DCA logistics
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An hour and 45 minutes before the flight to depart downtown DC? A lot of people would argue that's too much time.
Metro will take at worst, 25 minutes. It's rush-hour, so you are unlikely to wait for a train more than 5-6 minutes.
TSA precheck is highly unlikely to take more than 10 minutes.
Assume 10 minutes to walk from metro to security and 3 minutes from security to the gate - you are likely to be at your gate in 45 - 50 minutes.
Metro will take at worst, 25 minutes. It's rush-hour, so you are unlikely to wait for a train more than 5-6 minutes.
TSA precheck is highly unlikely to take more than 10 minutes.
Assume 10 minutes to walk from metro to security and 3 minutes from security to the gate - you are likely to be at your gate in 45 - 50 minutes.
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As a daily commuter, I thoroughly believe that there is no such thing as "at worst" when it comes to Metro.
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That's using two of the very-few beyond-perimeter slots. Mostly no service to the western US, and certainly not direct.
- Austin
- Denver
- Las Vegas
- Los Angeles
- Phoenix
- Salt Lake City
- San Francisco
- San Juan
- Seattle and
- Portland, Ore.
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Yeah, OP wants to go to EWR and all he asked is whether he could make his flight if he left the NPC at 5 PM.
For what it's worth, relying on Metro during Safe Track is a mistake. That is particularly true if you consider that UberX will run about $12, maybe $15 with a bit of surge pricing at that time of day.
For what it's worth, relying on Metro during Safe Track is a mistake. That is particularly true if you consider that UberX will run about $12, maybe $15 with a bit of surge pricing at that time of day.
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Uber/Lyft/Taxi are fine normally. But I've had times using them to get to DCA where either traffic or a bad driver took a good bit longer than normal to get there. So as long as it's not the end of the world if you miss your flight, then relax and don't worry about it.
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Sad how every DCA thread these days seems to come back to the Perimeter Rule and how everyone wants flights to the west coast but Congress won't let us have them
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Actually 3 pairs to/from LAX (AA has 2, AS 1). Full list here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ronald...r_restrictions
Sad how every DCA thread these days seems to come back to the Perimeter Rule and how everyone wants flights to the west coast but Congress won't let us have them
Sad how every DCA thread these days seems to come back to the Perimeter Rule and how everyone wants flights to the west coast but Congress won't let us have them

It is quite easy to fly to the left coast - just fly from IAD which is barely 30 miles west.
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There's nothing 'easy' about flying out of IAD.
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While I agree it is disingenuous to tell people in the District to just drive out to IAD, as someone who has a base close to IAD I have to say it is a very easy airport. From leaving Reston I am past security and heading to the gate in less than 20 minutes, counting car rental return. PreCheck is always open and never a line more than a few minutes.
Anyhow, it's clearly been posted now that there are flights from DCA to the west coast. You don't have to drive out to IAD, unless you want to go to Europe or certain destinations south of the border.
Anyhow, it's clearly been posted now that there are flights from DCA to the west coast. You don't have to drive out to IAD, unless you want to go to Europe or certain destinations south of the border.
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It continues to drive pax to IAD and is why it will stay. Enplanements are growing very well at DCA and not growing well at IAD; removing the rule will result in less pax at IAD which means the cost of flying out of IAD will increase, decreasing the number of pax, increasing cost, etc., etc.
It doesn't "protect" any congress critter's district even though it does make it easier for (some) critters to slither back and forth from whence they came.
In addition, allowing longer flights would result in many more flights using larger (73x, 319, 320) aircraft that are significantly louder than the regional jets/turbo-props. This will make the locals (who knowingly purchased/rented homes next to an airport or in the flight path) even more upset about the noise.
Sure there are things that could make IAD more convenient, but it really isn't that bad. Complain to the public officials that refused to allow Metro to be underground and in the terminal....
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It continues to drive pax to IAD and is why it will stay. Enplanements are growing very well at DCA and not growing well at IAD; removing the rule will result in less pax at IAD which means the cost of flying out of IAD will increase, decreasing the number of pax, increasing cost, etc., etc.
In addition, allowing longer flights would result in many more flights using larger (73x, 319, 320) aircraft that are significantly louder than the regional jets/turbo-props. This will make the locals (who knowingly purchased/rented homes next to an airport or in the flight path) even more upset about the noise.

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The only valid justification for the Perimeter Rule is protecting United's domestic feeder traffic and what it would mean to international non-stop destinations and the impact to the DC region if they pulled out of IAD. I get that, but damn I'd like to be able go SAN-DCA nonstop again
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Well duh. DCA is in a large city. IAD is out in the country. And everyone out here does use IAD. It doesn't make any sense to drive in to DCA if you live near IAD. But you said there is nothing easy about flying out of IAD. That's not at all true. I use both airports and there is nothing about IAD that makes it harder than DCA, assuming you are arriving by car. And on the inside IAD is much more pleasant in most areas, especially terminal B which is new with lots of space. DCA has small crowded corridors. That said, I will always use DCA if I happen to be in the District and flying domestically.


