UA/CO/AC/DL - Very low trans-border fares (NYC/ORD/CLE - Cda) from ~$60-70ai each way
Feb 1, 2012, 9:29 pm
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UA/CO/AC/DL - Very low trans-border fares (NYC/ORD/CLE - Cda) from ~$60-70ai each way
I was going to put this in the economy deals but thought it needed its own post as it isn't about just 1 fare (and some fares seem lower than the usual lows)
..first there's the typical weekend specials ord/cle - canada and vice versa from the low $200'sai round trip..now AC is usually nicer than the rest, allowing 1 ways and they have 50% off (also nothing unordinary) til feb 3.. so for example the next several days ord-yyz can be $60-70ai (a bit more the other way) - AA's in on this fare as well
.. then there's the super low nyc-yyz/yow/yul fares ($49-57++ each way) which look like a response (and nice welcome) to westjet launching lga service (as the fares run jun 4 - aug 29 - 21day ap)
now DL either forgot when the rest of the carriers are offering this fare, or maybe wanted a nice head start as jfk-yyz is availabe most days now-aug 29 (same 21day ap) for $70ai..I gotta think that's close to the low for this route (without any 50% promo code marketing anyway)
also, most of the routing rules allow 2-4 transfer's (I saw DL through atl/msp and a 2nd stop)..if you can somehow get 4 segments, that's also not bad @ $15-20/seg
maybe it's a match with greyhound/megabus..
..first there's the typical weekend specials ord/cle - canada and vice versa from the low $200'sai round trip..now AC is usually nicer than the rest, allowing 1 ways and they have 50% off (also nothing unordinary) til feb 3.. so for example the next several days ord-yyz can be $60-70ai (a bit more the other way) - AA's in on this fare as well
.. then there's the super low nyc-yyz/yow/yul fares ($49-57++ each way) which look like a response (and nice welcome) to westjet launching lga service (as the fares run jun 4 - aug 29 - 21day ap)
now DL either forgot when the rest of the carriers are offering this fare, or maybe wanted a nice head start as jfk-yyz is availabe most days now-aug 29 (same 21day ap) for $70ai..I gotta think that's close to the low for this route (without any 50% promo code marketing anyway)
also, most of the routing rules allow 2-4 transfer's (I saw DL through atl/msp and a 2nd stop)..if you can somehow get 4 segments, that's also not bad @ $15-20/seg
maybe it's a match with greyhound/megabus..
Feb 1, 2012, 10:43 pm
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It would be good to get more clarification, but I don't even bother to look at published cross-border fares. For the shorter haul markets, it's 4500 BA miles each way on AA. And there's usually good availability. It would literally take "the sale of a lifetime" to be competitive with that.
Feb 1, 2012, 10:47 pm
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$70 when you get miles and upgrade is better then 4500 avios
It would be good to get more clarification, but I don't even bother to look at published cross-border fares. For the shorter haul markets, it's 4500 BA miles each way on AA. And there's usually good availability. It would literally take "the sale of a lifetime" to be competitive with that.
Feb 2, 2012, 7:43 am
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Feb 2, 2012, 8:20 am
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Feb 2, 2012, 8:23 am
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Feb 2, 2012, 8:28 am
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It would be good to get more clarification, but I don't even bother to look at published cross-border fares. For the shorter haul markets, it's 4500 BA miles each way on AA. And there's usually good availability. It would literally take "the sale of a lifetime" to be competitive with that.
Feb 2, 2012, 8:48 am
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The new BA Avios 4500 mile short haul award is a great perk in the new program. I used it to book a flight to Halifax that was well over $500. And if you have AMEX MR points, they often offer transfer bonuses that gets the "real" mileage cost down even further.
But what are the actual fares in THIS deal? Are there roundtrips under $200?
But what are the actual fares in THIS deal? Are there roundtrips under $200?
Feb 2, 2012, 9:02 am
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exactly...
the purpose of me posting these wasn't so much for a MR as it was for folks who either need to commute between these markets (sans avios) or leisure travel and bank a few eqm/rdm at the same time... also, not that I'm condoning or advocating this, but as I mentioned some of the fares allow more distant "connections" where fares can sometimes be higher
if you don't have avios, and need to drop some dojo either way, I really doubt it'll get much lower than it is... besides if you did credit to avios and have status you could bank a free trip for later and then some on top of some meager eqm/tp
~4-5 cpm aint great but these fares aren't like the domestic shorthauls where you can fly for ~$30
the purpose of me posting these wasn't so much for a MR as it was for folks who either need to commute between these markets (sans avios) or leisure travel and bank a few eqm/rdm at the same time... also, not that I'm condoning or advocating this, but as I mentioned some of the fares allow more distant "connections" where fares can sometimes be higher
if you don't have avios, and need to drop some dojo either way, I really doubt it'll get much lower than it is... besides if you did credit to avios and have status you could bank a free trip for later and then some on top of some meager eqm/tp
~4-5 cpm aint great but these fares aren't like the domestic shorthauls where you can fly for ~$30
Feb 2, 2012, 12:14 pm
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Is BA still (improperly) charging the U.S. international arrival/departure tax -- ~ $16.00 each way -- on these no-fuel-surcharge redemptions? (The U.S. tax is not supposed to be charge on "free" tickets.)
Originally Posted by iahphx
The new BA Avios 4500 mile short haul award is a great perk in the new program. I used it to book a flight to Halifax that was well over $500. And if you have AMEX MR points, they often offer transfer bonuses that gets the "real" mileage cost down even further.
But what are the actual fares in THIS deal? Are there roundtrips under $200?
But what are the actual fares in THIS deal? Are there roundtrips under $200?
Feb 2, 2012, 12:53 pm
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Is BA still (improperly) charging the U.S. international arrival/departure tax -- ~ $16.00 each way -- on these no-fuel-surcharge redemptions? (The U.S. tax is not supposed to be charge on "free" tickets.)
Is BA still (improperly) charging the U.S. international arrival/departure tax -- ~ $16.00 each way -- on these no-fuel-surcharge redemptions? (The U.S. tax is not supposed to be charge on "free" tickets.)