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Old Sep 22, 2018, 12:20 am
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Merger Status Downgrades

Hi All,

I've never posted before but a regular reader. Anyway, I've been downgraded post merger from Gold in Marriott Rewards to Gold in the new system when I was expecting Platinum. i.e. the website says Marriott Rewards Gold = Platinum post merger

I've got 660+ nights combined and 8 years at Platinum (MR Gold), so they are telling me I'm two years short of Lifetime Platinum.

I wasn't traveling as much as normal last year so didn't quite hit 50 nights. (I became a Dad with my first child...)

In March they offered me a status challenge for MR Gold (I highly value having the lounge to work in) which I duly completed with a couple of heavy months travel.

Customer Service are telling me since I am less than 50 nights this year and 2 years short of Platinum Lifetime, then I am not eligible for Platinum

The challenge I completed only a few months ago is now irrelevant and they will not honour it.

Anyone else been short changed like this post Merger? Feels very petty and not honouring all the promises given during the merger transition.

I am considering my options as the Customer Service is pretty terrible (takes weeks and chasing to respond) and I have no confidence they will honour future promotions if they change their mind and remove previous deals when they feel like it.
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Old Sep 22, 2018, 5:39 am
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https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/marr...merger-20.html

Most of the reports are people that were platinum pre-merger not being upgraded to PP. But pre-merger Gold not being upgraded to Platinum is a bigger issue.

The pre-merger communication was very clear that pre-merger MR-golds (other than from status matching) would become Platinum. I’d like to believe that who you talked to was just misinformed, but the longer this goes, the chances that this will be corrected seems less and less likely.
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Old Sep 22, 2018, 9:35 am
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My Gold got downgraded to new gold. Since then I've stayed exclusively at Hilton where I'm a Diamond Member. No looking back.
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Old Sep 22, 2018, 10:59 am
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send a PM to the SPG/MR folks here on the board. This sounds like one of the gazillion mapping errors. Should be solvable. MR Gold becomes Platinum.
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Old Sep 22, 2018, 11:10 am
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The people on the phone are unfortunately unable to change anything; at least I haven’t seen one report of a successful phone resolution.

There have been a few reports of people getting things like this addressed by visiting https://www.marriott.com/marriott/contact.mi and selecting “Marriott.com support” as your topic, so I suggest giving that a shot. The website is pretty clear, if you earned Gold not through an SPG status match, you should be Platinum now.
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Old Sep 22, 2018, 1:58 pm
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Originally Posted by cfischer
send a PM to the SPG/MR folks here on the board. This sounds like one of the gazillion mapping errors. Should be solvable. MR Gold becomes Platinum.
have more than a couple people actually “solved” it?
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Old Sep 23, 2018, 10:07 am
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Originally Posted by cfischer
send a PM to the SPG/MR folks here on the board.
Pointless. They can't/won't do anything.
Originally Posted by GoPhils
have more than a couple people actually “solved” it?
No one has "solved" it to my knowledge. Line cs can't/won't do anything other than offer one of three response - (1) "be patient, this is a known issue and Marriott is working on it," (2) "I opened a case, this should be resolved in x weeks," or "your status is correct, you have to earn Plat/Plat Premier on nights."
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Old Sep 23, 2018, 12:07 pm
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Originally Posted by Kacee
Pointless. They can't/won't do anything.
Completely false. The legacy Starwood Lurker team has solved hundreds/thousands of FT member issues over the years, and have addressed/corrected two for me personally in less than a month since the merger.

Originally Posted by Kacee
No one has "solved" it to my knowledge.
Correcting my status to the higher level that it should have been is one of my two issues "solved" after I contacted them.
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Old Sep 24, 2018, 12:01 am
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Originally Posted by CPRich
Completely false.
Um, not exactly. Here's the response I got:
Dear Carl,

Thank you for your message.

A small segment of members may still see an incorrect status in their member profiles. This is being corrected. You may check Marriott for the update of the merger.

If you need any further assistance, please let us know.

Best Regards,

Christina Zhou
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My follow up email to Christina advising that my status had still not been corrected and requesting further assistance was ignored.

So just color me skeptical at the Lurkers' ability/willingness to resolve incorrect status.
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Old Sep 24, 2018, 1:25 am
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Originally Posted by Kacee
Um, not exactly. Here's the response I got:

My follow up email to Christina advising that my status had still not been corrected and requesting further assistance was ignored.

So just color me skeptical at the Lurkers' ability/willingness to resolve incorrect status.
+1. The lurker I reached out to about the same issue sent me some copy pasta and ceased communication when I followed up seeking details on my status issues.
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Old Sep 24, 2018, 3:41 am
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Thanks cfischer, how do I find these folks?

Are they hanging out by the water cooler?
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Old Sep 24, 2018, 8:22 am
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Originally Posted by forumpersona999
+1. The lurker I reached out to about the same issue sent me some copy paste and ceased communication when I followed up seeking details on my status issues.
They've also totally bailed on responding to complaints from members whose status is not being recognized at check-in. Multiple threads on that, too.

https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/marr...-property.html

https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/marr...aded-gold.html

https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/marr...d-bangkok.html

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Old Sep 24, 2018, 10:14 am
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Originally Posted by Kacee
Um, not exactly. Here's the response I got:

My follow up email to Christina advising that my status had still not been corrected and requesting further assistance was ignored.

So just color me skeptical at the Lurkers' ability/willingness to resolve incorrect status.
Originally Posted by forumpersona999
+1. The lurker I reached out to about the same issue sent me some copy pasta and ceased communication when I followed up seeking details on my status issues.
Our very sincere apologies for the inconvenience, but the answers reflect the reality of some of the issues we've been sent. Believe me, if we could make a couple of mouse-clicks and fix something, we certainly would. So, it is very much about inability in some situations, but nothing to do with unwillingness. If you've contacted us and we told you that we need to wait for the IT team to fix something, then you have been logged on our escalation sheet and the IT team has been made aware. There's just nothing more we can do until we are told the issue has been fixed.

Best regards,

William R. Sanders
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Old Sep 24, 2018, 2:20 pm
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Originally Posted by Starwood Lurker
Our very sincere apologies for the inconvenience, but the answers reflect the reality of some of the issues we've been sent. Believe me, if we could make a couple of mouse-clicks and fix something, we certainly would. So, it is very much about inability in some situations, but nothing to do with unwillingness. If you've contacted us and we told you that we need to wait for the IT team to fix something, then you have been logged on our escalation sheet and the IT team has been made aware.
I appreciate your candid response, thank you.

I hope you can appreciate how frustrating it is to now be five weeks in, still showing wrong status, and the only response is "we're aware of the problem and you just need to be patient." I have very little faith in either the process or the program at this point.
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Old Sep 24, 2018, 5:37 pm
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Changing status and adding nights is literally two clicks and costs Marriott nothing because that's what the customer earned.

Its clear Marriott is just being as cheap as it possibly can in regards to every issue under the sun (even if that means screwing over people)
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I've had four week non replies / completely incorrect replies. Its like talking to a wall. If Marriott don't have the power to do anything and the instructions given are to be as vile and restrictive to customers as possible why even have a phone line or email?
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