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None of this surprises me in the slightest. The platform to mezzanine escalator at the Monroe Red Line station was "temporarily" out of service for almost four months last year, after which it worked for another 2 months before breaking again. CTA needs better techs.
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Originally Posted by linglingfool
(Post 24812193)
None of this surprises me in the slightest. The platform to mezzanine escalator at the Monroe Red Line station was "temporarily" out of service for almost four months last year, after which it worked for another 2 months before breaking again. CTA needs better techs.
However, in this case the escalator in question no longer exists. Nothing to repair by the CTA or anyone else. |
They need to replace it ASAP.
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New aviation commissioner says high-speed rail from ORD to Loop is a top priority:
http://chicago.suntimes.com/chicago-...infrastructure |
Originally Posted by BearX220
(Post 24990749)
New aviation commissioner says high-speed rail from ORD to Loop is a top priority:
http://chicago.suntimes.com/chicago-...infrastructure The new train from YYZ to the city of Toronto is great. Totally worth the $20-27 they charge, even if bus+subway is available for ~$5 or so. Compared to the 45-minute, $7 Blue Line ride, a $20-25 fare on a train that gets to d/t in 15-20 minutes - IMHO - would be reasonable. But first, of course, they would have to figure out how to stop high-speed trains without using escalators. :D |
Originally Posted by legalalien
(Post 24995771)
Lots of good intentions in the article...but we all know what road is paved with good intentions. I hope she can deliver.
The new train from YYZ to the city of Toronto is great. Totally worth the $20-27 they charge, even if bus+subway is available for ~$5 or so. Compared to the 45-minute, $7 Blue Line ride, a $20-25 fare on a train that gets to d/t in 15-20 minutes - IMHO - would be reasonable. But first, of course, they would have to figure out how to stop high-speed trains without using escalators. :D Extending the ATS to the O'Hare Metra station is also an option, but given the roundabout route the NCS takes to get to the airport, I don't think that would be any faster than the L. |
Originally Posted by linglingfool
(Post 24996286)
Extending the ATS to the O'Hare Metra station is also an option, but given the roundabout route the NCS takes to get to the airport, I don't think that would be any faster than the L.
The other thing on this is, think big. If they're going to NCS tracks, then build some new trackage directly into the airport, don't use the slow ATS. I think ATS is going to get extended over there anyway at some point with the rental car facility. |
Originally Posted by glg
(Post 24996670)
The NCS' route isn't roundabout, it just is different from the Blue Line. NCS goes mostly W then cuts NW, Blue line NW then W. The NCS route isn't the problem. AFAIK, the problem with NCS is freight. The tracks it runs on are too congested to run airport trains all day.
The other thing on this is, think big. If they're going to NCS tracks, then build some new trackage directly into the airport, don't use the slow ATS. I think ATS is going to get extended over there anyway at some point with the rental car facility. |
30 min is not competitive enough. I think it really needs to be 20 min or so to command a fare premium over Blue Line. Including ATS in the picture also hurts: switching trains with luggage is a hassle, unless it can be done on the same platform.
So yeah, while it's a "priority", it may not be a "reality". :( |
Originally Posted by BearX220
(Post 24990749)
New aviation commissioner says high-speed rail from ORD to Loop is a top priority:
http://chicago.suntimes.com/chicago-...infrastructure A high-speed train to ORD would take 50 years. And tens of billions probably. And a thousand lawsuits. |
Originally Posted by legalalien
(Post 24998699)
30 min is not competitive enough. I think it really needs to be 20 min or so to command a fare premium over Blue Line.
I think about the Heathrow Express nonstop train from LHR to London (£20 or 25 one-way) versus the Heathrow Connect somewhat slower stopping service (£10 one way) versus the Piccadilly Line (£3.90 without Oyster), and there's an option for everyone -- although the HeX fare is pretty ridiculous and drops you in Paddington, not central London; the equivalent in Chicago might be getting dropped at Wrigley Field. But the former two (HeX and Connect) were put in service on existing trunk rights of way, not carved out of the landscape fresh. The cost of the latter would have been prohibitive I think. I can't imagine how this scheme might work in Chicago. |
Originally Posted by toomanybooks
(Post 25000315)
They couldn't even fix the Dan Ryan for 10 years or put in an escalator at ORD for how long is it now?
A high-speed train to ORD would take 50 years. And tens of billions probably. And a thousand lawsuits. |
Originally Posted by BearX220
(Post 25001030)
But the former two (HeX and Connect) were put in service on existing trunk rights of way, not carved out of the landscape fresh. The cost of the latter would have been prohibitive I think. I can't imagine how this scheme might work in Chicago.
I just don't see the huge need. Yeah, some cities have an express train, but many others don't have a train from the airport to the city center at all. Take NYC, it's impossible (LGA) or a hassle (EWR with the ATS-like connection to the train or JFK with the airtrain to get to the subway) to get to Manhattan via train. ORD and MDW both have L stations connected to the terminal (yeah, yeah, ATS from T5) |
Some cities are able to offer a variety of options because they built enough tracks when it was still possible. In Chicago that battle was lost long ago when the original plan decided against express tracks. It is very difficult to undo such decisions and to special-case everything.
Nevertheless, if there is ever a special case, the airport certainly is. And no I dont think NYC's airport connectivity is role model for any other city. :) I would like to see a circular track: O'Hare to Midway to Downtown to Ohare. When I say downtown, that station can anywhere within a few miles as long as it is well connected to other lines. Another intriguing idea is to put a hub somewhere in the west and connect ORD, MDW and downtown to it. Well those are my castles in the air. For something more do-able: Can't Blue Line have coaches which have well designed luggage holds? |
Originally Posted by aktchi
(Post 25003892)
Can't Blue Line have coaches which have well designed luggage holds?
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