hotel says I don't have a confirmation but I do
#46
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Actually they all do....guests shouldn't have to mediate anything
Yes I've been up since 3 and a tad crabby...stuff like what the OP is experiencing shouldn't happen in this industry regardless of hotel brand...IMO the hotel messed up and this is not the way I've always handled similar situations (oh the $$$ I've spent on mistakes over my career....but the $$$ I've made from the loyalty is greater)
Yes I've been up since 3 and a tad crabby...stuff like what the OP is experiencing shouldn't happen in this industry regardless of hotel brand...IMO the hotel messed up and this is not the way I've always handled similar situations (oh the $$$ I've spent on mistakes over my career....but the $$$ I've made from the loyalty is greater)
I probably shouldn't have written "most hotel chains don't have specific guidelines to handle these situations", as I don't have knowledge of the official policy for most chains.
It comes down to leadership at the hotel. A good GM will always strive to act with integrity. A bad GM will create a culture that tell employees it's okay to lie to guests and say it was a "computer error".
#47
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update
I did email the hotel today, putting my understanding of what I had been told in writing and indicating that I was stressing out over not knowing what would happen. I did get a nice reply back, apologizing for the stress they were causing, and indicating they are planning on keeping me at the original property. (I am certain because I raised a fuss, and I told her we were celebrating my birthday, and this trip is a birthday present for me, which it is.) They indicated that if they had to move me, I would receive "$100 and 2 comped night vouchers".
She did say they fixed the problem in the computer. (I told her of it in my email.) She also apologized for taking so long to get back to me, but it has been "crazy" at the hotel.
I'm sure it has been!
She did say they fixed the problem in the computer. (I told her of it in my email.) She also apologized for taking so long to get back to me, but it has been "crazy" at the hotel.
I'm sure it has been!
#48
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I did email the hotel today, putting my understanding of what I had been told in writing and indicating that I was stressing out over not knowing what would happen. I did get a nice reply back, apologizing for the stress they were causing, and indicating they are planning on keeping me at the original property. (I am certain because I raised a fuss, and I told her we were celebrating my birthday, and this trip is a birthday present for me, which it is.) They indicated that if they had to move me, I would receive "$100 and 2 comped night vouchers".
She did say they fixed the problem in the computer. (I told her of it in my email.) She also apologized for taking so long to get back to me, but it has been "crazy" at the hotel.
I'm sure it has been!
She did say they fixed the problem in the computer. (I told her of it in my email.) She also apologized for taking so long to get back to me, but it has been "crazy" at the hotel.
I'm sure it has been!
Just tried to book a room and it is no longer available so seems it was corrected.
#49
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Check in as early in the afternoon as you can.
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How often / frequent can the PLT Override exemption be invoked? Just for one night like this?
What prevents local properties from being overrun by PLT's demanding overrrides and having to walk the world away. With Marriott corporate minting PLT's so easily lately, is this a new potential problem?
What prevents local properties from being overrun by PLT's demanding overrrides and having to walk the world away. With Marriott corporate minting PLT's so easily lately, is this a new potential problem?
2) a good hotel will manage their inventory and know the high demand events an plan accordingly....this isn't a new problem, IMO this was a case of bad execution by the hotel....the 48 hour guarantee isn't really difficult to honor for hotels, you just have to apply some common sense to it (ie mid-week has more plt demand than say a Sunday...so ok you take the proper steps to ensure the inventory is there and PLT Overrides don't cause an issue...in a sense hotels are holding some rooms for plats until 2 days before)
#51
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I agree 100%. This sort of situation is disgraceful and shouldn't happen in the hospitality industry.
I probably shouldn't have written "most hotel chains don't have specific guidelines to handle these situations", as I don't have knowledge of the official policy for most chains.
It comes down to leadership at the hotel. A good GM will always strive to act with integrity. A bad GM will create a culture that tell employees it's okay to lie to guests and say it was a "computer error".
I probably shouldn't have written "most hotel chains don't have specific guidelines to handle these situations", as I don't have knowledge of the official policy for most chains.
It comes down to leadership at the hotel. A good GM will always strive to act with integrity. A bad GM will create a culture that tell employees it's okay to lie to guests and say it was a "computer error".
The 2 excuses that make me cringe at the front desk are 1) central reservations did it (umm..they don't have the same authority in the system as the hotel does) 2) computer error.....ah consultants in the industry love to hear both (and many others like it) as it keeps the business flowing in
Last edited by socrates; Apr 12, 2013 at 4:28 am
#52
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PS Glad the hotel came through for you
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Does that mean they can block Platinum overrides every day or that they can only block 365 rooms total or something else?
#54
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I have a similar question.
Does this mean that only 1 PLT can get an override on a given night? That would mean the PLT member benefit is "guaranteed availability, unless one other person already has"
Or if it's 365 for the year, "guaranteed availability, unless we gave out a bunch earlier in the year so even though you're the first one, nothing for you".
This doesn't align with my understanding of the benefit. I thought it was guaranteed availability unless Corporate Marriott granted and event-/date-specific waiver.
Does this mean that only 1 PLT can get an override on a given night? That would mean the PLT member benefit is "guaranteed availability, unless one other person already has"
Or if it's 365 for the year, "guaranteed availability, unless we gave out a bunch earlier in the year so even though you're the first one, nothing for you".
This doesn't align with my understanding of the benefit. I thought it was guaranteed availability unless Corporate Marriott granted and event-/date-specific waiver.
#55
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Maybe they were having computer problems? It is showing "rooms not available" on the flexible night search through August.
#56
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#57
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I could see problems if a gaggle of PLT's decided to descend on a smaller property for some odd reason - (I imagine its a far stretch that most Berkshire Hathaway shareholders are wealthy traveling PLT's). I guess that's why overrides pay rack rate....
#58
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So if a hotel (i.e. possibly a conference hotel) has a lot of "events" that contract for its rooms inventory, then I suspect it may happen a lot.
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it means a hotel can apply for up to 365 blackouts in a given year (ie there is no limit)...but the requests MUST meet the conditions set by MI HQ
#60
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I have a similar question.
Does this mean that only 1 PLT can get an override on a given night? That would mean the PLT member benefit is "guaranteed availability, unless one other person already has"
Or if it's 365 for the year, "guaranteed availability, unless we gave out a bunch earlier in the year so even though you're the first one, nothing for you".
This doesn't align with my understanding of the benefit. I thought it was guaranteed availability unless Corporate Marriott granted and event-/date-specific waiver.
Does this mean that only 1 PLT can get an override on a given night? That would mean the PLT member benefit is "guaranteed availability, unless one other person already has"
Or if it's 365 for the year, "guaranteed availability, unless we gave out a bunch earlier in the year so even though you're the first one, nothing for you".
This doesn't align with my understanding of the benefit. I thought it was guaranteed availability unless Corporate Marriott granted and event-/date-specific waiver.
Your understanding is correct...hotels can't control turning the Plat Overrides off, only MI HQ can