Upgrade Benefit Language Revised
#76
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to be clear...MI has made no public statement - I posted my personal view which unfortunately seems to be clouding the things even further
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#78
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ok maybe my fever isn't 100% gone yet....
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#79
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Their statement is so obviously not true that I'm really baffled what's going on.
#80
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not at all what I'm saying - for years there's been a debate about the exact meaning of the phrase and wording as posted on the website.....my post was just to say it was my personal believe that it appeared to me that this might have been (get my point
) an attempt to clarify things as many hear for years have felt it to be confusing
) an attempt to clarify things as many hear for years have felt it to be confusing
#81



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Strange, I don't see the links on FB anymore. Anyway they were posted yesterday here:
https://www.facebook.com/marriottrew...54370601244259
I browsed to a newer version of the archived page than was posted on FB (was from 2010 IIRC).
https://www.facebook.com/marriottrew...54370601244259
I browsed to a newer version of the archived page than was posted on FB (was from 2010 IIRC).
#82
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The current target of cost cutting is elite benefits. Just look at how many Plats had a hard time changing their Megabonus this time around.
To me, it appears that Arne Sorenson is targeting elite benefits as an excessively expensive cost center and is reducing elite benefits a little bit at a time in order to cut costs. That works until you lose a large chunk of your elite customers.
This one category upgrade is just another datapoint that MI is going for short term revenue without regard to elite customer retention.
There are a few Marriott properties that I love and will book in the future - JW Lima, Sonoma Ren, Eden Roc - but I will increasingly start looking at alternative hotel chains. Hyatt and Starwood fully cover my elite desires and I can maintain top status with each of those with 25 stays/yr. Since most of my stays are one night, I only need to do 50 nights to keep top tier with them vice 75 for Marriott.
Marriott in general was always pretty stingy about upgrades. Now they are killing elite benefits with a death of 1000 small cuts. I've been unhappy with reductions in benefits in the past and stuck with Marriott. But it's now at the point where other hotel programs are handily beating Marriott on elite treatment. Marriott's elite program is quickly morphing into another Priority Club, where elite benefits are poorly defined and murky at best.
My concern is that the trend of benefit reductions will not stop until there is significant negative impact on Marriott's bottom line.
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Not really sure what Marriott is up to - I guess they might want to cut back something and then give them back as if they 'upgrade' their elite perks - like SAS cut on board Y service a while ago and now people are liking them like crazy because they start to serve free tea and coffee on board.
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Ah - I have not seen either and since they've not made a comment here....
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Cheers.
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And there's nothing that says a person can't repost the links if they have them, especially since the corp folk won't be on until Monday
Cheers.
#89
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Well, hey, Marriott has conditioned me to have low enough expectations that I now consider getting a guaranteed King Bed an upgrade. 
Excluding hotels I deal with directly because of long term stays, I'm 2 of 6 for king beds and 0 for 6 on platinum welcome gift over the last 6 stays.

Excluding hotels I deal with directly because of long term stays, I'm 2 of 6 for king beds and 0 for 6 on platinum welcome gift over the last 6 stays.
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So how much $$ have you collected?
I think in 20 stays this year both with and without family my plat husband has gotten bed requests and arrival gift on all. I'd like to collect hte $$ myself!
I think in 20 stays this year both with and without family my plat husband has gotten bed requests and arrival gift on all. I'd like to collect hte $$ myself!


