Mattress run for platinum status - worth it?
#16
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#18
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To the OP I'd suggest to apply for the AMEX Bonvoy business card - you'll get a free night cert and 15 nights credit so not a bad deal, even if you never use that card. You do need to at least have an idea to start you own business, e.g. selling stuff on Ebay, though AMEX isn't particularly strict about that in my experience.
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#20
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Similar question, thought not to post a new thread.
To begin, I have the brilliant card, so I'll maintain platinum regardless.
It looks like I'll be 1-3 nights short of actually qualifying for Platinum. Does it make any sense to make a run for it?
From what I can tell only thing I'll be gaining is the choice benefit. I personally don't value SNAs that much for my anticipated travel plans next year. Is there any other consideration that I'm forgetting about which would make qualifying for Platinum worth while?
To begin, I have the brilliant card, so I'll maintain platinum regardless.
It looks like I'll be 1-3 nights short of actually qualifying for Platinum. Does it make any sense to make a run for it?
From what I can tell only thing I'll be gaining is the choice benefit. I personally don't value SNAs that much for my anticipated travel plans next year. Is there any other consideration that I'm forgetting about which would make qualifying for Platinum worth while?
#22
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If there's really no additional consideration other than the choice benefit, seems there's not much need to bother pushing to 50 nights this year.
#23
Join Date: Mar 2017
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Worth mattress running to upgrade from Platinum to Titanium for 2024? What are the tangible benefits of Titanium vs. Platinum? A Free Night Certificate and eligibility for getting United Airlines Silver Status - anything else that I am missing?
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75% point bonus on stays, vice only 50% for Platinum.
#25
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I think Marriott is very happy with the situation so I don't think they see that as a problem as such.
#26
Join Date: May 2017
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I totally get it from Marriott's side. I'm speaking as a consumer. There's a large group of capturable market as you say, though probably lower-spend less frequent stays/person. They make money through volume and annual fees. They must calculate profits from this to exceed potential lost revenue from the true butt-in-bed consumers who stay more often and possibly spend a bit more/visit. Why give both ENCs *and* status? Only because status gets enough suckers who stay 2 nights a year and either don't use the FNC or use it suboptimally but pay the $650/yr, adding to the bottom line.
The inevitable outcome for consumers though is diluted loyalty benefit (gold is the new silver, etc and hotels offering less for a given tier as the individual hotels don't see a benefit of rewarding loyalty). Eventually to reestablish order corporate will create additional differentiated tiers. Maybe plat loses lounge access but maintains late checkout. Maybe 'roped' areas like centurion lounges. All my speculation of course but history repeats itself.
The inevitable outcome for consumers though is diluted loyalty benefit (gold is the new silver, etc and hotels offering less for a given tier as the individual hotels don't see a benefit of rewarding loyalty). Eventually to reestablish order corporate will create additional differentiated tiers. Maybe plat loses lounge access but maintains late checkout. Maybe 'roped' areas like centurion lounges. All my speculation of course but history repeats itself.
#27
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I totally get it from Marriott's side. I'm speaking as a consumer. There's a large group of capturable market as you say, though probably lower-spend less frequent stays/person. They make money through volume and annual fees. They must calculate profits from this to exceed potential lost revenue from the true butt-in-bed consumers who stay more often and possibly spend a bit more/visit. Why give both ENCs *and* status? Only because status gets enough suckers who stay 2 nights a year and either don't use the FNC or use it suboptimally but pay the $650/yr, adding to the bottom line.
The inevitable outcome for consumers though is diluted loyalty benefit (gold is the new silver, etc and hotels offering less for a given tier as the individual hotels don't see a benefit of rewarding loyalty). Eventually to reestablish order corporate will create additional differentiated tiers. Maybe plat loses lounge access but maintains late checkout. Maybe 'roped' areas like centurion lounges. All my speculation of course but history repeats itself.
The inevitable outcome for consumers though is diluted loyalty benefit (gold is the new silver, etc and hotels offering less for a given tier as the individual hotels don't see a benefit of rewarding loyalty). Eventually to reestablish order corporate will create additional differentiated tiers. Maybe plat loses lounge access but maintains late checkout. Maybe 'roped' areas like centurion lounges. All my speculation of course but history repeats itself.
But I don't think Marriott will dilute the benefits because once they have done that no one would want to spend $650/year for that card and people would be fleeing from them. As I'm sure they can get a Hyatt card too. If they ripped my LTP benefits, I won't book with them or stay with them, and I'm sure a lot of people are thinking the same.
I don't understand why people said lounge food can be all eaten up - a friend of mine used to work in a FS Marriott and she used to work in the lounge. She said food never runs out, if it runs out in the lounge they will order the kitchen to make more. It's not like a clan come in and ate everything and no one else gets food. The other lounge attendant told me the same. When a friend said kids eat everything from the lounge - I said mine ate like a pack of cereal and a yoghurt - he didn't take your food since you don't even eat those things anyway. The most crowded lounge I went to is LH SEN lounge at IAD and QR OWS lounge in DOH.
#28
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I’m U.K. based. My stays are split between U.K., US and Europe. I was previously Titanium from the merger but dropped to Gold due to a covid reduction in travel. I have the U.K. Marriott Amex with its 15 nights but I’m just a few nights short of Plat. I’ve used points for the nights required in a fairly cheap local Bonvoy hotel. I think it will be worth it for the 5 SNAs (business trip planned in an expensive US city next year, if not will use in London) alone, if not for the free brekkie!
#29
Join Date: May 2009
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Those are the main ones. You might have better luck getting things like parking or resort fees waived by asking nicely as a Titanium than as a Platinum, but as far as published benefits there isn't that much difference.