So it seems the worldwide search is over . Had that been me, I would not have just quietly agreed, the MOD would have been involved for sure.

BTW, what the heck id Dragoncon? A trade show for dragons?

Something my niece and 51,999 other people look forward to every year. Here is the info: http://dragoncon.org/

Agree.

Agree.

Agree.

And I'm sure the MOD would have been glad to help you with getting a reservation at a different property .

State laws & property policies trump your "right" to bring your own booze into the exec lounge. And properties that are charging for booze in the exec lounge (US/Canada) consider it a revenue source. I doubt they're going to look favorably on those who want to bring their own booze into the lounge to avoid having to pay honor bar prices, just like they would not look favorably on someone wanting to bring their own booze into the hotel bar to avoid having to pay bar prices.

Cheers.

Sadly, I've grown to expect you to find reasons to argue and disagree with every point I make. So disappointing.

In my 30 year+ experience (plus with my parents before that) the MOD, and if not the GM or their assistant, would have instructed the attendant to not only allow me to bring in my wine, but would have instructed them to open it and serve it to me. I've experienced similar events with low level employees scores of times, not this exactly, but similar issues. The MOD or GM always resolves them to my benefit, as is their job.

Never, in hundreds and hundreds of hotels, has a situation like this resulted in the MOD suggesting a different property. Just such a ridiculous idea that they would. What they do in the real world is fly through as many hoops as necessary to ensure guest satisfaction and not move a paying guest to a different property.

Didn't realize that agreeing with you 100% was a requirement when posting on FT There are times when I agree with you & times I don't. I post in both instances.

If your 30+ years experience was with honor bars in the US exec lounges & all of the properties allowed you to bring your own wine into the exec lounge vs. signing the drink chit (or ordering from an attendant) I might agree with you.

But those of us who reside on this side of the pond who have stayed at Marriotts for many years & who are also aware that liquor laws differ by state & that properties are not prone to allow one's own wine/booze in the exec lounge where they're selling wine/booze won't agree as much.

I would wager $$ that the ATL Marquis GM/MOD would not tell the exec lounge staff to let you bring your own wine into the lounge & open it for you, having stayed at the property previously.

Getting back to the original topic. Given the # of Marriott FS brand hotels in the US I still think it's more the exception than the norm for there to be an attendant vs. signing the honor bar chit, but there might be a move to go that way moving forward. Probably to avoid folk who have 2 drinks but mark only 1 or to cut down on usage. The issue, as noted, is that it's a bit annoying if one has to wait for the attendant to clear tables in order to get a drink.

BTW - even though the wine is free in the London Renaissance, the last time I stayed there they had switched to the wine in the lounge kitchen/the attendant bringing it to you vs. you getting it yourself.

The NY Hilton (which has a good size exec lounge) actually set up a bar in the lounge, so you can wait for the attendant or just go to the bar to order your drink/sign the drink to your room.

Cheers.

You have not agreed with anything I've written in a very long time , but have openly disagreed often .

But........

In an attempt to solve this issue with the Atlanta Marriott Marquis I just called them and spoke to Skyler, the front office manager. She just transferred from Miami and thought the idea that you could not bring your own wine into the lounge to be absurd, so she put me on hold and checked with her boss.

Unfortunately.....

Her boss gave no concrete answer. She said that "he did not know if there are any laws regarding this, did not think there was any hotel policy, but if someone was intoxicated the attendant would have the right to intervene"

So.............

Even the one concrete example given, is actually a toss-up , unless one of us checks back with Skyler tomorrow ! I honestly had hoped to get a solid answer from them one way or the other. To openly admit that I was completely wrong, or to (ever so slightly) gloat that I was, most likely, correct.

Either way Sharon, laws/regs/policies aside, I can tell you with complete honesty that any time a hotel staff member has told me "no" (or my parents) on something we felt was unreasonable, management has always, always, resolved in our favor. Naturally I've never asked for drugs, or escorts or anything illegal or inappropriate, so the "no" thing would never be ok.

IMO - and my vast experience - hotel management will always find a way to ensure that I look forward to returning to their property, not suggesting I find another or creating a situation where I would not want to return.

Peace, ok? Let's shake hands and call it a draw....otherwise, tag, you're it .

At the PHL (airport) Marriott last month, liquors were self serve while the wine was poured by the attendant. I thought this was strange because liquors were far more expensive than the wine, which was very low end and so bad, I find it hard to believe anyone would intentionally try to "steal" it.

Dude, you're way too invested in this. If you want to feel you're right & the rest of us are wrong wrt bring in our own booze into US exec lounges re: of state laws or individual property policies, that's fine. Doesn't necessarily mean it's accurate, but if you want to spend your time calling all the FS properties in the US & Canada, go for it. ^ FWIW - I don't track how often I agree/disagree with FTers in threads nor the timelines involved in them.

Again, getting back to the original topic of the thread. I still think it's more the exception than the norm to have the attendant do the drink thing vs. having the honor bar, but would be interesting to see if Marriott moves more towards that. Maybe this thread could have a wiki added with listings of those that do have the attendants vs. the help yourself.

Anyway, I'm done w/ this thread. Need to call some of the US properties myself wrt whether the exec lounge is open/closed on weekends & what they do for brekkie when it's closed, so I can update the exec lounge sticky.

Cheers.

The last 2 Marriott FS properties I stayed at had attendents in the lounge serving drinks, including pouring wine:

NYC Marriott Marquis
SFO Marriott (which is an M Club)

Too bad, I had wanted to shake on it, but since you tagged, I'm it.

Who are the "rest of us" . One person made a comment about laws, you latched onto it and repeated it three times.

Problem is I was done with the thread. I made a case that you could always bring in your wine and challenged someone to do what you suggested I do, find one hotel that doesn't. In less than a day I was proven wrong and accepted that. I WROTE LONG AGO IN THIS THREAD THAT I WAS WRONG (so your "If you want to feel you're right & the rest of us are wrong" shows you actually didn't read the posts I would think). In that post where I admitted I was wrong, I actually was laughing about with "the worldwide search is over" . I have no problem accepting when I'm wrong or saying that, as I did here.

It should have ended there.

But then you posted the absolutely ridiculous:

Third time. The job of a MOD or GM is to ensure guests are satisfied and become REPEAT guests. They would never be "glad to help you with getting a reservation at a different property", that is always the absolute last resort if they have a guest who is committing a criminal offense, causing damage, etc. When you bring to their attention actions of a low level employee you feel are inappropriate, they will do whatever they can to ensure you are satisfied, and obviously if the low level staff member was in error, they would resolve that in your favor and apologize profusely. I would have expected someone with your travel experience would understand something so basic. Shrug.

Skyler got back to me and confirmed the ATL MC Marquis has a HOTEL policy which does prohibit alcohol from being brought into the lounge. I find that strange, but long before your comment about a MOD being glad to remove one of their most loyal guests, I completely had accepted my mistake, as I wrote with a joke and a smile. So not sure why you didn't shake on it and tag me. One again - I WAS WRONG (although that was written days and days ago, by me). Shrug.

Regarding "local laws", by in large, if not exclusively they restrict days of the week/hours of operation that licensed establishments can sell or serve, they zone location and authorize or refuse licenses, they prohibit the consumption of alcohol outdoors and in other non licensed locations.

I could obviously be wrong, but common sense would typically indicate that the inside of a hotel, which would include it's lounge, would never be a specific location a local law would site for restricting alcohol consumption, that is if the hotel itself has a valid license.

Good luck with the sticky.

Thanks, I probably should have just googled it but thought my joke was funny, I guess not. Checked the site, definitely not something any of my friends or family would be into, but glad your niece likes it. Everybody has to enjoy their passions hobbies and interests or life would seriously suck .

I frequently enjoy a high quality Vodka such as Absolut, Grey Goose, Titos and Ciroc and the 10 oz water bottles found in most Marriott lounges make travel, concerts and sporting events easy, discrete and economical... Thank you Marriott, they are the perfect size for me.

You have the right to bring a bottle of wine into the hotel, and into your room (where you may drink it). You do not have the right to drink it in a lounge where the hotel's liquor license may be at risk.

The original statement was about bringing liquor into the hotel, presumably into a guest room (at Dragoncon).