Has Socrates checked out?
#16


Join Date: Sep 2001
Location: Philadelphia, PA, USA
Programs: UA 2P, AA LT Gold, Marriott LT Titanium
Posts: 3,177
This could be the push I need to evaluate another chain/program. I am thinking *wood.
#17
Join Date: Dec 2001
Location: Baltimore
Programs: US 1 Mar Plt Hertz PC
Posts: 696
What a shame!
Socrates was always a voice of reason, his unwavering loyalty to MR is commendable.
I may have to take another look at *wood and HH over the next few months.
Good luck Socrates, and thanks!!
Socrates was always a voice of reason, his unwavering loyalty to MR is commendable.
I may have to take another look at *wood and HH over the next few months.
Good luck Socrates, and thanks!!
#18
Join Date: Nov 2001
Location: Minneapolis, MN, USA
Programs: NW Platinum Elite * UA Premier * Marriott Platinum * Hertz #1Gold Five Star
Posts: 116
Socrates - you will be soooo missed. Personally I have always looked to you for the voice of truth on this forum. Misinformation and confusion reigns on the Internet - and while most people here do a great job of trying - we are all guilty of mistakes. But I always knew when socrates said it - it would be accurate and fair.
Recently, I posted something nice about the MSP City Center Marriott. socrates read it and posted the GM's email and suggested a note to him. I sent the nice note, a link to www.flyertalk.com and my compliments. I got a immediate kind reply back. If socrates had not suggested it - I probably wouldn't have written - and their kindness at MSPCC would have gone unreported.
kudo's to socrates for his hard work and honestly good intentions. As a Plainum member, I am very upset at this apparent disregard for the members of this forum - from Marriott corporate. WHY don't we have a official lurker? Clearly - we aren't all "flakes" lying about our status. Marriott links to the Freddies.. they obviously know about this forum and the influence it has. You have a large group of well travelled elite flyers and hotel guests - actually interested in service and most of us in total control of where we spend our hotel dollars (avg $100/nt x 85 nights - $8500 each) - isn't this a prime group of people to influence!?
Is common sense and logic not part of "The Marriott Way?"
Recently, I posted something nice about the MSP City Center Marriott. socrates read it and posted the GM's email and suggested a note to him. I sent the nice note, a link to www.flyertalk.com and my compliments. I got a immediate kind reply back. If socrates had not suggested it - I probably wouldn't have written - and their kindness at MSPCC would have gone unreported.
kudo's to socrates for his hard work and honestly good intentions. As a Plainum member, I am very upset at this apparent disregard for the members of this forum - from Marriott corporate. WHY don't we have a official lurker? Clearly - we aren't all "flakes" lying about our status. Marriott links to the Freddies.. they obviously know about this forum and the influence it has. You have a large group of well travelled elite flyers and hotel guests - actually interested in service and most of us in total control of where we spend our hotel dollars (avg $100/nt x 85 nights - $8500 each) - isn't this a prime group of people to influence!?
Is common sense and logic not part of "The Marriott Way?"
#19
A FlyerTalk Posting Legend




Join Date: Aug 2002
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I can't think of one reason socrates would delete all his posts in the Marriott forum & not others except that he was given an 'or else...' from Marriott.
Marriott, shame on you! socrates benefited marriott in this forum in many ways, & shutting him down is an example of how you are not willing to meet your customers needs. if you are going to take him out of this forum, then step up to the plate & provide your own official contact, as *wood does w/ william.
You may be the biggest program out there, but that doesn't mean you can take your customers for granted. If you do, they'll take their revenue elsewhere.
socrates, your insight & helpfulness was greatly appreciated by all of us on this forum & we wish you the best. personally i think marriott should give you a raise, not an 'or else'.
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Sharon
Marriott, shame on you! socrates benefited marriott in this forum in many ways, & shutting him down is an example of how you are not willing to meet your customers needs. if you are going to take him out of this forum, then step up to the plate & provide your own official contact, as *wood does w/ william.
You may be the biggest program out there, but that doesn't mean you can take your customers for granted. If you do, they'll take their revenue elsewhere.
socrates, your insight & helpfulness was greatly appreciated by all of us on this forum & we wish you the best. personally i think marriott should give you a raise, not an 'or else'.
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Sharon
#20
FlyerTalk Evangelist




Join Date: Dec 2002
Location: Danville, CA, USA;
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I hope that Marriott recognizes that Socrates' contributions to FT created enormous goodwill towards MR and enhanced their revenues by retaining the loyalty of their best customers. I cannot think of a single instance where Socrates provided information that was harmful to Marriott (i.e. "secret" discount codes, ways to game the system, etc.) Quite to the contrary.
To Socrates, an overdue "thank you" for all of your postings.
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To Socrates, an overdue "thank you" for all of your postings.
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Last edited by Boraxo; Apr 1, 2004 at 5:44 pm
#21


Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: YYJ
Posts: 4,413
<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by Boraxo:
Classic control-freak corporate blunder more appropriate to a (kommunist) governmental organization. "Ve vill not tolerate any unauthorized communications from employees."</font>
Classic control-freak corporate blunder more appropriate to a (kommunist) governmental organization. "Ve vill not tolerate any unauthorized communications from employees."</font>
#22
Founder of FlyerTalk
Join Date: May 1998
Location: Colorado Springs, CO
Posts: 6,540
I think that members have been answered the question of socrates and his posting (he's still very much a part of this community). I hereby declare this thread closed.
As for Marriott - I'm still working toward my million-point goal with them, and I'll get there.
As for Marriott - I'm still working toward my million-point goal with them, and I'll get there.

