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The Future of Dulles Airport [and Metro line]

The Future of Dulles Airport [and Metro line]

Old Aug 21, 19, 12:40 pm
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Originally Posted by IADCAflyer View Post
I would bet 55-60 minutes. Its 46 from Wiehle.
That's a good estimate.

The final EIS shows a travel time of 43 minutes from Rosslyn to the airport; 60 minutes from Metro Center to the Route 606 station (now Loudoun Gateway - one stop past the airport).
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Old Aug 25, 19, 10:54 am
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Originally Posted by IADCAflyer View Post
I would bet 55-60 minutes. Its 46 from Wiehle.
I'd say that's pretty close. I live near Courthouse and work at L'Enfant plaza. It's about 15 minutes on the metro for me.

I feel like an hour isn't really that bad considering. I drove from my apartment to Ashburn during the middle of the morning (with very little traffic) and it took me a solid 45+ minutes. I have a feeling driving to Dulles at rush hour would be twice as long of more. I'd MUCH rather ride a train for an hour that sit in bumper to bumper traffic for an hour. FWIW I lived in downtown Chicago for a while and the blue line to ORD was about 30-45 minutes.


While I'm at it... How long does the current Train/Bus combo take to get to IAD?
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Old Aug 26, 19, 8:25 pm
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Originally Posted by FlyingLaw View Post
While I'm at it... How long does the current Train/Bus combo take to get to IAD?
The best I've done is 52 minutes from my house to IAD, counting a 10-minute walk to the Clarendon Metro, the 27-ish minute ride from there to the Wiehle-Reston East station, and then booking it from the train to the Silver Line Express bus and its 10-minute ride to Dulles. An hour is more typical. In your case, add two minutes for Metro travel time to Clarendon and adjust walk-to-Metro time as needed.

That bus runs every 20 minutes except for 6-9 a.m. and 3-7 p.m. weekdays, so most of the time you want to get on a train that will arrive at Wiehle at 15, 35, or 55 minutes after the hour. The MetroHero app is essential for that, since it pulls train position, speed and ETA data from WMATA's proprietary API; you can check that from home, then leave so you only wait a minute in the station and then can walk at a normal pace from Wiehle over to the bus platform, on the lowest level of the parking structure there.

Having the Silver Line open all the way to IAD will eliminate that transfer uncertainty, not to mention the $5 Silver Line Express fare that you can't put on a Metro SmarTrip card. The final environmental-impact statement estimates travel time from Rosslyn to IAD at 43 minutes, while today Rosslyn to Wiehle is a 32-minute ride, so add 11 minutes to your current ride to Wiehle.
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Old Aug 27, 19, 3:14 pm
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Originally Posted by DCA writer View Post
The best I've done is 52 minutes from my house to IAD, counting a 10-minute walk to the Clarendon Metro, the 27-ish minute ride from there to the Wiehle-Reston East station, and then booking it from the train to the Silver Line Express bus and its 10-minute ride to Dulles. An hour is more typical. In your case, add two minutes for Metro travel time to Clarendon and adjust walk-to-Metro time as needed.

That bus runs every 20 minutes except for 6-9 a.m. and 3-7 p.m. weekdays, so most of the time you want to get on a train that will arrive at Wiehle at 15, 35, or 55 minutes after the hour. The MetroHero app is essential for that, since it pulls train position, speed and ETA data from WMATA's proprietary API; you can check that from home, then leave so you only wait a minute in the station and then can walk at a normal pace from Wiehle over to the bus platform, on the lowest level of the parking structure there.

Having the Silver Line open all the way to IAD will eliminate that transfer uncertainty, not to mention the $5 Silver Line Express fare that you can't put on a Metro SmarTrip card. The final environmental-impact statement estimates travel time from Rosslyn to IAD at 43 minutes, while today Rosslyn to Wiehle is a 32-minute ride, so add 11 minutes to your current ride to Wiehle.
Thanks a ton! Great post! I'm hoping I can do most of my travel out of DCA... but I'm sure I'll have to go in and out of IAD periodically for one reason or another. Also... Thanks for the heads up on the MetroHero app!!!
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Old Sep 2, 19, 9:41 pm
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Originally Posted by dhuey View Post
Any estimates on how long it will take to go from Dulles to L'Enfant Plaza once this is complete?
my guess...about an hr with no random train stops. What I donít know is how close metro will be to baggage claim area.

i currently live in Alexandria and have gone to Dulles. The bus is 15 min. Metro likely 20 to Reston.




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Old Sep 2, 19, 9:56 pm
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Originally Posted by dhuey View Post
Yeah, I get it. Your Metro is very similar to our Bay Area Rapid Transit (BART). It's something of a hybrid of an urban subway system and regional train lines. Not designed to include express trains.
its just about identical..same design company. The difference is in the modernization of systems.

BART has gone out farther into the suburbs. DC metro has more commuter trains from farther out areas.

on VA side you have commuter trains from Fredericksburg and manassas. Fredericksburg is same distance as San Jose. On Maryland..there are 2 train lines parallel 95 to Baltimore. And another thst run from martinsburg, WV to Frederick to DC and this has 2 different routes. Martinsburg is about the same as Sacramento in distance

in the future another line is going to open that is the first suburb to suburb line in Maryland outside the beltway.

the area seemed to not do a good job of long term planning. Had theyfrom the start they could have built lines to reach 10 miles outside the beltway. Now itís very cost prohibitive to do this.
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Old Sep 7, 19, 4:28 am
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Not so good news In the Washington Post yesterday - is this turning into a Silver Springs?
In management alerts issued Friday, Metro Inspector General Geoffrey A. Cherrington said a sealant being applied to prevent water from seeping into hundreds of defective concrete panels may not be working. A sampling of sealant already in place found it was not working in all cases, leaving some panels vulnerable to cracking. Unless the panels are replaced or the contractor comes up with another solution, Metro should not accept the work, he advised.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/local...003_story.html
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Old Sep 15, 19, 8:54 am
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its just about identical..same design company. The difference is in the modernization of systems.


The two systems are far from identical. Track gauge different, car length different, maximum train length different, signaling and train control different, third rail voltage different, performance profiles different.

Yes a number of contractors from engineering to construction to rolling stock worked on both but the basic specifications they designed and built to were different.

in the future another line is going to open that is the first suburb to suburb line in Maryland outside the beltway.

Light rail; design, build, operate franchise contract with the Maryland Transit Administration. Not part of Metrorail.

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Old Nov 24, 19, 1:02 pm
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Metro to IAD by September 2020, perhaps

The Post, WTOP and WAMU all have WMATA saying Phase 2 of the Silver Line to IAD and beyond can open in September 2020, while the latter two report MWAA says it will reach substantial completion in April, allowing for a July opening. The major variable left is whether Metro will accept Phase 2 contractor Capital Rail Constructors' proposed long-term maintenance remedy for the flawed precast concrete panels at some of the stations--reapplying a protective sealant every five to seven years--or insist on having them replaced. Metro is awaiting a report from its inspector general about that.

(Background reading: presentations from MWAA and Capital Rail Constructors from the airport authority's Nov. 20 board meeting, plus one from WMATA from its Nov. 21 board meeting.)

What I don't know is how long that replacement might take. I feel dirty playing armchair civil engineer, but if WMATA could rebuild entire platforms on the Blue/Yellow line this summer in three months and change, why not get this over with now, when there's no service to disrupt? But the better question might be, why didn't MWAA insist on having those panels replaced when they started discovering this problem two years ago?
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Old Mar 24, 20, 12:17 pm
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Wiehle tie-in: How the Silver Line got held up . . .
Max Smith
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03 23 2020 15:50 EDT

. . . Or how bean counter got in the way of engineers trying to do their jobs.
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