Earning Points on Redemption Upgrade?
#1
Original Poster


Join Date: Aug 2010
Posts: 551
Earning Points on Redemption Upgrade?
Just stayed for a week using the 7 night cert form the travel package, and upgraded our room at a rate of $190 a night. This was a residence inn property.
However, I did not receive any points for the extra charge. When I called in, they said you do not receive any points for redemption stays, even if you spent money on it, and I argued that it doesn't specify that in the terms of service.
Customer service discussed with supervisor and insisted that was that case, but couldn't find where it says on the terms of service. They issued a one time courtesy points, which did not include the additional 25% bonus points. At that point, after 45 min on the phone, I didn't want to argue anymore.
Anyways, who's correct here? Are they making up ........, or did I just argue my way to some free points?
Thanks!
However, I did not receive any points for the extra charge. When I called in, they said you do not receive any points for redemption stays, even if you spent money on it, and I argued that it doesn't specify that in the terms of service.
Customer service discussed with supervisor and insisted that was that case, but couldn't find where it says on the terms of service. They issued a one time courtesy points, which did not include the additional 25% bonus points. At that point, after 45 min on the phone, I didn't want to argue anymore.
Anyways, who's correct here? Are they making up ........, or did I just argue my way to some free points?
Thanks!
#2
A FlyerTalk Posting Legend




Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: GVA (Greater Vancouver Area)
Programs: D.R.E.A.D. Gold card holder
Posts: 53,185
I think the onus was on you to show where in the T&C it states that you should get points, not the other way around. I'd say you got some points that you really didn't earn, but isn't that what FlyerTalk is all about?
#3


Join Date: Oct 2001
Programs: LTP, PP
Posts: 9,108
One would like to think that ANY money spent at a hotel would be subject to earning points, so good job getting them.
Of course Marriott is the King of carve outs, exclusions and inconsistencies whether its elite breakfast or points on incidentals from brand to brand that one needs a PHD to decipher & remember. They are good at burying the all exclusions in the fine print so the onerous should be on them to prove it.
Just curious what RI was worth $190 per night for the extra bedroom? Hawaii?
Of course Marriott is the King of carve outs, exclusions and inconsistencies whether its elite breakfast or points on incidentals from brand to brand that one needs a PHD to decipher & remember. They are good at burying the all exclusions in the fine print so the onerous should be on them to prove it.
Just curious what RI was worth $190 per night for the extra bedroom? Hawaii?
#4
Original Poster


Join Date: Aug 2010
Posts: 551
It states specifically that I would get 5 points per dollar spent on rooms, which I argued. At that point, I think it's on them to show on the T&C that it doesn't apply to redemption rooms.
#5
Original Poster


Join Date: Aug 2010
Posts: 551
One would like to think that ANY money spent at a hotel would be subject to earning points, so good job getting them.
Of course Marriott is the King of carve outs, exclusions and inconsistencies whether its elite breakfast or points on incidentals from brand to brand that one needs a PHD to decipher & remember. They are good at burying the all exclusions in the fine print so the onerous should be on them to prove it.
Just curious what RI was worth $190 per night for the extra bedroom? Hawaii?
Of course Marriott is the King of carve outs, exclusions and inconsistencies whether its elite breakfast or points on incidentals from brand to brand that one needs a PHD to decipher & remember. They are good at burying the all exclusions in the fine print so the onerous should be on them to prove it.
Just curious what RI was worth $190 per night for the extra bedroom? Hawaii?
#6
A FlyerTalk Posting Legend




Join Date: Aug 2002
Programs: UALifetimePremierGold, Marriott LifetimeTitanium
Posts: 74,119
In the past (when I wasn't Plat) I upgraded an award stay in London & received points. Never occurred to me that I wouldn't get them.
I disagree w/ you re: the onus is on the elite to prove they're entitled to points. I think the onus is on Marriott to prove they're not entitled to points & to point (pardon the pun
) to a specific clause in the T&Cs that says someone isn't entitled to points.I think, since RI only grants points on room & the OP was upgrading a room, it was worth the try to get the points. Again, if Marriott wants to say upgrade costs don't earn points it has a very easy way of enforcing it. Put it in the T&Cs.
Cheers.
#7
FlyerTalk Evangelist




Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: BOS
Programs: DL DM 2MM, Marriott LT Titanium, Hertz PC, Avis PC
Posts: 17,186
Unfortunately Marriott doesn't give points for redemption stay upgrades or cash+points. Doesn't make any sense, but they don't. If you're spending cash on the room, you should get credit for that even if its in conjunction with points award.

