So I just got bonvoyed.... AGAIN!
#106
Join Date: Feb 2019
Location: ARN
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#108
Join Date: Aug 2018
Programs: DL Plat, Marriot Plat
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#109
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Join Date: Apr 2013
Location: PHX
Programs: AS 75K; UA 1MM; Hyatt Globalist; Marriott LTP; Hilton Diamond (Aspire)
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It's not systemic fraud, it's just laziness by the staff who prepare the bills.
#110
Join Date: Oct 2013
Location: ORD
Programs: UA Silver, Marriott Platinum/LT Platinum, Hilton Gold
Posts: 5,594
Yeah, that's different than mis-charging a room rate or adding a few extra bucks for F&B onto your bill. Seems like it's more about not understanding (or as you said laziness) how some of the benefits should be handled.
#111
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: Somewhere in Florida
Posts: 2,622
For longer stays, especially if I'm working out of the hotel room, I prefer larger rooms or at least where the desk area is separate from the sleeping area. I know they're "budget" hotels, but I've become quite fond of the older SHS / RIs due to the layout.
I've also been known to politely turn down upgrades if it doesn't make a difference to me. I'll thank the front desk and say it's not necessary and I'd be happy with what I originally booked if it would make things easier for them. There's a hotel I stay at regularly which is often at 100% occupancy, as is the entire city. I've let them know I'm flexible and when occupancy is high I'll take anything, even rooms which were taken out of service (within reason). They take VERY good care of me. Lots of discounts, freebies, and great upgrades thrown my way.
I was at 100% for getting the e-mails until last month. And conveniently, I've not been able to print a single folio from the website since this happened either.
#112
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Join Date: Apr 2017
Programs: Bonvoy ambassador - lifetime plat / Hilton diamond / hyatt globalist / AA CK baby!
Posts: 896
I'm glad I'm not alone in being bothered by the lack of LT titanium pathways (apparently short of buying a Marriott property!).
I think this is a bigger issue than people realise, because when us road warriors roll off the treadmill into leisure-only travel, we're going to be third in line behind ambassadors (who earn their keep every year) and LT titaniums (who may have got there from credit cards, meeting rooms, etc. while we've done the grind).
This is the main thing giving me pause about staying loyal right now (as a legacy SPG who's still coming to terms with the merger).
I think this is a bigger issue than people realise, because when us road warriors roll off the treadmill into leisure-only travel, we're going to be third in line behind ambassadors (who earn their keep every year) and LT titaniums (who may have got there from credit cards, meeting rooms, etc. while we've done the grind).
This is the main thing giving me pause about staying loyal right now (as a legacy SPG who's still coming to terms with the merger).
I'm HUGELY bothered bu the lack of a path for lifetime titanium, not bothered enough to leave the program today mind you, but when my number of years of plat finally reach 10, me and my ambassador are going to have to have a sit-down talk. And I have already been advised I might approve of the results
#113
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Join Date: Apr 2017
Programs: Bonvoy ambassador - lifetime plat / Hilton diamond / hyatt globalist / AA CK baby!
Posts: 896
Looks like for this Ambassador, Bonvoy has been pretty great to me...and even better than SPG, considering I’m more often pre-upgraded to suites by hotels that now know I am Ambassador status without needing my Ambassador to actually tell them and considering I have Ritz-Carlton and new Marriott brand options available that I didn’t before.
#114
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#115
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Join Date: Apr 2017
Programs: Bonvoy ambassador - lifetime plat / Hilton diamond / hyatt globalist / AA CK baby!
Posts: 896
Call me uninformed but as I understand it. The Lifetime Titanium Elite level is a reward to members for sustained high levels of membership in the now combined Marriott and SPG programs. I’ve been involved with Marriott’s loyalty program almost since the beginning (SPG’s as well but with zero status). I’ve seen many changes both good and bad in Marriott’s loyalty program over the years and I’ve not been pleased with many (most). I think that setting an end point to reach Lifetime Titanium Elite level is a ‘tip of the hat’ to those of us with long term loyalty to both programs. And who knows with the next change / devaluation of the program Lifetime Titanium Elite may be opened up or another level above created.
i see zero logic in having a status that can be earned - then having the plan to be doing away with it the very next year. Because that GUARANTEES that not too long down the road there will be customers that have done more business with bonvoy in their lifetime, but that are recognized at a lower level and can never obtain that higher level.
As far as me personally, I had been loyal to SPG for a dogs age, probably just as long as most lifetime plats, if not longer. My problem is that despite giving SPG essentially 100% of my business many years ago, for most of my history with the program that business was maybe 20 nights a year or so. Then a few years ago I jumped from 20 nights a year to 120 nights a year. So I COULD have made it as titanium last year on nights, I just didnt have enough years as >plat.
#116
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Join Date: Apr 2017
Programs: Bonvoy ambassador - lifetime plat / Hilton diamond / hyatt globalist / AA CK baby!
Posts: 896
Got bonvoyed AGAIN.
I paid $230 a night for a standard room at the jw Marriott in San Antonio. Put in a suite night request, and it got denied. Upon check-in all I got was a 'grand river' suite. Sure the bathtub is big enough for a Roman orgy and there are two bathrooms, 2 fireplaces, a catering kitchen, formal dining room AND a library in the suite, but it's allllll the way at the end of the hall, like a 2 minute walk from the elevator! 3 minutes if you spent the day boozing it up by the pool.
This is an outrage. Is this how you treat your valued guests Marriot?!?!? And on top of that, they keep delivering nuts and salsa and cookies and bottles of wine as little surprises while I'm out of my room (two bottles so far and I checked in Friday morning)... but do I get surprised with pizza? Noooooooo.
I paid $230 a night for a standard room at the jw Marriott in San Antonio. Put in a suite night request, and it got denied. Upon check-in all I got was a 'grand river' suite. Sure the bathtub is big enough for a Roman orgy and there are two bathrooms, 2 fireplaces, a catering kitchen, formal dining room AND a library in the suite, but it's allllll the way at the end of the hall, like a 2 minute walk from the elevator! 3 minutes if you spent the day boozing it up by the pool.
This is an outrage. Is this how you treat your valued guests Marriot?!?!? And on top of that, they keep delivering nuts and salsa and cookies and bottles of wine as little surprises while I'm out of my room (two bottles so far and I checked in Friday morning)... but do I get surprised with pizza? Noooooooo.
#118
Join Date: May 2008
Posts: 246
I have been Bonvoyed!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
If the new Marriott social media guru is on here see if you can cut me some slack- please.
I just got hit with a freaking $68 PLUS $9.52 tax for freaking parking at the Westin St Francis in San Fran. $77.52!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! And tax on parking??????????????? I can understand a flat rate for parking but this is outrageous.
I just got hit with a freaking $68 PLUS $9.52 tax for freaking parking at the Westin St Francis in San Fran. $77.52!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! And tax on parking??????????????? I can understand a flat rate for parking but this is outrageous.
#119
Join Date: May 2002
Programs: AAdvantage Platinum, United Silver, Marriott Titanium Elite
Posts: 2,276
If the new Marriott social media guru is on here see if you can cut me some slack- please.
I just got hit with a freaking $68 PLUS $9.52 tax for freaking parking at the Westin St Francis in San Fran. $77.52!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! And tax on parking??????????????? I can understand a flat rate for parking but this is outrageous.
I just got hit with a freaking $68 PLUS $9.52 tax for freaking parking at the Westin St Francis in San Fran. $77.52!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! And tax on parking??????????????? I can understand a flat rate for parking but this is outrageous.
Garage Parking
Garage Parking is available on-site, with in and out privileges. Rates: Overnight parking for $68.00, + tax, $75.00 + tax for oversized vehicles or SUV’s.
Yes, hotel parking rates in San Francisco are high, especially around Union Square.
The current topic name of this FlyerTalk thread is "I have been Bonvoyed!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!" (although I assume it will be merged into another thread). I'm not sure how paying the published rate qualifies as having been wronged by Marriott or the Marriott Bonvoy program.