Suite and Low
#1
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Join Date: Dec 2002
Location: Kent WA, USA
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Suite and Low
Here I am, back at the Tysons Corner Marriott. Asked for the best available accomodation. Was told no suites available but was upgraded to the end room. It was a bigger room than the usual king room.
I told the desk manager I logged on to the web site at IAD after I landed and the web site was showing Junior suites were available. He said it not available now. I said I will go to me room and check the Marriott web site again.
Logged in and checked. Sure enough, junior suite was still shown available for the length of my stay. Made a screen print and went down to find the desk manager. He was not there and another guy said he was also a manager and can help me. Repeated everything to him and also shown him the screen print. First he said all the suites are blocked by the hotel and if I would like to pay the suite rate he would then give me the suite.
I had another screen print on my computer showing the part about upgrade to the finest accomodation, whenever we can, at no additional cost. I said if I can see the suite being available on the web, why couldn't I have it. He pointed at the sentence WHENEVER WE CAN and said he can not give me the suite. I asked why. He said the suites are blocked for other Platinum members. I said Am I less of a Platinum member than others. He started to back track and said something about the suite not available for the length of my stay.
At that time the other manager came back. I showed him the screen. He simply said the web site is wrong and he had not updated the site since morning. I asked what happen if someone booked a suite on the web and you have no suite when the customer check in. He said he will have to work something out and downgrade the reservation. I said that was the dumbest thing I ever heard of.
I asked him to make an appointment for me to see Mr. JW Marriott. He said Mr. Marriott may not live in the area. I than asked to speak to someone in charge at the Marriott Headquarters. He said it is in Bethesda but does not know who can see me. I left him my cell phone number and told him I expect to get a call from the hotel manager tomorrow since she had already gone for the day.
Bottom line I did not get the suite. You may ask why I keep coming back. I don't know why either.
I told the desk manager I logged on to the web site at IAD after I landed and the web site was showing Junior suites were available. He said it not available now. I said I will go to me room and check the Marriott web site again.
Logged in and checked. Sure enough, junior suite was still shown available for the length of my stay. Made a screen print and went down to find the desk manager. He was not there and another guy said he was also a manager and can help me. Repeated everything to him and also shown him the screen print. First he said all the suites are blocked by the hotel and if I would like to pay the suite rate he would then give me the suite.
I had another screen print on my computer showing the part about upgrade to the finest accomodation, whenever we can, at no additional cost. I said if I can see the suite being available on the web, why couldn't I have it. He pointed at the sentence WHENEVER WE CAN and said he can not give me the suite. I asked why. He said the suites are blocked for other Platinum members. I said Am I less of a Platinum member than others. He started to back track and said something about the suite not available for the length of my stay.
At that time the other manager came back. I showed him the screen. He simply said the web site is wrong and he had not updated the site since morning. I asked what happen if someone booked a suite on the web and you have no suite when the customer check in. He said he will have to work something out and downgrade the reservation. I said that was the dumbest thing I ever heard of.
I asked him to make an appointment for me to see Mr. JW Marriott. He said Mr. Marriott may not live in the area. I than asked to speak to someone in charge at the Marriott Headquarters. He said it is in Bethesda but does not know who can see me. I left him my cell phone number and told him I expect to get a call from the hotel manager tomorrow since she had already gone for the day.
Bottom line I did not get the suite. You may ask why I keep coming back. I don't know why either.
#2
Join Date: Jul 2002
Location: Tremelo, Belgium
Posts: 74
Here are my thoughts:
1) I admire you for insisting on your rights as a Platinum member
2) Sounds like the manager(s) were pretty ignorant and keep on making up excuses
3) It is a sad thing that Marriott treats their elite members so badly...
John
1) I admire you for insisting on your rights as a Platinum member
2) Sounds like the manager(s) were pretty ignorant and keep on making up excuses
3) It is a sad thing that Marriott treats their elite members so badly...
John
#3


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The suite upgrade issue is obviously a big one for Platinums (count me in that list). I find it interesting how SPG handles this. In the event that an SPG Platinum doesn't get a suite upgrade, but can purchase one through the reservations number, the reservations person will take the initiative to call the hotel and arrange it.
Another option is to add it to the Platinum guarantee. At least we would then get some cash if they lie to us and we can prove it.
Another option is to add it to the Platinum guarantee. At least we would then get some cash if they lie to us and we can prove it.
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<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by LAXGreg:
Another option is to add it to the Platinum guarantee. At least we would then get some cash if they lie to us and we can prove it.</font>
Another option is to add it to the Platinum guarantee. At least we would then get some cash if they lie to us and we can prove it.</font>
#5
Join Date: Jan 2003
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i received a letter from marriott today regarding the letter which i wrote to them about the poor experience at the san diego mission valley marriott.
after the usual apologies, they wrote:
"Marriott's policy is to provide our Gold and Platinum members an upgraded room at check in based upon availability. This benefit applies to room upgrades which means that if you reserved a standard room, the upgrade could include a corner room, better view or concierge level room. An upgrade to a suite is an exception and therefore not required of our hotels."
they did give me 5,000 points as a goodwill gesture, which i assume was in response to the threatening check in agent.
so what you guys think? i guess we've got their double speak in print now anyway.
after the usual apologies, they wrote:
"Marriott's policy is to provide our Gold and Platinum members an upgraded room at check in based upon availability. This benefit applies to room upgrades which means that if you reserved a standard room, the upgrade could include a corner room, better view or concierge level room. An upgrade to a suite is an exception and therefore not required of our hotels."
they did give me 5,000 points as a goodwill gesture, which i assume was in response to the threatening check in agent.
so what you guys think? i guess we've got their double speak in print now anyway.
#6
Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: Sunshine State - Delta GM/Marriott platinum
Posts: 103
Based on that admission, I'd say they need to amend the language in their listing of Elite benefits.
They basically lie to us, and then admit as much. Pretty bold, IMO.
They basically lie to us, and then admit as much. Pretty bold, IMO.
#7

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I guess this is what they meant (educate hotels).
I have to say - I am glad about my decision not to renew platinum status with MR next year. Too bad, they have to lose 100+ nights from me.
I have to say - I am glad about my decision not to renew platinum status with MR next year. Too bad, they have to lose 100+ nights from me.
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#11
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Socrates,
the letter came from Marriott corporate
the letter came from Marriott corporate
#12
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Socrates,
Thanks for your reply. Feel free to email me in private.
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Thanks for your reply. Feel free to email me in private.
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"benefit applies to room upgrades which means that if you reserved a standard room, the upgrade could include a corner room, better view or concierge level room. An upgrade to a suite is an exception and therefore not required of our hotels."
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"benefit applies to room upgrades which means that if you reserved a standard room, the upgrade could include a corner room, better view or concierge level room. An upgrade to a suite is an exception and therefore not required of our hotels."
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I would really like to know if this is the official line. If that is the case, then I am off to join so many other Marriott elites at SPG. In my opinion that completely contradicts the language from the web site.
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#15
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[QUOTE]Originally posted by rives21:
after the usual apologies, they wrote:
"Marriott's policy is to provide our Gold and Platinum members an upgraded room at check in based upon availability. This benefit applies to room upgrades which means that if you reserved a standard room, the upgrade could include a corner room, better view or concierge level room. An upgrade to a suite is an exception and therefore not required of our hotels."
I believe this is the Marriott policy. This is the same reply I received when I called the Platinum Desk when the Courtyard @ 37th Street in VA Beach refused to upgrade me to a suite for one night, even though 4 suites were available and I was paying for a suite the other two nights of my stay.
This past week, I stayed at the Seattle Marriott Waterfront and was "upgraded" to a corner room on the concierge level. While this room had a great view, I wanted a suite since I was there with my family for 8 nights. When I asked the front desk manager about moving to a suite accross the hall that had just been vacated by another guest the day after we arrived, I was told, "Sorry, that room is occupied." When I responded, "Really, well the housekeeper informed me they have checked out." He responded, "I would be happy to move you to that room, however there would be a change in your rate!" I then pointed out that I was platinum and would like the best available room and he stated, "Yes, and you have been upgraded from a standard room to a corner room and that is all we are required to do!"
This hotel has only been opened 16 weeks, so it is not a matter of reeducating the staff. They should have been properly educated prior to their opening.
Problems with upgrading is one reason why I have limited my stays at Marriotts this year. If you receive nothing for your loyalty other than a cheap half bottle of wine and a small bowl of nuts or 500 points that you have to fight to get credited, its not worth it!
after the usual apologies, they wrote:
"Marriott's policy is to provide our Gold and Platinum members an upgraded room at check in based upon availability. This benefit applies to room upgrades which means that if you reserved a standard room, the upgrade could include a corner room, better view or concierge level room. An upgrade to a suite is an exception and therefore not required of our hotels."
I believe this is the Marriott policy. This is the same reply I received when I called the Platinum Desk when the Courtyard @ 37th Street in VA Beach refused to upgrade me to a suite for one night, even though 4 suites were available and I was paying for a suite the other two nights of my stay.
This past week, I stayed at the Seattle Marriott Waterfront and was "upgraded" to a corner room on the concierge level. While this room had a great view, I wanted a suite since I was there with my family for 8 nights. When I asked the front desk manager about moving to a suite accross the hall that had just been vacated by another guest the day after we arrived, I was told, "Sorry, that room is occupied." When I responded, "Really, well the housekeeper informed me they have checked out." He responded, "I would be happy to move you to that room, however there would be a change in your rate!" I then pointed out that I was platinum and would like the best available room and he stated, "Yes, and you have been upgraded from a standard room to a corner room and that is all we are required to do!"
This hotel has only been opened 16 weeks, so it is not a matter of reeducating the staff. They should have been properly educated prior to their opening.
Problems with upgrading is one reason why I have limited my stays at Marriotts this year. If you receive nothing for your loyalty other than a cheap half bottle of wine and a small bowl of nuts or 500 points that you have to fight to get credited, its not worth it!

