Which US Passport should I enter Israel with?
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2- like Ditto said, I havent the slightest idea what to advise and only those who work in the security area can offer any opinion that may be reasonable to adhere to.
That said although they probably have it all recorded 1 way or another, if it was me Id have it handy but not out in the open. Reason they may want to see where Ive been since I was last there and if PP1 was used by not having it they wont know and extremely good reason to deny me entry and send me right back to where I just arrived from
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1- that shouldnt matter , unless you plan to go to mostly non-Israeli areas, I have a bunch of friends who have flown over this week for vacation
2- like Ditto said, I havent the slightest idea what to advise and only those who work in the security area can offer any opinion that may be reasonable to adhere to.
That said although they probably have it all recorded 1 way or another, if it was me Id have it handy but not out in the open. Reason they may want to see where Ive been since I was last there and if PP1 was used by not having it they wont know and extremely good reason to deny me entry and send me right back to where I just arrived from
2- like Ditto said, I havent the slightest idea what to advise and only those who work in the security area can offer any opinion that may be reasonable to adhere to.
That said although they probably have it all recorded 1 way or another, if it was me Id have it handy but not out in the open. Reason they may want to see where Ive been since I was last there and if PP1 was used by not having it they wont know and extremely good reason to deny me entry and send me right back to where I just arrived from
Appreciate the insight.
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Now just cause you were able to fly there doesnt mean you will be allowed in. Simple your PP and info cleared but when they run them in TLV the red flag pops up. People have been denied at point of departure as well as upon arrival to TLV, no different then folks flying to The US or elsewhere.Ive been on numerous flights where CBP is escorting a just arrived passenger onto the flight right back from where they came
I would 100% take PP1 with me if I was you and Id venture to say your being allowed entry will probably depend on the facts of the streets that day ,the past few days and what they think it will be like the next few days
fwiw its " non-Israeli" and not "non-israeli" ^
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with that info Id say they have your number and expect a lengthy time when arriving and maybe departing. The only thing I cant answer is if they have you on their do not allow in list, usually if yes you will be denied boarding before the flight to TLV takes off = you are flying say BA to LHR and then on a different tkt to TLV. So denial will be @ LHR. Going JFK-TLV say on DL denial will be @ JFK.
Now just cause you were able to fly there doesnt mean you will be allowed in. Simple your PP and info cleared but when they run them in TLV the red flag pops up. People have been denied at point of departure as well as upon arrival to TLV, no different then folks flying to The US or elsewhere.Ive been on numerous flights where CBP is escorting a just arrived passenger onto the flight right back from where they came
I would 100% take PP1 with me if I was you and Id venture to say your being allowed entry will probably depend on the facts of the streets that day ,the past few days and what they think it will be like the next few days
fwiw its " non-Israeli" and not "non-israeli" ^
Now just cause you were able to fly there doesnt mean you will be allowed in. Simple your PP and info cleared but when they run them in TLV the red flag pops up. People have been denied at point of departure as well as upon arrival to TLV, no different then folks flying to The US or elsewhere.Ive been on numerous flights where CBP is escorting a just arrived passenger onto the flight right back from where they came
I would 100% take PP1 with me if I was you and Id venture to say your being allowed entry will probably depend on the facts of the streets that day ,the past few days and what they think it will be like the next few days
fwiw its " non-Israeli" and not "non-israeli" ^
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I was issued another US passport because of all the traveling I do. I have an upcoming trip to Tel Aviv next week. I have been there on Passport 1 (I got the yellow sticker on the back, but no stamps). Passport 1 however has travel to other Middle Eastern and South Asian countries. Last time I went, I was held for almost 4 hours.
Passport 2 is virtually untouched, except for one or two European stamps.
Which would be best?
Passport 2 is virtually untouched, except for one or two European stamps.
Which would be best?
Actually my blank passport -- combined with my truthful answers to the agent's questions about where I worked (the Gulf), what I was doing (vacation), and where I was traveling (DXB via AMM) -- got me a lot of scrutiny and the full back-room almost-strip-search treatment upon departure. They didn't ask whether I had a second passport; if I input any information when booking my flight, I entered the passport on which I was traveling and not the old one.
Obviously I don't know what triggered it, but it could have been that the blank passport was more suspicious than the full one. It was my first trip to Israel.
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which to an extent is the key. Now if you go back say with PP3 cause PP1 & PP2 have all the stamps etc in them, they may want to know where PP2 is and why you arent using it (lets say PP1 is CXed) so PP2 is now PP1 and PP3 is new
everything can be 1000% legit Im just saying what may send up a red flag and get a person some private time in the back rooms. if you tell them the old PP2 now PP1 is CXed and when they check they see its still valid and usable, you are in for a long haul as to why you are using PP3 now PP2
can they be out smarted maybe nothing is fail proof people can lie and beat a lie detector if they are good enough. Id say you have better odds at being the sole winner tonight of the $700M lottery thou
everything can be 1000% legit Im just saying what may send up a red flag and get a person some private time in the back rooms. if you tell them the old PP2 now PP1 is CXed and when they check they see its still valid and usable, you are in for a long haul as to why you are using PP3 now PP2
can they be out smarted maybe nothing is fail proof people can lie and beat a lie detector if they are good enough. Id say you have better odds at being the sole winner tonight of the $700M lottery thou
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I was issued another US passport because of all the traveling I do. I have an upcoming trip to Tel Aviv next week. I have been there on Passport 1 (I got the yellow sticker on the back, but no stamps). Passport 1 however has travel to other Middle Eastern and South Asian countries. Last time I went, I was held for almost 4 hours.
Passport 2 is virtually untouched, except for one or two European stamps.
Which would be best?
Passport 2 is virtually untouched, except for one or two European stamps.
Which would be best?
#23
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It is important to acknowledge that Israeli security is very good. That being said, everything written is conjecture. No one knows, for sure, why someone is stopped, why someone else isn't, why someone gets loads of questions one time and nothing the next. The ability to,keep what makes them tick,a secret, co tributes to their efficiency.
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It is important to acknowledge that Israeli security is very good. That being said, everything written is conjecture. No one knows, for sure, why someone is stopped, why someone else isn't, why someone gets loads of questions one time and nothing the next. The ability to,keep what makes them tick,a secret, co tributes to their efficiency.
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It is important to acknowledge that Israeli security is very good. That being said, everything written is conjecture. No one knows, for sure, why someone is stopped, why someone else isn't, why someone gets loads of questions one time and nothing the next. The ability to,keep what makes them tick,a secret, co tributes to their efficiency.