Merger Status Downgrades
#17
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Changing status and adding nights is literally two clicks and costs Marriott nothing because that's what the customer earned.
Its clear Marriott is just being as cheap as it possibly can in regards to every issue under the sun (even if that means screwing over people)
I've had four week non replies / completely incorrect replies. Its like talking to a wall. If Marriott don't have the power to do anything and the instructions given are to be as vile and restrictive to customers as possible why even have a phone line or email?
Its clear Marriott is just being as cheap as it possibly can in regards to every issue under the sun (even if that means screwing over people)
I've had four week non replies / completely incorrect replies. Its like talking to a wall. If Marriott don't have the power to do anything and the instructions given are to be as vile and restrictive to customers as possible why even have a phone line or email?
But effectively there's no phone line or email service at this point.
#18
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: DEN
Programs: Hyatt Globalist, Bonvoy Titanium, CX DM, SQ Gold
Posts: 1,607
Our very sincere apologies for the inconvenience, but the answers reflect the reality of some of the issues we've been sent. Believe me, if we could make a couple of mouse-clicks and fix something, we certainly would. So, it is very much about inability in some situations, but nothing to do with unwillingness. If you've contacted us and we told you that we need to wait for the IT team to fix something, then you have been logged on our escalation sheet and the IT team has been made aware. There's just nothing more we can do until we are told the issue has been fixed.
Best regards,
William R. Sanders
Social Media Specialist
Marriott International
[email protected]
Best regards,
William R. Sanders
Social Media Specialist
Marriott International
[email protected]
#20
Join Date: Dec 2015
Posts: 278
Well I am a software engineer in IT and I am 100% sure with any competence on Marriotts side this is true. They have a demonstrated ability to add points and nights as well as alter status at their discretion. They also have the ability to grant status until a certain date. This is all doable with a couple clicks.
The only reason this is not being handled is due to greed (err to the side of not giving). This data is literally all stored in a database and a single command can add deserved elite years to a member.
If its not doable (which it is because theyve shown they can change status at their discretion), the entire IT team should be fired
This is greed and lack of customer care, plain and simple.
The only reason this is not being handled is due to greed (err to the side of not giving). This data is literally all stored in a database and a single command can add deserved elite years to a member.
If its not doable (which it is because theyve shown they can change status at their discretion), the entire IT team should be fired
This is greed and lack of customer care, plain and simple.
Last edited by mingzie; Sep 24, 2018 at 9:04 pm
#21
Well I am a software engineer in IT and I am 100% sure with any competence on Marriotts side this is true. They have a demonstrated ability to add points and nights as well as alter status at their discretion. They also have the ability to grant status until a certain date. This is all doable with a couple clicks.
The only reason this is not being handled is due to greed (err to the side of not giving). This data is literally all stored in a database and a single command can add deserved elite years to a member.
If its not doable (which it is because theyve shown they can change status at their discretion), the entire IT team should be fired
This is greed and lack of customer care, plain and simple.
The only reason this is not being handled is due to greed (err to the side of not giving). This data is literally all stored in a database and a single command can add deserved elite years to a member.
If its not doable (which it is because theyve shown they can change status at their discretion), the entire IT team should be fired
This is greed and lack of customer care, plain and simple.
#22
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I actually think Marriott has now sunk below Comcast and Verizon for poor customer service. And you really can't get any lower on my list than that.
#23
Join Date: Dec 2015
Posts: 278
Also, you said 'not even in IT' as if it was a complicated IT issue despite evidence that a hotel can simply say 'give this person plat' in a minute flat.
#24
Join Date: Jul 2005
Posts: 1,074
A big part of the problem here is that Marriott has deliberately not empowered front line cs personnel to fix problems. This virtually guarantees thousands of angry customers.
I actually think Marriott has now sunk below Comcast and Verizon for poor customer service. And you really can't get any lower on my list than that.
I actually think Marriott has now sunk below Comcast and Verizon for poor customer service. And you really can't get any lower on my list than that.
#25
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Join Date: Nov 2000
Location: Austin, Texas
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I was not told anything about any action taken. The question was simply ignored. My 2018 status was correct once I merged but bumped down a level 3 days later. Since then it is a level below what I was told in https://members.marriott.com/faq/#wh...s-be-in-august and there is nobody explaining it to me despite several requests.
Best regards,
William R. Sanders
Social Media Specialist
Marriott International
[email protected]
#26
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: DEN
Programs: Hyatt Globalist, Bonvoy Titanium, CX DM, SQ Gold
Posts: 1,607
Can you give a few more details on this? What level did you have when you merged accounts and what level did you go down to three days later? What level are you expecting to be at this point in time?
Best regards,
William R. Sanders
Social Media Specialist
Marriott International
[email protected]
Best regards,
William R. Sanders
Social Media Specialist
Marriott International
[email protected]
The conversion chart they published before the merge seemed to suggest that I should be Platinum Premier Elite for the rest of this year.
#27
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Join Date: Sep 2018
Programs: Marriott
Posts: 3
Hi All,
I've never posted before but a regular reader. Anyway, I've been downgraded post merger from Gold in Marriott Rewards to Gold in the new system when I was expecting Platinum. i.e. the website says Marriott Rewards Gold = Platinum post merger
I've got 660+ nights combined and 8 years at Platinum (MR Gold), so they are telling me I'm two years short of Lifetime Platinum.
I wasn't traveling as much as normal last year so didn't quite hit 50 nights. (I became a Dad with my first child...)
In March they offered me a status challenge for MR Gold (I highly value having the lounge to work in) which I duly completed with a couple of heavy months travel.
Customer Service are telling me since I am less than 50 nights this year and 2 years short of Platinum Lifetime, then I am not eligible for Platinum
The challenge I completed only a few months ago is now irrelevant and they will not honour it.
Anyone else been short changed like this post Merger? Feels very petty and not honouring all the promises given during the merger transition.
I am considering my options as the Customer Service is pretty terrible (takes weeks and chasing to respond) and I have no confidence they will honour future promotions if they change their mind and remove previous deals when they feel like it.
I've never posted before but a regular reader. Anyway, I've been downgraded post merger from Gold in Marriott Rewards to Gold in the new system when I was expecting Platinum. i.e. the website says Marriott Rewards Gold = Platinum post merger
I've got 660+ nights combined and 8 years at Platinum (MR Gold), so they are telling me I'm two years short of Lifetime Platinum.
I wasn't traveling as much as normal last year so didn't quite hit 50 nights. (I became a Dad with my first child...)
In March they offered me a status challenge for MR Gold (I highly value having the lounge to work in) which I duly completed with a couple of heavy months travel.
Customer Service are telling me since I am less than 50 nights this year and 2 years short of Platinum Lifetime, then I am not eligible for Platinum
The challenge I completed only a few months ago is now irrelevant and they will not honour it.
Anyone else been short changed like this post Merger? Feels very petty and not honouring all the promises given during the merger transition.
I am considering my options as the Customer Service is pretty terrible (takes weeks and chasing to respond) and I have no confidence they will honour future promotions if they change their mind and remove previous deals when they feel like it.
#28
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: DEN
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Posts: 1,607
Phone and email support were impossible. William and the rest of the Lurkers were the final thing I tried and they were the first to acknowledge there is an issue with my account and went and fixed it. All previous contacts resulted in FAQ copy/pastes, claiming I should be a lower status than I am, claiming nothing can be done etc.
Marriott need to get their customer care sorted out. With SPG the Lurker was your champion you would approach in the rare cases where normal support failed. Normal support was quite good so the lurker route was a last resort thing. Currently it seems the ONLY way to get actual support. Lurker's inbox volume must be nasty this month...