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pokee Jan 8, 2013 3:47 pm

Thanks for the info, guys. I have a feeling they will be fairly useless.

It's too bad...I thought they were going to be like 'credits' towards breakfasts, wifi and parking, etc. for future stays... :(

FlyerTalker683455 Jan 8, 2013 5:26 pm


Originally Posted by Counsellor (Post 19105314)
I doubt it was that. I think it was that the selling-on ruined Marriott's calculations on how much to charge for the Bonus Bucks.

If they can't be sold on, there will be a greater number that expire unused. If their calculations of the "breakage" (as it's called) were that 60% would expire used, they could get away with charging the merchants who were distributing the Bonus Bucks as incentives $41 for a $100 bonus buck and (except for some administrative costs) actually turn a profit. However, if the breakage turned out to be only 20% and 80% of those $41 certificates were actually used, there's a loss in the making.

(Actually, the calculations are more complicated than that, since it was reported that Marriott would not pay the property $100 for accepting the $100 certificate -- the property also had to absorb a discount -- but the general idea remains valid: if more certificates are redeemed than they calculated, this could cause a loss.)

I talked once with a merchant whose firm had used the Bonus Bucks as a marketing incentive, and he said that (as he recalled) when they first began using them Marriott sold them at about 25% - 30% of face value, but when they quit the price had more than doubled. Got to be a pretty expensive incentive. If enough merchants felt the same way, the market for Marriott would have dried up. Perhaps that's why we don't see them anymore (except occasionally as a promotion by Marriott properties themselves).

Their breakage assumption is 85 percent. We were cut off from purchasing them when we approached a redemption of around 50 percent. Also, at the time, Marriott sold 100 GBP vouchers for USD29 apiece, about 15 cents on the dollar.

iflyjetz Jan 8, 2013 6:35 pm

Bonus bucks/extra euros/premium pounds was the #2 reason behind Lifetime status that I jumped ship from Starwood back in 2005. Too bad they went the way of the dinosaur; they really made the Marriott chain a bargain.

FlyerTalker683455 Jan 9, 2013 8:26 pm


Originally Posted by iflyjetz (Post 20006119)
Bonus bucks/extra euros/premium pounds was the #2 reason behind Lifetime status that I jumped ship from Starwood back in 2005. Too bad they went the way of the dinosaur; they really made the Marriott chain a bargain.

Occasionally I would check out with a credit n my folio, having to hit the gift shop or restaurant to make it go away. Full MR and bonus points and all benefits offered.

fmkgb Mar 8, 2013 6:29 am

Bonus Bucks Rate code MRP says:

Book Your Weekend Getaway by April 15th

Now through April 30, 2013, stay two consecutive nights Thursday - Sunday at a participating JW Marriott®, Renaissance® & Marriott® hotels and enjoy:
10% off best available room only rates
$100 Bonus Bucks® towards a future stay
Deluxe accommodations


I was able to book MRP rate for ONE WEEKDAY night. When I received confirmation the Summary of Room Charges said:

Member Exclusive $100 Bonus Bucks, 10 percent off Best Available Rates, 100 USD Bonus Bucks per stay, see Rate Rules

Will hotel honor the rate and give me the bonus bucks as reservation does not fit the Rate Rules but the reservation did accept the rate code?


Thanks

USirritated Mar 8, 2013 12:25 pm


Originally Posted by fmkgb (Post 20382595)
Bonus Bucks Rate code MRP says:

Book Your Weekend Getaway by April 15th

Now through April 30, 2013, stay two consecutive nights Thursday - Sunday at a participating JW Marriott®, Renaissance® & Marriott® hotels and enjoy:
10% off best available room only rates
$100 Bonus Bucks® towards a future stay
Deluxe accommodations


I was able to book MRP rate for ONE WEEKDAY night. When I received confirmation the Summary of Room Charges said:

Member Exclusive $100 Bonus Bucks, 10 percent off Best Available Rates, 100 USD Bonus Bucks per stay, see Rate Rules

Will hotel honor the rate and give me the bonus bucks as reservation does not fit the Rate Rules but the reservation did accept the rate code?


Thanks

I don't have an answer for your question, but I would like to know where you found that rate offer, and was there a "hotels not participating" list?

fmkgb Mar 8, 2013 4:03 pm


Originally Posted by USirritated (Post 20384984)
I don't have an answer for your question, but I would like to know where you found that rate offer, and was there a "hotels not participating" list?

The promo was emailed to me by Marriott on Feb 13. There is no "hotels not participating" list in the email. I booked my res on Marriott's website.

Again, the promo says bonus bucks are available for 2 night weekEND res. I booked a one night weekDAY res and the confirmation's Summary of Room Charges says: "Member Exclusive $100 Bonus Bucks, 10 percent off Best Available Rates, 100 USD Bonus Bucks per stay, see Rate Rules "

If my booking dates did not abide by the hotel's rules, shouldn't the rate code not have worked?

jtp1947 Mar 9, 2013 10:02 am


Originally Posted by USirritated (Post 20384984)
I don't have an answer for your question, but I would like to know where you found that rate offer, and was there a "hotels not participating" list?

https://www.marriott.com/specials/me...splayLink=true

USirritated Mar 9, 2013 6:32 pm


Originally Posted by fmkgb (Post 20386359)
The promo was emailed to me by Marriott on Feb 13. There is no "hotels not participating" list in the email. I booked my res on Marriott's website.

....snip....


Originally Posted by jtp1947 (Post 20389730)

Aha, there was not "hotels not participating" because there was a "hotels participating" list as it is limited to Florida only.

linsj Jan 31, 2014 10:18 pm

Extend expiration date?
 
I got a $100 bonus buck when I checked out today. The expiration is June 17, so good for only 4 1/2 months, making it useless for me. I have a Marriott reservation in late September, and was planning to use it then. The desk clerk talked to her manager about the date, but all their bucks had the same date and they had no way to extend it there.

So my question is: Has anyone successfully got the date extended by calling Marriott?

slowly Feb 1, 2014 3:00 am

No, never.

Counsellor Feb 3, 2014 12:08 pm


Originally Posted by linsj (Post 22263225)
I got a $100 bonus buck when I checked out today. The expiration is June 17, so good for only 4 1/2 months, making it useless for me. I have a Marriott reservation in late September, and was planning to use it then. The desk clerk talked to her manager about the date, but all their bucks had the same date and they had no way to extend it there.

So my question is: Has anyone successfully got the date extended by calling Marriott?

As slowly said, there are no reported successes that I know of of a recipient calling Marriott to get the date extended. However, there have been cases of hotels that had only short-dated certificates on hand to issue being able to exchange them with Marriott for certificates bearing a longer validity.

So two challenges:

1. You'd have to get the hotel to contact Marriott about exchanging the certificate. I suppose it doesn't hurt to ask.

2. Usually Marriott seems to consider the certificates OK if the remaining validity is six months or more. So, even if they did exchange a certificate with 4-1/2 months' validity, you may still not get one that would be valid for your stay in September. The validity date must extend through your check-in date, not the date you made the reservation.

Good luck.


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