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Originally Posted by Beltway2A
(Post 31475807)
Nothing can stop a smoker who decides they want to smoke in a non-smoking room. What's the alternative to an ashtray, just have the room go up in flames?
We have ashtrays on non-smoking aircraft for the same reason, or do you assume that you're always on a smoking plane? https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fly...b56741ac1.jpeg Ashtray doesn’t matters if there is a sign. But (normally) it matters if there isn’t any sign |
Originally Posted by Bravada04
(Post 31477276)
kinda something like the recent french couple in Quebec who sued Air Canada recently because the seat belt only said "LIFT" in English and because we are a dual language country they are miffed about it and actually won a settlement. Unbelievable.
Originally Posted by Dav77
(Post 31477646)
i hope is quite easy for everyone to understand this sign everywhere on a plane. Also and especially in the toilets.
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Originally Posted by The_Bouncer
(Post 31477636)
Even in an owned unit? You mean people are seriously told what they can and cannot do in their own home that they have bought?
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Originally Posted by seat38a
(Post 31478245)
Yup, and HOA's have lots of power to begin foreclosure on you for breaking the bylaws.
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Originally Posted by wrp96
(Post 31474549)
Non-smoker here: the OP was smoking in a place where smoking is allowed. He wasn't smoking in the room. He was using the ashtrays. I don't see why some people are so offended by this thought. I don't like smoking but it's not like the OP was standing under a non-smoking sign while smoking or purposefully blowing smoke into a non-smoking area. Or like happened to me in a hotel last summer where someone on my floor was smoking marijuana so heavily in their room it filled up the entire floor with smoke - at a completely non-smoking hotel.
If I expect the OP to be courteous enough not to smoke where it's not allowed, I should be courteous enough to not get offended when he uses the places where it clearly is allowed. |
On the point of signage, the photo below is kerb-side at London Gatwick (South Terminal) - our most regularly-used airport. I'll leave it to you to guess what most people in that vaguely signed No Smoking area are doing ... as they do all the time, and with no enforcement by the Airport. ;)
The intention is to avoid smoke affecting people using that yellow-edged archway into the multi-storey car park and Hilton entrance. https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fly...fd6c4d1599.jpg |
I'm a nonsmoker. But when I'm in Vegas, I have no idea what "non-smoking room" means.
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Originally Posted by HNLbasedFlyer
(Post 31477103)
While I am not a fan of either, there is a significant difference between marijuana smoke and tobacco smoke - at least for me.
If someone is smoking tobacco cigarettes on a balcony I'll suck it up and deal with it while I'm on my balcony whether the hotel allows it or not. If you are smoking marijuana on the balcony, I'm in the camp of calling the front desk and insisting the hotel take action. A couple of years ago, I had a nice upgraded room at the Sheraton Waikiki for NYE fireworks. There was no way for our group to enjoy the fireworks with the room below smoking marijuana - suffice it to say, I called the front desk as did other rooms. By the way, marijuana is medically legal in Hawaii and recreationally decriminalized. The Sheraton Waikiki has no prohibition on smoking on their balconies, so those guests weren't doing anything wrong. Even the police couldn't have done anything. If you don't like the fact that marijuana is legal/decriminalized, don't visit that state if it bothers you so much. But stop calling security or the front desk on guests who are doing nothing wrong, just doing something you don't like, in their room.
Originally Posted by T8191
(Post 31477116)
I’ve seen plenty of those Customs and Police programmes on TV where the smell is evident, not just to sniffer dogs but normal Police and Customs staff.
Plenty of stories on how cops get their "sniffer dogs" to sit or perform the indicative action without any smell detection. Yet you believe the cops (humans) have the dogs' sense of smell? Wowsa.
Originally Posted by seat38a
(Post 31478245)
Yup, and HOA's have lots of power to begin foreclosure on you for breaking the bylaws.
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Why are Americans so aggressive/confrontationalon the Internet?
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Originally Posted by kalo93406
(Post 31478668)
The problem is it was pot which others would have a right to complain about because it's not allowed. The issue is whether he should be charged a cleaning fee. Likely there was pot smell still in the room when he left for what ever reason, drift or transfer from clothing. There have been a few good cases made in his defense though. He wasn't smoking What he was allowed Where he was allowed. ;)
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Originally Posted by GoPhils
(Post 31479321)
This. Basically the question is whether the hotel was right or not to charge OP a (cigarette) smoking cleaning fee (which is permitted on the balconies, but not in the rooms), for using marijuana (which is not permitted at all). However, although marijuana use is not permitted, there doesn’t seem to be clear penalties for it (kinda like several Bonvoy elite “guarantees”!). |
Originally Posted by T8191
(Post 31479226)
Why are Americans so aggressive/confrontationalon the Internet?
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Originally Posted by T8191
(Post 31479226)
Why are Americans so aggressive/confrontationalon the Internet?
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Originally Posted by Dav77
(Post 31479501)
because they are extremely quiet in the real life .... Don’t get me wrong, we’re off to VA on Tuesday to spend two weeks meeting up with a bunch of friends of all persuasions, many of them drunk ... but few smokers! |
Originally Posted by T8191
(Post 31479226)
Why are Americans so aggressive/confrontationalon the Internet?
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