Destination Fee Exempt Question
#16




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Whenever I have been exempt from the destination fee, at Marriott family or other brands, (ABA rate, Travel zoo rate, etc.), I have not been given any food and beverage credit that is usually included with the destination fee.
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I'm more used to corporate rates that remove the destination fee, and hence "exempt" means you don't get the benefits, but get to save the (I typically agree), "rip-off", is a significant benefit. But I don't expect to be using those benefits, as I guess the general reason is that on a business trip I don't need to be using a bike, museum visit etc. Hence I believe the hotel is right to say exempt == no benefits either, as that is the standard, and the precedent to build on, and this is how I would interpret the rate as well.
But, if woodcmfr feels strongly they they want a certain item within the destination fee, I would just pick up directly with the GM at the hotel and say "hey I am a loyal guest, can you give me X" (where X is the benefit you really want, say the bikes)" as a goodwill gesture. But I feel it would be unlikely that you can get your cake and eat it, i.e. I am sure the hotel will let you pay the fee and get the benefits, but it is unlikely you will get the full value, that's why people dislike these fees.
But, if woodcmfr feels strongly they they want a certain item within the destination fee, I would just pick up directly with the GM at the hotel and say "hey I am a loyal guest, can you give me X" (where X is the benefit you really want, say the bikes)" as a goodwill gesture. But I feel it would be unlikely that you can get your cake and eat it, i.e. I am sure the hotel will let you pay the fee and get the benefits, but it is unlikely you will get the full value, that's why people dislike these fees.
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While Hyatt waives it for Globlists and all points bookings so they are only waiving the fee but you are still entitled to what the fee is offering.
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I think the distinction is that for certain rates, Marriott exempts you from having to pay for destination fee and therefore you dont get any benefits from it.
While Hyatt waives it for Globlists and all points bookings so they are only waiving the fee but you are still entitled to what the fee is offering.
While Hyatt waives it for Globlists and all points bookings so they are only waiving the fee but you are still entitled to what the fee is offering.
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It's hard to argue that waiving junk fee for those with top status (admittedly small group) or those redeeming points (benefiting even occasional travelers) isn't better.
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Hyatt's overall a better program. I don't really see the point of reopening that debate here. But if you want to stay at a Marriott, you play by Marriott rules. Go ahead and whine about it all you like, but that points been beaten to death already.
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We take these fees under consideration when making bookings and generally avoid the useless ones, but have enjoyed the good ones in places like San Diego and Chicago, among others
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We have at least one thread here detailing worthwhile destination fees. I'm sorry you've never had one that worked for you
We take these fees under consideration when making bookings and generally avoid the useless ones, but have enjoyed the good ones in places like San Diego and Chicago, among others
We take these fees under consideration when making bookings and generally avoid the useless ones, but have enjoyed the good ones in places like San Diego and Chicago, among others
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I would argue that if it states 'destination fee exempt' then you are exempted from paying the destination fee, but are still entitled to the associated benefits unless that it is also explicitly stated that they are not available to the guest under that rate.
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I agree with the ambiguity, but I don't think Marriott would bulge. This is certainly something that you can reasonably bring up to the state attorney generals, given Marriott's past on deceptive marketing.
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If admission to an event is "$15 including 2 drink tickets", and you get free admission, I wouldn't expect to receive the drink tickets too.
What you are "exempt" from is the obligation to pay a otherwise mandatory fee. You are thus not obligated buy the bundle of goods and services that the fee covers.
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I'm not sure this would fall into the category of deceptive marketing.
If admission to an event is "$15 including 2 drink tickets", and you get free admission, I wouldn't expect to receive the drink tickets too.
What you are "exempt" from is the obligation to pay a otherwise mandatory fee. You are thus not obligated buy the bundle of goods and services that the fee covers.
If admission to an event is "$15 including 2 drink tickets", and you get free admission, I wouldn't expect to receive the drink tickets too.
What you are "exempt" from is the obligation to pay a otherwise mandatory fee. You are thus not obligated buy the bundle of goods and services that the fee covers.
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I have had multiple destination fees waived, even as part of corporate rates or as part of award stays - never received (nor expected) any of the free things that come with it. Now, certain hotels where this fee covers say 'beach chair rentals' etc. - they have essentially no means of checking that since basically 99.9% of guests have it ... you get these almost always. Things like 'tickets', 'rentals', 'F&B credit' where there is '1 per day' - they always check that you did not have it already - those you don't get when your rate doesn't have the destination fee.
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I have had multiple destination fees waived, even as part of corporate rates or as part of award stays - never received (nor expected) any of the free things that come with it. Now, certain hotels where this fee covers say 'beach chair rentals' etc. - they have essentially no means of checking that since basically 99.9% of guests have it ... you get these almost always. Things like 'tickets', 'rentals', 'F&B credit' where there is '1 per day' - they always check that you did not have it already - those you don't get when your rate doesn't have the destination fee.
However, I can see why people are confused and asked the question since this is not consistent across the industry. You do get the benefits associated with destination fee at Hyatt (not sure about Hilton who also waives it on points reservations) even when you are not paying for it. I'm not bringing this up to say which is better. Just to provide context on why people get confused.
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That's certainly how I would approach Marriott. And you are right, that's how Marriott does it consistently when the destination fee isn't charge.
However, I can see why people are confused and asked the question since this is not consistent across the industry. You do get the benefits associated with destination fee at Hyatt (not sure about Hilton who also waives it on points reservations) even when you are not paying for it. I'm not bringing this up to say which is better. Just to provide context on why people get confused.
However, I can see why people are confused and asked the question since this is not consistent across the industry. You do get the benefits associated with destination fee at Hyatt (not sure about Hilton who also waives it on points reservations) even when you are not paying for it. I'm not bringing this up to say which is better. Just to provide context on why people get confused.

