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Legacy to New Travel Package Conversion (effective August 2019)
A Marriott supervisor can currently convert your legacy travel package into the new category mapping. If you hold a Category 6, 8, or Tier 1-3 legacy certificate, it's ideal to downgrade your certificate before converting so that points don't potentially get lost in the process.
The codes for the new partial packages are:
New Cat 1-4: QP83
New Cat 5: QP91
New Cat 6: QP99
New Cat 7:
The legacy certificates map to the new certificates as such:
Cat 1-5 => Cat 1-4
Cat 6 => Cat 1-4
Cat 7 => Cat 5
Cat 8 => Cat 5
Cat 9 => Cat 6
Tier 1-3 => Cat 6
Tier 4-5 => Cat 7
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If you are unsure where you will use your 7 night stay, when you request the package, just ask for a category 1-5 hotel. That way you are out of the least number of points. If later, you decide to book for a higher level category, then you can do so and pay the difference the travel package points. If you can't use your certificate within the year, then as close to the one year anniversary (without going over!) call to extend the certificate for one more year. That's as long as they will typically allow, one extension. There is an option to expedite the mileage delivery to within three business days (sometimes faster) for $15. There are reports that this fee may be waived for platinum members.
Effective April 1 2017 re: Southwest & the companion pass:
"Purchased points, points converted from hotel and car loyalty programs, and e-Rewards, e-Miles, Valued Opinions and Diners Club, points earned from Rapid Rewards program enrollment, tier bonuses, flight bonuses, and partner bonuses (excluding points bonuses earned on the Rapid Rewards Credit Cards from Chase) do not count toward Companion Pass."
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Can I book SPG properties with my Marriott Travel Package? As of 9/1/2018 apparently not. see https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/30155836-post6529.html
Legacy to New Travel Package Conversion (effective August 2019)
A Marriott supervisor can currently convert your legacy travel package into the new category mapping. If you hold a Category 6, 8, or Tier 1-3 legacy certificate, it's ideal to downgrade your certificate before converting so that points don't potentially get lost in the process.
The codes for the new partial packages are:
New Cat 1-4: QP83
New Cat 5: QP91
New Cat 6: QP99
New Cat 7:
Originally Posted by Marriott Rewards Insider
Members who purchased a Category 6, Category 8 or Tier 1-3 certificate prior to 8/18 are able to request a one-time exchange for a Travel Package one category lower. This process will cancel your current Travel Package, reissue a Travel Package one category lower and result in a refund of 30,000 points to your account. To submit a request, follow these steps:
Source: https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/marr...es-update.html
- Select “Packages - Deals” from the “Topic” drop down menu
- Submit your request
Source: https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/marr...es-update.html
The legacy certificates map to the new certificates as such:
Cat 1-5 => Cat 1-4
Cat 6 => Cat 1-4
Cat 7 => Cat 5
Cat 8 => Cat 5
Cat 9 => Cat 6
Tier 1-3 => Cat 6
Tier 4-5 => Cat 7
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If you are unsure where you will use your 7 night stay, when you request the package, just ask for a category 1-5 hotel. That way you are out of the least number of points. If later, you decide to book for a higher level category, then you can do so and pay the difference the travel package points. If you can't use your certificate within the year, then as close to the one year anniversary (without going over!) call to extend the certificate for one more year. That's as long as they will typically allow, one extension. There is an option to expedite the mileage delivery to within three business days (sometimes faster) for $15. There are reports that this fee may be waived for platinum members.
Effective April 1 2017 re: Southwest & the companion pass:
"Purchased points, points converted from hotel and car loyalty programs, and e-Rewards, e-Miles, Valued Opinions and Diners Club, points earned from Rapid Rewards program enrollment, tier bonuses, flight bonuses, and partner bonuses (excluding points bonuses earned on the Rapid Rewards Credit Cards from Chase) do not count toward Companion Pass."
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Can I book SPG properties with my Marriott Travel Package? As of 9/1/2018 apparently not. see https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/30155836-post6529.html
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Aug 13, 2018, 3:57 pm
#5131
Join Date: Sep 2012
Posts: 4,431
Right now if we book a hotel lower than the category of our cert, we get refunded the difference, ie 30k, 60k. What do you think will happen if we downgrade after 9/18 to a hotel lower in category? Refund of 120k? Or maybe the system will map into the existing price differences?
Aug 13, 2018, 5:22 pm
#5132
Join Date: Dec 2004
Programs: UA-1K, MM, Hilton-Diamond, Marriott-Titanium
Posts: 4,432
Right now if we book a hotel lower than the category of our cert, we get refunded the difference, ie 30k, 60k. What do you think will happen if we downgrade after 9/18 to a hotel lower in category? Refund of 120k? Or maybe the system will map into the existing price differences?
Aug 13, 2018, 7:05 pm
#5134
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: body: A stone's throw from SFO, mind: SE Asia
Programs: Some of this 'n some of that
Posts: 17,263
So bottom line - if u really wanna stay at a MARRIOTT property - upgrade to the right category and attach the certificate now and if u want to stay at SPG properties, your best bet is to use it post sept 18 on their cat 1-4 hotels in the new marriott award chart system or upgrade at the new point level charts e.g Category 5 - 60 k more points : Category 6 - 180k more points over and so on.
Aug 13, 2018, 7:16 pm
#5135
Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: DTW
Posts: 76
Had some issues with a TP cert in my account, in particular it disappeared after I removed another cert from a reservation, updated that 1 from a cat 6 to a cat 9 and had it applied to another reservation. This all happened on Saturday. Waited until today before calling back to get it fixed in case it found its way home unassisted. Of course that never happened. Called in and got connected to a CSR in less than 3 minutes. Talking to the CSR I asked what was happening to the certs post 8/18. She replied they didn't know because they have not been told anything. That story matches what the 3 CSR's I talked to on Saturday said. Yes, it only took 3 CSR's to cancel 1 reservation, update the cert and apply it to a different reservation. I'm more inclined to believe the 'we don't know' story over anything else.
On another note I expressed my frustration with having to make multiple calls to get something done because I keep losing my connection. She said their hell night was 8/9 when the new reservation system was installed and brought online. So apparently a major component of the new system is up and running.
And last but not least the first thing I now tell a CSR is my phone number so that when we get disconnected they can call me back.
On another note I expressed my frustration with having to make multiple calls to get something done because I keep losing my connection. She said their hell night was 8/9 when the new reservation system was installed and brought online. So apparently a major component of the new system is up and running.
And last but not least the first thing I now tell a CSR is my phone number so that when we get disconnected they can call me back.
Aug 13, 2018, 7:21 pm
#5136
Join Date: Jan 2017
Posts: 24
There are a few of us in the same situation including myself. I unattached and actually cancelled the existing booking. Will rebook after Sept 19 as a Cat 4 property.
If you leave it attached, you would need to call Marriott after Sept 18, to get the 30K pts refund back. My imagination is, that is more complicated to do versus a clean break now.
Based on the new information I believe the only situation that attached cert would be advantageous is that the hotel per night point level would go up, and you for sure would stay at that property for that chosen period. Remember Marriott always honor the bookings based on old point levels as long as the bookings are not changed at all. Any change would void the old booking with lower point level.
There is no reason to make spec bookings on upgraded categories if what has transpired now eventually becomes reality.
If you leave it attached, you would need to call Marriott after Sept 18, to get the 30K pts refund back. My imagination is, that is more complicated to do versus a clean break now.
Based on the new information I believe the only situation that attached cert would be advantageous is that the hotel per night point level would go up, and you for sure would stay at that property for that chosen period. Remember Marriott always honor the bookings based on old point levels as long as the bookings are not changed at all. Any change would void the old booking with lower point level.
There is no reason to make spec bookings on upgraded categories if what has transpired now eventually becomes reality.
However, I realized that I may have made a mistake. My reservation is in June 2019, which subject to On-Peak and Off-Peak pricing. Did I shot myself in the foot?
Aug 13, 2018, 7:22 pm
#5137
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: Florida
Posts: 29,762
Still no "redemption" email to come but at least the cert now is viewable online so I make a screen shot of it just in case!
It looks to me the reps are briefed to make sure certs expiration dates would not be extended via upgrade / downgrade / detach / cancellation of existing booking, as I received 2 emails on the same cert re-issued and canceled immediately with today's Aug 13th date.
Last edited by Happy; Aug 13, 2018 at 7:31 pm
Aug 13, 2018, 7:26 pm
#5138
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Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: body: A stone's throw from SFO, mind: SE Asia
Programs: Some of this 'n some of that
Posts: 17,263
You're likely referring to the BKK Ren. Supposedly it will be possible to have overage points refunded when the property moves down a category but whether that will hold for TPs is unknown. Why not just downgrade it now to a Cat 1-5 and attach after Sept 18 or whenever TPs open up again?
Aug 13, 2018, 7:31 pm
#5139
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: LAX
Posts: 10,909
everything now is ymmv until formally announced by marriott
Aug 13, 2018, 7:33 pm
#5140
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Not so sure about that. I cancelled a res and upgraded the cert immediately this weekend; cert has a new expiration date of Aug 10.
Aug 13, 2018, 8:12 pm
#5141
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: NYC
Programs: United 1P
Posts: 688
How certain is that all floaters will be converted to 1-4 certificate plus points for the difference in categories? I only saw one report, but no other confirmation.
Aug 13, 2018, 8:12 pm
#5142
Join Date: Nov 2009
Posts: 432
What if a certificate of a lower category is attached to a reservation of a hotel with higher category? Will there be a problem at check-in?
Aug 13, 2018, 8:13 pm
#5143
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: SNA/LAX
Programs: Hertz PC, Hilton DMD, IHG Spire Amb, Bonvoy Titanium Elite & WoH Globalist
Posts: 8,076
Here are my certs for a total of 14 nights at 1-5 category and the balance is 170K points which won't get me much in term of Travel Packages!
What to do?
Attach now or later? Or, just cash them in for later redemption?
Unused Certificates (4)
- Rewards Certificate Premier Visa Anniv. Free Night, 1-5 Hotels Expires 06/28/2019
- Rewards Certificate Premier Plus Free Night Award Expires 07/03/2019
- Rewards Certificate P510 PARTIAL PKG-CAT 1-5 - 30,000 Points Expires 07/22/2019
- Rewards Certificate 7 Night Travel Package Category 1-5 Hotels - 270,000 Points Expires 08/13/2019
What to do?
Attach now or later? Or, just cash them in for later redemption?
Aug 13, 2018, 8:14 pm
#5144
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: body: A stone's throw from SFO, mind: SE Asia
Programs: Some of this 'n some of that
Posts: 17,263
It has been postulated by a few and one individual keeps repeating it as gospel based upon the word of a phone agent. Certain is not a term I'd use.