No Blackout Date - test & result thread
Jan 15, 2009 | 8:55 am
#31
Join Date: Dec 2007
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Here is what I found:
Dublin area-7/24 to 7/31
Marriott Johnston House-NO AWARDS-but rooms for sale
Ashbourne Marriott-NO AWARDS-but rooms for sale!
It seems as if the hotels may have found a NEW way to get around the "regular room available". Yesterday, they were regular awards, with regular rooms.
Today...they are "free full irish breakfast" package!
Dublin area-7/24 to 7/31
Marriott Johnston House-NO AWARDS-but rooms for sale
Ashbourne Marriott-NO AWARDS-but rooms for sale!
It seems as if the hotels may have found a NEW way to get around the "regular room available". Yesterday, they were regular awards, with regular rooms.
Today...they are "free full irish breakfast" package!
Jan 15, 2009 | 10:00 am
#32
Join Date: Sep 2002
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Rome Flora
All my favorite hotels in Europe (including the Champs Elysees in Paris!) show wide open availability for a number of months between Feb and Sept. I don't have time to look at every possible date, but availability looks fairly decent from just a cursory glance.
And no more "STD" or "ANY" on the calendars - just "RWD".
Oh, and I dashed out side to check, and sure enough, the sky was still up there.
And no more "STD" or "ANY" on the calendars - just "RWD".
Oh, and I dashed out side to check, and sure enough, the sky was still up there.
Jan 15, 2009 | 10:02 am
#33
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Today I've just book 5 nights stay during Oct 21-26 at Courtyard Tokyo Ginza with 120,000 MR points. It has been decreased for 100,000 MR points from the stay-anytime award (I checked before Jan 15).
Jan 15, 2009 | 10:02 am
#34
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Don't shoot the messenger aka MC
however the spin Marriott is about to put on these will probably make us hurt ourselves laughing
however the spin Marriott is about to put on these will probably make us hurt ourselves laughing
Jan 15, 2009 | 10:08 am
#35
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IIRC, the Rome Flora is one of two or three hotels that are exempt from most requirements of Marriott Rewards. Don't use them as a benchmark.
Jan 15, 2009 | 10:34 am
#36
Join Date: Feb 2007
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I've been watching Hawaii opportunities prior to Jan 15th... (mainly Xmas week)
Waikoloa didn't have anything except stay anytime offered. Now it's opened at a higher point offering (I'm ok with that.. I've got a hopper certificate that I'll use if we go).
but the thing that surprises me is Marriott in Kauai standard room. Yesterday it was available as a stay anytime (a bit high for us) otherwise all other rooms had an upgrade attached for a plan ahead (either $$ or extra points. Presently there's no availability at Kauai but there is if we wanted to book a revenue ressie. Luckily I've got back up plans.
Will be interesting to watch.
Waikoloa didn't have anything except stay anytime offered. Now it's opened at a higher point offering (I'm ok with that.. I've got a hopper certificate that I'll use if we go).
but the thing that surprises me is Marriott in Kauai standard room. Yesterday it was available as a stay anytime (a bit high for us) otherwise all other rooms had an upgrade attached for a plan ahead (either $$ or extra points. Presently there's no availability at Kauai but there is if we wanted to book a revenue ressie. Luckily I've got back up plans.
Will be interesting to watch.
Jan 15, 2009 | 10:40 am
#37
Join Date: Feb 2007
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Waikiki
Before 1/15 it was coming up as a "pointsaver" ressie for almost all dates in '09 (including Xmas-NE). Now it's not.
Glad I made a ressie yesterday.. now to make sure the dates work.
Glad I made a ressie yesterday.. now to make sure the dates work.
Jan 15, 2009 | 11:11 am
#38
Join Date: Dec 2004
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Well... this is not one of your high volume tourist destinations, but I had been watching the Ren in Cleveland for next weekend for several months. For a long time NADA, recently "Stay Anytime" Today.... Standard reward. Grabbed it and cancelled the Ritz for the same weekend. (Ritz reviews for CLE are so so and the "points" diff didn't seem worth it!)
Jan 15, 2009 | 11:24 am
#39
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The new policy will not apply to extraordinary events like the upcoming inauguration. Most properties have sold out all their rooms (paid and award).
Jan 15, 2009 | 1:27 pm
#40
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They may have been exempt under the old system, not so under the new one. I just checked them for some dates in September, and although they have a standard Queen room available under a Corpoate rate, as well as some packages, they don't offer it for rewards. This is not some special event, either.
This stinks and MC should address this issue ASAP.
NJ
Jan 15, 2009 | 2:21 pm
#41
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Marriott Concierge confirmed this a while back. It is also well documented (see below) on Marrirott.com at this link: http://www.marriott.com/rewards/terms/usetrms.mi#hotel
The following properties do not fully participate in No Blackout Dates at this time:
- Rome Marriott Grand Hotel Flora, Rome, Italy
- Waikoloa Beach Marriott Resort & Spa
- Wailea Beach Marriott Resort & Spa, Hawaii
- Camelback Inn, A JW Marriott Resort and Spa, Scottsdale, AZ
- JW Marriott Capri Tiberio Palace Resort & Spa, Capri, Italy
- Rome Marriott Grand Hotel Flora, Rome, Italy
- Waikoloa Beach Marriott Resort & Spa
- Wailea Beach Marriott Resort & Spa, Hawaii
- Camelback Inn, A JW Marriott Resort and Spa, Scottsdale, AZ
- JW Marriott Capri Tiberio Palace Resort & Spa, Capri, Italy
Jan 15, 2009 | 3:38 pm
#42
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Wrong, they are exempt under the new system.
Marriott Concierge confirmed this a while back. It is also well documented (see below) on Marrirott.com at this link: http://www.marriott.com/rewards/terms/usetrms.mi#hotel
Marriott Concierge confirmed this a while back. It is also well documented (see below) on Marrirott.com at this link: http://www.marriott.com/rewards/terms/usetrms.mi#hotel
Still stinks!
Jan 15, 2009 | 4:12 pm
#43
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I'm annoyed since I just tried to make a reservation for one night in NYC Marriott Marquis for 12/31 and there's NADA...But I can make a 650$ reservation....What happened to no blackout dates?
Jan 15, 2009 | 5:47 pm
#44
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Orlando
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I just wanted to let you know I am researching the availability concerns mentioned on this thread. Because I am just getting started I do not have any concrete answers to provided. One thing that may have affected some peoples searches for availability is that systematically they were delayed until 4:30am eastern time.
Leasure rates, advance purchase rates and B&B rates available but NO reward availability of any kind!
Hard to believe this isn't fraudulent activity at the hotel level if not systematic fraud.
Jan 15, 2009 | 6:00 pm
#45
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I just wanted to let you know I am researching the availability concerns mentioned on this thread. Because I am just getting started I do not have any concrete answers to provided. One thing that may have affected some peoples searches for availability is that systematically they were delayed until 4:30am eastern time.