Sep 11, 2014, 3:57 pm
Last edit by: FindAWay
Lifetime points are missing from the profile section of the website and show as 0 in the Marriott mobile app. However, you may be able to use the work-around referenced in this blog post to see your current Lifetime Points.
You can still view your lifetime points online with the following steps:
If you call Marriott they can also tell you your lifetime points balance.
http://www.marriott.com/marriott/rew...te-benefits.mi As of 20 May, this process does not work. There is no link called "Night Detail" on this page.
To check lifetime balances: (HT to txpenny)
1. Click "Night Detail".
2. Click "Learn More" (under the night total)
3. Click "Marriott Rewards Overview". At this point you're probably no longer logged in (because you've been thrown to an older version of the Marriott website), so log in again.
4. Click "Nights" under your current year's nights. -> The detail you're expecting showing LT nights and points will show up like before.
Lifetime Silver Elite:
250 qualified nights
1.2 million points
Lifetime Gold Elite
500 qualified nights
1.6 million points
Lifetime Platinum Elite
750 qualified nights
2.0 million points
To check your point and night balance, log into your account and click My Account > Account Overview > Nights.
"Elite Lifetime Status is determined by your total qualified nights stayed and points earned throughout the course of your membership – including your paid nights, Elite rollover nights, meeting nights and the nights and points earned on your Marriott Rewards Credit Card."
Points used by members to buyback their previously attained Elite level will be permanently deducted from their Lifetime point balance.
If an elite's point level drops below that required for the level attained, they will drop down to the next Lifetime level until points are accumulated to get them back to the next level.
Lifetime points in addition to nights now display on your Marriott Rewards account. When logged in, click on "Nights" (the blue link below the number representing your current year nights). You'll see the detail of what comprises your current year nights as well as your Lifetime Status nights.
You can still view your lifetime points online with the following steps:
- Go to www.marriott.com and login
- Go to https://www.marriott.com/rewards/rewards-program.mi
- Click "Nights"
If you call Marriott they can also tell you your lifetime points balance.
To check lifetime balances: (HT to txpenny)
1. Click "Night Detail".
2. Click "Learn More" (under the night total)
3. Click "Marriott Rewards Overview". At this point you're probably no longer logged in (because you've been thrown to an older version of the Marriott website), so log in again.
4. Click "Nights" under your current year's nights. -> The detail you're expecting showing LT nights and points will show up like before.
Lifetime Silver Elite:
250 qualified nights
1.2 million points
Lifetime Gold Elite
500 qualified nights
1.6 million points
Lifetime Platinum Elite
750 qualified nights
2.0 million points
To check your point and night balance, log into your account and click My Account > Account Overview > Nights.
"Elite Lifetime Status is determined by your total qualified nights stayed and points earned throughout the course of your membership – including your paid nights, Elite rollover nights, meeting nights and the nights and points earned on your Marriott Rewards Credit Card."
Points used by members to buyback their previously attained Elite level will be permanently deducted from their Lifetime point balance.
If an elite's point level drops below that required for the level attained, they will drop down to the next Lifetime level until points are accumulated to get them back to the next level.
Lifetime points in addition to nights now display on your Marriott Rewards account. When logged in, click on "Nights" (the blue link below the number representing your current year nights). You'll see the detail of what comprises your current year nights as well as your Lifetime Status nights.
Lifetime Marriott Rewards elite status (Pre-Merge 2018 and earlier)
Dec 15, 2017, 12:21 pm
#2521
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Aug 2001
Location: Finally back in Boston after escaping from New York
Posts: 13,644
Thanks for the unbiased suggestions. You're right on almost all of the above. I will continue staying at the Westin for a much more pleasant travel experience. I choose breakfast vouchers over the 500 points. I earn close to 10,000 SPG points per 3 night stay at this property, so it is terrible difficult to pass up. I get no where near that staying at any of the marriott options...
Mike
Dec 15, 2017, 1:00 pm
#2523
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Aug 2001
Location: Finally back in Boston after escaping from New York
Posts: 13,644
Dec 15, 2017, 2:04 pm
#2524
Join Date: Feb 2000
Location: Pittsburgh
Programs: Whoever Has the Best Bonus
Posts: 5,183
I transfer SPG points to my wife. She converts them to Marriott points and transfers them to me. My lifetime Marriott goes up.
I convert them to SPG points. My lifetime Marriott doesn't change.
I transfer them to my wife. She converts them to Marriott points and transfers them to me. My lifetime Marriott goes up again.
Sure, she gets a huge negative lifetime Marriott. But she was never going to get lifetime status anyway.
(Maybe I should try that instead of giving it away where Marriott can see it.)
I convert them to SPG points. My lifetime Marriott doesn't change.
I transfer them to my wife. She converts them to Marriott points and transfers them to me. My lifetime Marriott goes up again.
Sure, she gets a huge negative lifetime Marriott. But she was never going to get lifetime status anyway.
(Maybe I should try that instead of giving it away where Marriott can see it.)
Like a lot of things, you can probably get away with it for a little bit, but if you abuse it it will get noticed... especially enough to make a difference for lifetime status.
Dec 15, 2017, 2:34 pm
#2525
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: COS
Programs: UA Gold/1.5MM (several years running now!), Marriott LTTE, Hertz Prez
Posts: 1,899
Nevertheless it's pretty bad-arse. I just looked through my account, and the last time I earned 10,000 points it was for a three-week stay (including extra MACG points)! (I travel under gov't rates, so the points come slowly from actual stay dollars.).
Dec 16, 2017, 11:37 am
#2526
Join Date: Nov 2017
Posts: 6
Just out of creativity, not sure if it works by means of SPG points' purchase from scratch towards MR LTP. It might not be the most economic way but just wanna see if it is theoretically feasible.
Set up 23 SPG accounts for your friends and families, along with your own one.
Current SPG 35% points promotion - $682.5 = 30,000 SPG points = 90,000 MR points
Upon transferring those 30,000 SPG points to 90,000 MR instantly, then transfer 50,000 MR to your own account (cap per year) at $10 flat rate, and transfer the remaining 40,000 MR on 1 Jan 2018.
At the end of the day, you should have 2,000,000 MR points from 23 different SPG / MR accounts and your own accounts with a rate of $682.5 x 23 + $10x2x23 = $16,157.8
I am just not sure if the above is right theoretically, though there is also 750 nights requirement, that I think can be done through the 'meeting' side relatively easy. It seems 16,000 is not a small amount, yet the 2M MR points itself deserves quite an amount, and according to TPG, seems that each MR points values around 0.9cent ~ $18,000.
Thanks dudes!
Set up 23 SPG accounts for your friends and families, along with your own one.
Current SPG 35% points promotion - $682.5 = 30,000 SPG points = 90,000 MR points
Upon transferring those 30,000 SPG points to 90,000 MR instantly, then transfer 50,000 MR to your own account (cap per year) at $10 flat rate, and transfer the remaining 40,000 MR on 1 Jan 2018.
At the end of the day, you should have 2,000,000 MR points from 23 different SPG / MR accounts and your own accounts with a rate of $682.5 x 23 + $10x2x23 = $16,157.8
I am just not sure if the above is right theoretically, though there is also 750 nights requirement, that I think can be done through the 'meeting' side relatively easy. It seems 16,000 is not a small amount, yet the 2M MR points itself deserves quite an amount, and according to TPG, seems that each MR points values around 0.9cent ~ $18,000.
Thanks dudes!
Last edited by CXflyers; Dec 16, 2017 at 12:33 pm
Dec 16, 2017, 6:28 pm
#2527
Suspended
Join Date: Apr 2017
Programs: HH-D; MR-P/LTP; SPG-P
Posts: 849
Yes, you’ll have a very expensive 2 mil points but if you bother to read the Wiki you’ll find out that not one of those points will count towards Marriott LTP
Just out of creativity, not sure if it works by means of SPG points' purchase from scratch towards MR LTP. It might not be the most economic way but just wanna see if it is theoretically feasible.
Set up 23 SPG accounts for your friends and families, along with your own one.
Current SPG 35% points promotion - $682.5 = 30,000 SPG points = 90,000 MR points
Upon transferring those 30,000 SPG points to 90,000 MR instantly, then transfer 50,000 MR to your own account (cap per year) at $10 flat rate, and transfer the remaining 40,000 MR on 1 Jan 2018.
At the end of the day, you should have 2,000,000 MR points from 23 different SPG / MR accounts and your own accounts with a rate of $682.5 x 23 + $10x2x23 = $16,157.8
I am just not sure if the above is right theoretically, though there is also 750 nights requirement, that I think can be done through the 'meeting' side relatively easy. It seems 16,000 is not a small amount, yet the 2M MR points itself deserves quite an amount, and according to TPG, seems that each MR points values around 0.9cent ~ $18,000.
Thanks dudes!
Set up 23 SPG accounts for your friends and families, along with your own one.
Current SPG 35% points promotion - $682.5 = 30,000 SPG points = 90,000 MR points
Upon transferring those 30,000 SPG points to 90,000 MR instantly, then transfer 50,000 MR to your own account (cap per year) at $10 flat rate, and transfer the remaining 40,000 MR on 1 Jan 2018.
At the end of the day, you should have 2,000,000 MR points from 23 different SPG / MR accounts and your own accounts with a rate of $682.5 x 23 + $10x2x23 = $16,157.8
I am just not sure if the above is right theoretically, though there is also 750 nights requirement, that I think can be done through the 'meeting' side relatively easy. It seems 16,000 is not a small amount, yet the 2M MR points itself deserves quite an amount, and according to TPG, seems that each MR points values around 0.9cent ~ $18,000.
Thanks dudes!
Dec 17, 2017, 12:21 am
#2528
Join Date: Nov 2017
Posts: 6
Thanks, I have read through the wiki and tried to read through partial of the threats, that points from SPG doesn't count towards MR LT status while points from other MR accounts should count towards it. Correct me if I am not correct, thanks.
Dec 17, 2017, 12:33 am
#2529
Suspended
Join Date: Apr 2017
Programs: HH-D; MR-P/LTP; SPG-P
Posts: 849
That is correct.
You have no problem transferring up to 50,000 points per year from 1 MR account to another and it increases your LT while decreasing theirs.
You can exceed the 50,000 IF certain conditions are met and there are a significant number of posts on this specific event.
You have no problem transferring up to 50,000 points per year from 1 MR account to another and it increases your LT while decreasing theirs.
You can exceed the 50,000 IF certain conditions are met and there are a significant number of posts on this specific event.
Dec 17, 2017, 6:26 am
#2530
Moderator, Marriott Bonvoy & FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: McKinney, TX, USA
Programs: United Silver; AA Plat/2MM; Marriott LT Titanium; Hilton Gold
Posts: 11,728
With that said, while it might work on "paper", with that many transfers all from "new" accounts and all with purchased points, lets just say, I would be very surprised if someone at Marriott did not figure out what was going on and shut your account down. I do believe someone tried to do something very similar to this with Hilton and it looks like Hilton figured it out and shut them down.
Dec 17, 2017, 10:48 pm
#2531
Join Date: Nov 2012
Location: London, UK
Programs: Marriott, Virgin Atlantic, BA
Posts: 187
So I have just crossed the Marriott Lifetime Platinum totals IF you combine my SPG and Marriott accounts. Combined 2.3M points (assuming the 3:1 SPG to Marriott conversion), and 754 combined linfetime nights. Of that total, 300k (SPG) points and 167 nights are from Starwood, majority is from Marriott. I just spent the last year at a Westin though.
Thoughts? Should I push to get it all in one program? Do you think I'll get screwed when they merge?
Thoughts? Should I push to get it all in one program? Do you think I'll get screwed when they merge?
Dec 17, 2017, 10:53 pm
#2532
Join Date: Nov 2017
Posts: 6
I think what CXflyers is banking on is that the 50K limit is "per account". So one could technical transfer 50K points from account A into their account and another 50K from account B into their account and so on. While I have never tried to do that, I think that is how Marriott has structured the transfer rules.
With that said, while it might work on "paper", with that many transfers all from "new" accounts and all with purchased points, lets just say, I would be very surprised if someone at Marriott did not figure out what was going on and shut your account down. I do believe someone tried to do something very similar to this with Hilton and it looks like Hilton figured it out and shut them down.
With that said, while it might work on "paper", with that many transfers all from "new" accounts and all with purchased points, lets just say, I would be very surprised if someone at Marriott did not figure out what was going on and shut your account down. I do believe someone tried to do something very similar to this with Hilton and it looks like Hilton figured it out and shut them down.
Dec 18, 2017, 8:22 am
#2533
Join Date: Feb 2000
Location: Pittsburgh
Programs: Whoever Has the Best Bonus
Posts: 5,183
Yup, in theory it would work, but in practice its very obvious to suddenly have dozens of new Marriott accounts transferring in to one Marriott account. Especially given you are still spending $16,000 for something that may be worth $18,000, and you only get one half of the lifetime requirements (you still do need the nights, even if you you get it through meetings instead) it's probably not worth it. However, a fun exercise to consider. 
It's also not 100% clear to me if the 50k applies to both sending and receiving -- I think its only checked against the sending account, but that can change...
It's also not 100% clear to me if the 50k applies to both sending and receiving -- I think its only checked against the sending account, but that can change...
Dec 19, 2017, 2:39 am
#2534
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: BZN
Programs: AA:LT Platinum DL:LT Gold UA:1P MAR:LT Titanium
Posts: 8,291
Yup, in theory it would work, but in practice its very obvious to suddenly have dozens of new Marriott accounts transferring in to one Marriott account. Especially given you are still spending $16,000 for something that may be worth $18,000, and you only get one half of the lifetime requirements (you still do need the nights, even if you you get it through meetings instead) it's probably not worth it. However, a fun exercise to consider. It's also not 100% clear to me if the 50k applies to both sending and receiving -- I think its only checked against the sending account, but that can change...
It's also not 100% clear to me if the 50k applies to both sending and receiving -- I think its only checked against the sending account, but that can change...For the.nights part alone, it would cost just over $2K if.you get 40-some meetings before year end and let the nights over 75 roll over. All in, someone b*llsy can buy Lifetime Platinum and 2MIL MR for $18K.
Dec 19, 2017, 8:09 am
#2535
Join Date: Mar 2013
Location: LBB
Programs: UA 1K 1MM ★G | Marriott LTT | Hilton ♦ | Hertz PC | Global Entry TSA Pre ✓
Posts: 2,820
Easy to.notice if someone looks, but doubtful they have programming to check for that type of behavior. Also possible to set up the 23 accounts to be legit so no rules would be broken. Carries risk for sure, but I think it's a creative attempt. At worst, you're stuck with points you overpaid for by a bit. At best, you've got Lifetime Platinum requirement met for MR and SPG and access to those points.
For the.nights part alone, it would cost just over $2K if.you get 40-some meetings before year end and let the nights over 75 roll over. All in, someone b*llsy can buy Lifetime Platinum and 2MIL MR for $18K.
For the.nights part alone, it would cost just over $2K if.you get 40-some meetings before year end and let the nights over 75 roll over. All in, someone b*llsy can buy Lifetime Platinum and 2MIL MR for $18K.