Elite guarantee not honored
#121
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: Los Angeles, CA
Programs: AA Gold, DL Silver, Starwood Gold, Marriott Silver, HH Gold, Hyatt Platinum
Posts: 135
I've noticed on my last few reservations on the Marriott website, that even though I've logged in and making my reservation as a Platinum elite, that when I get to the final page before confirmation (showing room type, payment, etc) that they have specifically noted that my room type is not guaranteed (as well as my requests for Foam pillows----which is a whole other isssue). Is it possible that this happened but you didn't catch it before confirming? Even if it was guaranteed, it seems like Marriott doesn't care anymore unless maybe you are at the Ambassador level. Just my thoughts......
#122
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Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: Minneapolis: DL DM charter 2.3MM
Programs: A3*Gold, SPG Plat, HyattDiamond, MarriottPP, LHW exAccess, ICI, Raffles Amb, NW PE MM, TWA Gold MM
Posts: 100,417
They don't care if you're at the Ambassador level either.
#123
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Pittsburgh, PA, USA
Programs: MR LT Titanium, IHG Plat.,UA Premier Silver, & PA/OH Turnpike Million Miler
Posts: 2,320
I can assure you, when I discovered that HR Bloomington (MSP) had given me a regular room instead of the suite I'd booked, it really didn't matter how late it was (after 1 a.m.) or that I'd just arrived from SFO. I was back downstairs immediately to let them know this was completely unsatisfactory.
Who said anything about "letting the property off the hook"? Made up facts. Either you care enough about the room type to object when you discover the problem, or you don't.
Who said anything about "letting the property off the hook"? Made up facts. Either you care enough about the room type to object when you discover the problem, or you don't.
Upon further reflection, I can see a middle of the road approach when arriving late at night. Call down to the front desk from the room and report the incorrect room type. If it is an honest mistake, the hotel should be able to move you to the correct room type quickly and easily (or admit they made a mistake and no longer have that room type available and grant the compensation). If there is any pushback from the front desk that is likely to result in a time consuming argument, than table the discussion until the next morning and take it up then. E.g. still leave yourself time to sleep so you can function the next day. Furthermore, if you're under tight time constraints to leave the next day, as long as you make an honest attempt to notify the property before departing, it should be okay to take it up later over the phone if a quick resolution can't be achieved. The initial notification and request definitely must be made before leaving the property. The final resolution may not occur until later after departure. If you leave without notifying the property and making your compensation request at all, then at the that point it is implied consent and there is no longer a basis to file a complaint.
For me, I just want to be treated well at properties. I don't want to have any issues where compensation would be appropriate. I have very rarely asked for or received compensation. Hard to remember exactly how many times over the years, but I am pretty sure it has been less than 10, probably less than 5 times I have gotten compensation. I have had to pushback on a property more often than that, but even that has been rare as well. When I have pushed back for room type or room location, it has generally been honored, sometimes more pushback is required than others.
Once in a while at a property I was staying at regularly at the time, unsolicited they asked for my opinion and how satisfied I was at check in time on one of the visits. With one property in particular, at that point I gave them honest feedback that they never seemed to upgrade elite members to a better room. This was a RI and I started getting upgrades from a studio to a one bedroom after that most of the time. If they had never asked, I would have never mentioned anything. Upgrades are nice but are not guaranteed by the program.
It all comes down to the vibe the property wants to project. If I feel I am generally being treated well I am unlikely to point out any small service misses or small program benefit misses. If I don't feel I am generally being treated well, I am more likely to be a stickler for the rules and pushback harder. Of course for some random property your only staying at one time for one night, it is hard to know how they generally treat people. I have had many stays like that as well. For areas I do visit again, I do remember which properties treat me better and I try to direct my future stays to them even if their rates are slightly higher.
--Jon
#124
Join Date: Apr 2015
Location: BDL, BOS
Programs: Marriott Lifetime Titanium, AA EXP, IHG Diamond Ambassador, Hyatt Explorist
Posts: 627
Can someone explain how the bed type guarantee works? I just checked into a hotel in the US for a conference that had a group rate that was booked directly through Marriott.
When booking the rooms they were not specific as either Kings or Doubles - no ability to choose bed type.
I’m Titanium and In my Marriott preferences I specify King bed type.
At checkin I’m given two doubles. A drag because I’m traveling with my wife. I try to get them to move me but hotel is sold out. I try to invoke the guarantee and they tell me that because the room block was run of house they can’t guarantee it and the guarantee doesn’t apply.
The terms don’t say anything about exceptions for room blocks or events - in fact they say that as long as my Member number and preference are in my profile it will be honored.
Any help appreciated!
When booking the rooms they were not specific as either Kings or Doubles - no ability to choose bed type.
I’m Titanium and In my Marriott preferences I specify King bed type.
At checkin I’m given two doubles. A drag because I’m traveling with my wife. I try to get them to move me but hotel is sold out. I try to invoke the guarantee and they tell me that because the room block was run of house they can’t guarantee it and the guarantee doesn’t apply.
The terms don’t say anything about exceptions for room blocks or events - in fact they say that as long as my Member number and preference are in my profile it will be honored.
Any help appreciated!
#125
Join Date: Mar 2012
Location: PHL
Programs: AA ExP, Marriott Amb, National EAE, Hilton Diamond, SPG Plat (RIP), US CP (RIP)
Posts: 2,379
Can someone explain how the bed type guarantee works? I just checked into a hotel in the US for a conference that had a group rate that was booked directly through Marriott.
When booking the rooms they were not specific as either Kings or Doubles - no ability to choose bed type.
I’m Titanium and In my Marriott preferences I specify King bed type.
At checkin I’m given two doubles. A drag because I’m traveling with my wife. I try to get them to move me but hotel is sold out. I try to invoke the guarantee and they tell me that because the room block was run of house they can’t guarantee it and the guarantee doesn’t apply.
The terms don’t say anything about exceptions for room blocks or events - in fact they say that as long as my Member number and preference are in my profile it will be honored.
Any help appreciated!
When booking the rooms they were not specific as either Kings or Doubles - no ability to choose bed type.
I’m Titanium and In my Marriott preferences I specify King bed type.
At checkin I’m given two doubles. A drag because I’m traveling with my wife. I try to get them to move me but hotel is sold out. I try to invoke the guarantee and they tell me that because the room block was run of house they can’t guarantee it and the guarantee doesn’t apply.
The terms don’t say anything about exceptions for room blocks or events - in fact they say that as long as my Member number and preference are in my profile it will be honored.
Any help appreciated!
#127
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: Somewhere in Florida
Posts: 2,622
Can someone explain how the bed type guarantee works? I just checked into a hotel in the US for a conference that had a group rate that was booked directly through Marriott. When booking the rooms they were not specific as either Kings or Doubles - no ability to choose bed type.
#128
Join Date: Nov 2001
Location: Toronto, ON
Programs: Marriott Lifetime Titanium, AA Plat MM
Posts: 3,582
I am currently a week and a half into a 51-night trip, similar to every year at this time and currently at hotel #5 so far. I carry printouts of all my confirmations in a binder in case a disagreement should arise. Almost half of this year's confirmations contain the disclaimer "Sold out/Not guaranteed: 1 King Bed" just above the Summary of Charges. Under Room Type on every one is: "Guest room, I King" - exactly what I reserved. I have had no issues at all and have received what I booked, but would suggest this notice would allow a given hotel to weasel out of any guarantee.
#129
Join Date: Apr 2015
Location: BDL, BOS
Programs: Marriott Lifetime Titanium, AA EXP, IHG Diamond Ambassador, Hyatt Explorist
Posts: 627
"In order to qualify for the Elite Benefits Guarantee, the Elite Member’s Membership Number, Elite membership status, and bed type preferences must be included with the reservation. Reservations booked on Qualifying Rates made through meeting planners, travel agents, wholesalers or other approved third-party sources must include this information in order to be eligible for the Elite Benefits Guarantee.
This is backed up on this blog article, where it says "Marriott guarantees that you’ll receive your preferred room type (as set in your Marriott Rewards profile)":
https://frequentmiler.boardingarea.c...lite-benefits/
Could the Marriott Bonvoy Lurker weigh in here?
Last edited by ymx; Feb 11, 2020 at 7:21 pm
#130
Company Representative, Marriott Bonvoy
Join Date: Feb 2019
Programs: Marriott Bonvoy
Posts: 1,090
This language isn't clear to me. What does it mean to be "included with the reservation"? The "Elite Member’s Membership Number, Elite membership status, and bed type preferences" are part of your member profile itself. This is how I read the terms.
This is backed up on this blog article, where it says "Marriott guarantees that you’ll receive your preferred room type (as set in your Marriott Rewards profile)":
https://frequentmiler.boardingarea.c...lite-benefits/
Could the Marriott Bonvoy Lurker weigh in here?
This is backed up on this blog article, where it says "Marriott guarantees that you’ll receive your preferred room type (as set in your Marriott Rewards profile)":
https://frequentmiler.boardingarea.c...lite-benefits/
Could the Marriott Bonvoy Lurker weigh in here?
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#131
Join Date: Aug 2005
Programs: OWE, *A-G, EY Plat, Marriott Titanium, Hilton Diamond
Posts: 486
I have not had to make use of the elite benefit guarantee (most times I am not that fussed), but tonight I noticed it.
Booked a hotel around 3-4 hours before arrival, choosing a hotel I had stayed at previously. Online app booking made, with points, but no online checkin made.
Light queue on arrival, all lines busy, so was called over to a lady at the mobile checkin desk who was doing something else. Took her a few minutes to finish up and start with my booking. No mention of status, exec‘ lounge, breakfast amenity or what welcome gift I would like. I didn‘t mention anything immediately, went to room and dropped off the bags before coming back downstairs for a drink at the bar. As I was passing the desk I mentioned to one of the staff the situation. They told me to swing by after I had finished up.
Upon doing so I was told that I did online check-in (not true) and that would automatically default to points. Is this true? The staff member who checked me in also made a comment that because I had stayed there before that they apply the same as previous stays?
I don’t know if any of this is just staff covering up a mistake and hoping that I would just go away?
Is this an example of needing to push a bit harder to get the cash? Or, is there merit in what the members of staff said?
Booked a hotel around 3-4 hours before arrival, choosing a hotel I had stayed at previously. Online app booking made, with points, but no online checkin made.
Light queue on arrival, all lines busy, so was called over to a lady at the mobile checkin desk who was doing something else. Took her a few minutes to finish up and start with my booking. No mention of status, exec‘ lounge, breakfast amenity or what welcome gift I would like. I didn‘t mention anything immediately, went to room and dropped off the bags before coming back downstairs for a drink at the bar. As I was passing the desk I mentioned to one of the staff the situation. They told me to swing by after I had finished up.
Upon doing so I was told that I did online check-in (not true) and that would automatically default to points. Is this true? The staff member who checked me in also made a comment that because I had stayed there before that they apply the same as previous stays?
I don’t know if any of this is just staff covering up a mistake and hoping that I would just go away?
Is this an example of needing to push a bit harder to get the cash? Or, is there merit in what the members of staff said?
#133
Join Date: Aug 2005
Programs: OWE, *A-G, EY Plat, Marriott Titanium, Hilton Diamond
Posts: 486
the plot thickens.
#135
Join Date: Aug 2005
Programs: OWE, *A-G, EY Plat, Marriott Titanium, Hilton Diamond
Posts: 486