2009 Program Changes -- the good, the bad and the ugly
#511


Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: So Paulo
Programs: DL DM, 1MM AA PLT 2MM, Marriott Lifetime Titanium, and...Smiles Diamante
Posts: 2,811
Technically speaking if you wait until after the change to upgrade the certificate, the old rewards will not be available (meaning you would pay the higher amount) unless you have a reservation using points that was booked prior to the change. My recommendation is that, if possible, you do the upgrade before the change.
My question is:
a) would it be possible to upgrade the hotel portion to Cat 6 at a later date if I wanted a higher tier hotel?
b) if possible, would the charge be 30,000 points (300K-270K -- had a 120K mile award)
c) and, would the new certificate then be valid for one year from issuance?
Thank you. I sorted through several threads, but did not see an explanation for the above scenario.
#512
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: MAN
Programs: BA Blue, Priority Club Plat (again!), Marriott Rewards Gold
Posts: 541
Question for Marriott Concierge. I ordered a travel package last summer that included 7 nights at any cat-7 hotel. At the time this was valid for any Marriott hotel and there was no information that any cat-8 would be coming along.
I would like to stay at a hotel that was cat-7 and is not cat-8. Can I do this with my existing travel package? If not, can I use the cat-7 award and then suppliment with with more points?
Thanks, Phil
I would like to stay at a hotel that was cat-7 and is not cat-8. Can I do this with my existing travel package? If not, can I use the cat-7 award and then suppliment with with more points?
Thanks, Phil
#513




Join Date: Feb 2000
Location: Pittsburgh
Programs: Whoever Has the Best Bonus
Posts: 5,241
I redeemed at Cat 1-5 Travel Package prior to the implementation of the program changes, and have a reservation held.
My question is:
a) would it be possible to upgrade the hotel portion to Cat 6 at a later date if I wanted a higher tier hotel?
b) if possible, would the charge be 30,000 points (300K-270K -- had a 120K mile award)
c) and, would the new certificate then be valid for one year from issuance?
Thank you. I sorted through several threads, but did not see an explanation for the above scenario.
My question is:
a) would it be possible to upgrade the hotel portion to Cat 6 at a later date if I wanted a higher tier hotel?
b) if possible, would the charge be 30,000 points (300K-270K -- had a 120K mile award)
c) and, would the new certificate then be valid for one year from issuance?
Thank you. I sorted through several threads, but did not see an explanation for the above scenario.
#514
Join Date: Oct 2008
Programs: Marriott Platinum Elite, Skymiles Platinum Medallion
Posts: 55
strange. I am trying to book a 1 week vacation in south beach for the 21st of July, and it gives me the following:
No Marriott Hotel Rewards available for the dates you requested. You have three options:
1. Select another day, special rate or reward redemption option
Travel dates flexible? Alternate Date Finder shows you when Marriott Hotel Rewards are available
2. Select another hotel.
3. Choose to pay for the room. The best available rates are listed below.
Maybe it hasn't kicked in yet?
No Marriott Hotel Rewards available for the dates you requested. You have three options:
1. Select another day, special rate or reward redemption option
Travel dates flexible? Alternate Date Finder shows you when Marriott Hotel Rewards are available
2. Select another hotel.
3. Choose to pay for the room. The best available rates are listed below.
Maybe it hasn't kicked in yet?
#515
Original Poster
Company Representative - Marriott Concierge
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: Salt Lake City, UT
Posts: 1,083
What is the latest status for timeshare owners? There has been discussion about a readjustment of points received from marriott when trading your timeshare for points.
As Marriott charges more for the rental rates of our timeshares and its hotel rooms, and also charges more points for the multinight stays at your hotel rooms, we timeshare owners need to be able to stay current with our compensation.
What is Marriott's latest position on this?
As Marriott charges more for the rental rates of our timeshares and its hotel rooms, and also charges more points for the multinight stays at your hotel rooms, we timeshare owners need to be able to stay current with our compensation.
What is Marriott's latest position on this?
#516

Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: MI
Programs: DL PM, Marriott Platinum, National Executive Elite
Posts: 562
Are you saying there is a special 5 night travel package only available to timeshare owners. I own in Maui so please provide more details or a link to where I can get this information. Thanks.
#517
Join Date: Jan 2009
Programs: Marriott, Delta, United
Posts: 1
Marriott
I'm rethinking my commitment to Marriott. Fortunately, I recently booked hotels for my spring break trip, using points - and I get under the wire. But I can't make changes without using 50% more points, which I don't have.
#518
Join Date: Jun 2008
Programs: AA Lifetime Platnum, Marriott Lifetime Platnum
Posts: 48
Timeshare Travel Package????
Please let us know where this "TIMESHARE TRAVEL PACKAGE" information is posted.
#519

Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: Mid-Atlantic
Programs: AA Plat, UA Silver, DL Silver, Marriott Titanium, etc.
Posts: 4,214
Don't have time to find the link at the moment, but I believe there's a lot of discussion about this on a time-share users's group - think it is called TUGG. I am also surprised this has not been brought up on this board. If I recall correctly it does provide a guarantee for 5 nights at a particular category level (depending on the value of your timeshare) in exchange for your 7-nights at your MVCI property.
#520

Join Date: May 2004
Programs: Marriott platinum
Posts: 296
I've seen this discussed on TUG (www.tug2.net) but I don't have a link to the info. It might be on the vacationclub site for Marriott owners.
However it isn't a guarantee for 5 nights. It's just a 5 night travel package. I think the cost is the points for the 5 nights and the airline miles added on to that amount. Just like a 7 night package, only for only 5 nights so it costs less.
However it isn't a guarantee for 5 nights. It's just a 5 night travel package. I think the cost is the points for the 5 nights and the airline miles added on to that amount. Just like a 7 night package, only for only 5 nights so it costs less.
#521
Original Member

Join Date: May 1998
Location: Upstate, New York, US
Posts: 248
from MVCI site.
5-Night Travel Package Rewards for Marriott Vacation Club Owners
5 Nights in Hotel Category
miles= 50,000 70,000 100,000 120,000 <- airline miles
1- 5 165,000 185,000 215,000 235,000
cat6 180,000 200,000 230,000 250,000
cat7 200,000 220,000 250,000 270,000
cat8 230,000 250,000 280,000 300,000
Participating Airlines (subject to change): Air Canada, Alaska Airlines, American Airlines, British Airways, Continental Airlines, Delta Air Lines, Frontier Airlines, Mexicana, Northwest, United Air Lines, US Airways, Varig Brasil, Virgin Atlantic
5 Nights in Hotel Category
miles= 35,000 50,000 70,000 85,000 <- airline miles
1- 5 165,000 185,000 215,000 235,000
cat6 180,000 200,000 230,000 250,000
cat7 200,000 220,000 250,000 270,000
cat8 230,000 250,000 280,000 300,000
Participating Airlines (subject to change): Air Berlin, Air China, Air France/KLM, Alitalia, ANA, Asiana Airlines, Cathay Pacific, China Southern, Emirates, Jet Airways, LAN, Lufthansa/Miles & More, Qantas, Singapore Airlines, SN Brussels Airlines, TAP Air Portugal
5 Nights in Hotel Category
credits=32 credits 48 credits 64 credits 80 credits
1- 5 165,000 185,000 215,000 235,000
cat6 180,000 200,000 230,000 250,000
cat7 200,000 220,000 250,000 270,000
cat8 230,000 250,000 280,000 300,000
5 Nights in Hotel Category
miles= 50,000 70,000 100,000 120,000 <- airline miles
1- 5 165,000 185,000 215,000 235,000
cat6 180,000 200,000 230,000 250,000
cat7 200,000 220,000 250,000 270,000
cat8 230,000 250,000 280,000 300,000
Participating Airlines (subject to change): Air Canada, Alaska Airlines, American Airlines, British Airways, Continental Airlines, Delta Air Lines, Frontier Airlines, Mexicana, Northwest, United Air Lines, US Airways, Varig Brasil, Virgin Atlantic
5 Nights in Hotel Category
miles= 35,000 50,000 70,000 85,000 <- airline miles
1- 5 165,000 185,000 215,000 235,000
cat6 180,000 200,000 230,000 250,000
cat7 200,000 220,000 250,000 270,000
cat8 230,000 250,000 280,000 300,000
Participating Airlines (subject to change): Air Berlin, Air China, Air France/KLM, Alitalia, ANA, Asiana Airlines, Cathay Pacific, China Southern, Emirates, Jet Airways, LAN, Lufthansa/Miles & More, Qantas, Singapore Airlines, SN Brussels Airlines, TAP Air Portugal
5 Nights in Hotel Category
credits=32 credits 48 credits 64 credits 80 credits
1- 5 165,000 185,000 215,000 235,000
cat6 180,000 200,000 230,000 250,000
cat7 200,000 220,000 250,000 270,000
cat8 230,000 250,000 280,000 300,000
#522
Join Date: Jun 2008
Programs: AA Lifetime Platnum, Marriott Lifetime Platnum
Posts: 48
5-Night Travel Package Rewards for Marriott Vacation Club Owners
5 Nights in Hotel Category
miles= 50,000 70,000 100,000 120,000 <- airline miles
1- 5 165,000 185,000 215,000 235,000
cat6 180,000 200,000 230,000 250,000
cat7 200,000 220,000 250,000 270,000
cat8 230,000 250,000 280,000 300,000
Participating Airlines (subject to change): Air Canada, Alaska Airlines, American Airlines, British Airways, Continental Airlines, Delta Air Lines, Frontier Airlines, Mexicana, Northwest, United Air Lines, US Airways, Varig Brasil, Virgin Atlantic
5 Nights in Hotel Category
miles= 35,000 50,000 70,000 85,000 <- airline miles
1- 5 165,000 185,000 215,000 235,000
cat6 180,000 200,000 230,000 250,000
cat7 200,000 220,000 250,000 270,000
cat8 230,000 250,000 280,000 300,000
Participating Airlines (subject to change): Air Berlin, Air China, Air France/KLM, Alitalia, ANA, Asiana Airlines, Cathay Pacific, China Southern, Emirates, Jet Airways, LAN, Lufthansa/Miles & More, Qantas, Singapore Airlines, SN Brussels Airlines, TAP Air Portugal
5 Nights in Hotel Category
credits=32 credits 48 credits 64 credits 80 credits
1- 5 165,000 185,000 215,000 235,000
cat6 180,000 200,000 230,000 250,000
cat7 200,000 220,000 250,000 270,000
cat8 230,000 250,000 280,000 300,000
5 Nights in Hotel Category
miles= 50,000 70,000 100,000 120,000 <- airline miles
1- 5 165,000 185,000 215,000 235,000
cat6 180,000 200,000 230,000 250,000
cat7 200,000 220,000 250,000 270,000
cat8 230,000 250,000 280,000 300,000
Participating Airlines (subject to change): Air Canada, Alaska Airlines, American Airlines, British Airways, Continental Airlines, Delta Air Lines, Frontier Airlines, Mexicana, Northwest, United Air Lines, US Airways, Varig Brasil, Virgin Atlantic
5 Nights in Hotel Category
miles= 35,000 50,000 70,000 85,000 <- airline miles
1- 5 165,000 185,000 215,000 235,000
cat6 180,000 200,000 230,000 250,000
cat7 200,000 220,000 250,000 270,000
cat8 230,000 250,000 280,000 300,000
Participating Airlines (subject to change): Air Berlin, Air China, Air France/KLM, Alitalia, ANA, Asiana Airlines, Cathay Pacific, China Southern, Emirates, Jet Airways, LAN, Lufthansa/Miles & More, Qantas, Singapore Airlines, SN Brussels Airlines, TAP Air Portugal
5 Nights in Hotel Category
credits=32 credits 48 credits 64 credits 80 credits
1- 5 165,000 185,000 215,000 235,000
cat6 180,000 200,000 230,000 250,000
cat7 200,000 220,000 250,000 270,000
cat8 230,000 250,000 280,000 300,000
If you subtract out the Airline 120,000 point transfers :
MVCI Schedule above New "Enhancements" Schedule Additional Points
Category 1= 115,000 points 30,000 points +85,000
Category 2= 115,000 points 40,000 points +75,000
Category 3= 115,000 points 60,000 points +55,000
Category 4= 115,000 points 80,000 points +35,000
Category 5= 115,000 points 100,000 points +15,000
Category 6= 130,000 points 120,000 points +10,000
Category 7= 150,000 points 140,000 points +10,000
Category 8= 180,000 points 160,000 points +20,000
SO it now is MORE EXPENSIVE--not an advantage other than the ability to include airline miles but that is already available in the highly EXPENSIVE 7-night Travel Package Award from Marriott if you trade your timeshare points.
#523
FlyerTalk Evangelist




Join Date: May 2002
Location: Pittsburgh
Programs: MR LT Titanium, AA LT PLT, UA SLV, Avis PreferredPlus, HH Gold, Hertz PC, National Executive, etc.
Posts: 31,670
If he orders the Hawaiian Sampler tonight he should be fine. ... A list of the hotels accepting this reward is available at the link below.
http://www.marriott.com/rewards/more...points=150,000
Ira
http://www.marriott.com/rewards/more...points=150,000
Ira
I also notice the packages page - Travel Packages - is missing the Hawaii Sampler that shows in the recently cached version - Google cached Travel Packages .
I'm glad I recently got my certs in hand for this summer - is the Hawaii sampler now extinct?
EDIT: Never mind, I found it buried in another thread here (though nowhere on the Marriott site) - another beneficial reward dead. What cost me 150K points a few days ago is now 225K. A 50% increase is even worse than the 30-40% increase for my typical stays. I guess that's why my scorecard for the year is SPG-8, MR-0, even though the FS Marriott and CY are closer than the Westin and Sheraton at my current client
Last edited by CPRich; Jan 17, 2009 at 9:58 pm
#524
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: Pasadena,Ca.,US.
Programs: AA, Delta, United, SPG plat, Hyatt dia
Posts: 7,140
CPRich is the third Platinum member-and former VERY loyal Marriott supporter that I know about(as these are regular and long time posters here on FT) to have jumped ship because of the changes Ed French has brought to the Marriott Rewards program.
I do hope the folks above Mr. French(Including the Marriott Family)are paying attention.
I do hope the folks above Mr. French(Including the Marriott Family)are paying attention.
Last edited by bigguyinpasadena; Jan 18, 2009 at 2:59 pm
#525


Join Date: Feb 2006
Programs: HH Silver, MR Plat Prem & LT Plat, Hyatt Plat,SPG Plat, Hertz PC, National EE, UA 1K
Posts: 3,437
CPRich is the third Platinum member-and former VERY loyal Marriott supporter to have jumped ship because of the changes Ed French has brought to the Marriott Rewards program.
I do hope the folks above Mr. French(Including the Marriott Family)are paying attention.
I do hope the folks above Mr. French(Including the Marriott Family)are paying attention.
Status match to SPG....2009 YTD-
MR-2 nights (used up my last gift certs)
SPG-3 nights
Future bookings for next 3 weeks-
MR-0 nights
SPG-10 nights
Hyatt-1 night
And...just got approved for my SPG amex...typical spend on MRplat is ~$15K/month....GONE!

