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Cancel Marriott Chase now or wait and "upgrade" card in May?
#166
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: IAD
Programs: UA 1K, Marriott Rewards - LTPP
Posts: 4,240
I have had the card since 2004 and I put over $100k on it per year. I do pay off the balance each month. I was only offered 10k bonus. I want to cancel but they are saying that if I cancel and then immediately sign up for the new card, I still may not be eligible for the 100k bonus as it could take up to 60 days for the old card to close.
How do I get around this mess? Close, use a different card and hope that the 100K offer is available in 60 days?
This all seems crazy.
How do I get around this mess? Close, use a different card and hope that the 100K offer is available in 60 days?
This all seems crazy.
#167
Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: DTW
Posts: 76
I'm in the same boat and was told the same thing about having to wait 60 days. I'm not sure why Chase cares or not if the closure has hit my credit. I have multiple chase cards and have had 1-3 for the last ~5 years. Once I hit my anniversary on the current card (around 6/10), I'm waiting a week and then will cancel. At that point I'll anticipate seeing some reports of other people who have closed and then applied again.
#168
Join Date: Mar 2012
Posts: 50
Mistake to upgrade before old card’s anniversary date
I upgraded my card just days before my old card hits anniversary. It turns out to be a huge mistake. I received the new card, but free night and elite nights didn’t post. Customer Service told me that my clock was now reset for the new card and I won’t have a free night until a year later. But it my new annual fee will still be charged in 60 days.
#169
Join Date: Apr 2008
Posts: 2,358
Marriott - Chase Bank - Shorted on promised points
Earlier this month, I received an e-mail advising me of the advantages of upgrading my existing Chase Bank - Marriott credit card (that I had many years) to Chase Bank's new Marriott card.
Among other things, the e-mail notice said to click on a highlighted link to determine how many Marriott points I would receive if I accepted the upgrade offer to the new card. The number of points given to upgrade varied from 10,000 - 50,000.
I clicked on the link and I answered the questions asked. After several seconds a message appeared on my monitor that said I would receive 20,000 Marriott points if I upgrade. I accepted the offer and agreed to the new terms including the modest increase in the annual fee. All seemed good to me.
Then, my billing statement arrived a few days ago. I was given 10,000 points, not 20,000.
Thinking it was a minor clerical error, I called Chase and asked about the discrepancy.
The agent said that there is no record of my being told that I would get 20,000 and that all customers automatically get 10,000. Even though I stated that 20,000 points appeared on my screen, the agent said that is just the way it is and that nothing can be done to correct the error.
Despite my otherwise good track record with Chase Bank, I want to warn others who upgrade to the new Chase Marriott card to verify that the promised points are accurate when the points are posted to your statement.
Among other things, the e-mail notice said to click on a highlighted link to determine how many Marriott points I would receive if I accepted the upgrade offer to the new card. The number of points given to upgrade varied from 10,000 - 50,000.
I clicked on the link and I answered the questions asked. After several seconds a message appeared on my monitor that said I would receive 20,000 Marriott points if I upgrade. I accepted the offer and agreed to the new terms including the modest increase in the annual fee. All seemed good to me.
Then, my billing statement arrived a few days ago. I was given 10,000 points, not 20,000.
Thinking it was a minor clerical error, I called Chase and asked about the discrepancy.
The agent said that there is no record of my being told that I would get 20,000 and that all customers automatically get 10,000. Even though I stated that 20,000 points appeared on my screen, the agent said that is just the way it is and that nothing can be done to correct the error.
Despite my otherwise good track record with Chase Bank, I want to warn others who upgrade to the new Chase Marriott card to verify that the promised points are accurate when the points are posted to your statement.
#170
Join Date: Apr 2014
Programs: DL Gold, UA nothing (ex-GS), Marriott lifetime Plat, Hyatt Globalist
Posts: 920
I would send a secure message through the Chase website, you might need to follow up and persist a bit but they usually fix stuff like this
#171
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Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: GVA (Greater Vancouver Area)
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#172
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Join Date: May 2001
Location: MSY; 2-time FT Fantasy Football Champ, now in recovery.
Programs: AA lifetime GLD; UA Silver; Marriott LTTE; IHG Plat,
Posts: 14,518
Read the main thread about cancel/upgrading the card.
Post 149 says:
Post 149 says:
I accepted the conversion on May 3rd, and it occurred sometime between May 10th and May 12th. On the app, part of my bonus was listed as being part of a transaction on the 12th. So, it looks like they're taking about 8 or 9 days to do the updates.
Anyone who got a bonus over 10K will see it post in two parts. The first 10K will appear linked to your first transaction (you can see it in "rewards details" in the app or website). Any remaining bonus will appear on the statement, not attached to a line item. I sent a message to customer service asking for the rest of my bonus, only to find that it was there if I had just waited for the statement to generate. So, don't do what I did. I'm guessing it's set up this way in order to support the variable bonus levels for everyone -- they threw a "10K bonus on first transaction" reward into the system and then handled everything else separately.
On the statement, points from earlier in the month appear as "Points transferred in" -- presumably, transferred from the Premier account to the Premier Plus account -- and then there's a category for 6x points on Marriott and 2x on everything else (everything post-conversion, that is). And then the bonus(es).
My anniversary date isn't listed on my statement.
Anyone who got a bonus over 10K will see it post in two parts. The first 10K will appear linked to your first transaction (you can see it in "rewards details" in the app or website). Any remaining bonus will appear on the statement, not attached to a line item. I sent a message to customer service asking for the rest of my bonus, only to find that it was there if I had just waited for the statement to generate. So, don't do what I did. I'm guessing it's set up this way in order to support the variable bonus levels for everyone -- they threw a "10K bonus on first transaction" reward into the system and then handled everything else separately.
On the statement, points from earlier in the month appear as "Points transferred in" -- presumably, transferred from the Premier account to the Premier Plus account -- and then there's a category for 6x points on Marriott and 2x on everything else (everything post-conversion, that is). And then the bonus(es).
My anniversary date isn't listed on my statement.
#173
Join Date: Jul 2014
Location: SFO
Posts: 266
This might actually be a rare good timing event for me. I see I have a 20K bonus to upgrade. My Cat 5 award night just posted and my AF just showed up on my statement that will be forthcoming. So I think I might actually take the 20K and pay $95 instead of $85 for AF, and use my Cat5 certificate from last year... somewhere...
I know there likely is not enough data points out there, but can we book our Cat 5 for a date much later, cancel the card, get the new card, and still retain our Cat 5 booking?
#174
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: NYC
Programs: Marriott Lifetime Platinum
Posts: 102
same here. I got my elite night and my Cat 5 a few months ago. My only issue is, I cannot think of what I want to use the Cat 5 on before I cancel.
I know there likely is not enough data points out there, but can we book our Cat 5 for a date much later, cancel the card, get the new card, and still retain our Cat 5 booking?
I know there likely is not enough data points out there, but can we book our Cat 5 for a date much later, cancel the card, get the new card, and still retain our Cat 5 booking?
#175
Join Date: Dec 2000
Location: Charleston, SC, USA
Programs: Avis Pref+, Hyatt Explorist, Marriott Life Gold, Honors Silver, IHG Plat via MC.
Posts: 6,786
Mdosu (and Jra3,) once you receive your Cat. 5 e-cert, it's safe! You don't even need to make a dummy booking now! I've cancelled & refused to pay the AF on several Chase cards over the years. No problems ever: I always kept & successfully used my Anniv. Cert. !
#176
Join Date: Jul 2014
Location: SFO
Posts: 266
thanks for the confirmation. I am going to call and cancel the card today based on this data point. Frankly, even if they changed the rules, it's worth it to me to get the 100k and lose the Cat 5. This year, I cannot find a time and place to use the Cat 5 booking, at least not within this tight window that we may have to cancel, wait and then apply for the new card. This 100k is worth a lot to me in redemption value. It's worth at least $1000 to me in its redemption/transfer value. This Cat 5 cert is worth no more than $150.
#177
Join Date: Jul 2014
Location: SFO
Posts: 266
Just an update, I asked the Chase rep about my Cat 5 reward. She said it'll be retained even with card cancellation. It'll expire on the posted date.
#178
Join Date: Jul 2002
Posts: 3,643
Yes, I had assumed the cert was safe. One issue is whether the pickings of hotels that you can use it for goes up or down after Aug 1. Is there a definite view of that?
#179
Join Date: Dec 2000
Location: Charleston, SC, USA
Programs: Avis Pref+, Hyatt Explorist, Marriott Life Gold, Honors Silver, IHG Plat via MC.
Posts: 6,786
Some thread said we will learn all the new category placements in June!
#180
Join Date: Sep 2013
Posts: 28
Does the anniversary night eligibility gets reset if we take the upgrade offer? My annual free night gets posted in October. If I upgrade the card now, Do I get the free night (35K one) in October or does it mean I lose that night (25K one) in October and will be eligible for free night in next May?