AmEx Bonvoy Brilliant Luxury Card [General Discussion Thread]
#661
Join Date: Dec 2011
Location: PHL / SFO
Programs: free agent
Posts: 797
I wouldn't apply for this card just because of the name. Let's face it - Bonvoy sounds absolutely ridiculous to start with. "Bonvoy Brilliant" for the higher end spenders? Can you just imagine whipping out your Bonvoy Brilliant card to impress the ladies?
I think I'd prefer a Marriott Mickey Mouse card.
Total marketing fail, IMHO.
I think I'd prefer a Marriott Mickey Mouse card.
Total marketing fail, IMHO.
#662
Join Date: Aug 2018
Location: St. Louis, MO
Posts: 31
Is there any way to know how much credit out of that $300 is left or is reset besides doing your own calculations? Its so easy with other Amex cards like Aspire, Platinum, Gold where you could just see the bar and know if you have used your credit or not. Why not this one? Did i miss something?
#663
Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: YYZ
Programs: Marriott Bonvoy Lifetime Titanium, AC Elite, Airmiles Gold, Hertz Gold Plus Rewards
Posts: 785
This is US residents only product... Wonder if it come to Canada... I would take it -- with $300 MR expense credit makes sense to me to off-set the annual fee. Very similar to Canadian high end Aeroplan products (both Amex and Visa).
$300 -- is against any charge at a Bonvoy hotels?
$300 -- is against any charge at a Bonvoy hotels?
#664
Join Date: Aug 2018
Location: St. Louis, MO
Posts: 31
This is US residents only product... Wonder if it come to Canada... I would take it -- with $300 MR expense credit makes sense to me to off-set the annual fee. Very similar to Canadian high end Aeroplan products (both Amex and Visa).
$300 -- is against any charge at a Bonvoy hotels?
$300 -- is against any charge at a Bonvoy hotels?
#665
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: California
Programs: Marriott: Titanium, SQ: Gold, UA: Silver, Hilton: Diamond, Wyndham - Diamond, TR - Diamond
Posts: 233
Yes that is indeed the case. If you google "Marriott cross issuer rules" you can find a number of articles that will explain the specifics, and if you do an upgrade or new application make sure to check the offer terms because there will be a list of various exclusions relating to holding, having held, or getting bonuses on other Marriott cards across both issuers.
Welcome offer not available to applicants who... "or (iii)received a new Card Member bonus or upgrade offer for the Marriott Bonvoy Boundless™ from Chase, Marriott Rewards® Premier Plus Credit Card from Chase, the Marriott Bonvoy™ Premier from Chase, the Marriott Rewards® Premier Credit Card from Chase, the Marriott Bonvoy™ Premier Plus Business from Chase or the Marriott Rewards® Premier Plus Business Credit Card from Chase in the last 24 months."
https://www.americanexpress.com/us/c...-0#offer-terms
Bit of a bummer as I'd rather dump the premier plus and get this one. One issue might be travel in Asia.. American Express may not be accepted in as many places???
#666
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Los Angeles, CA
Programs: Marriott Platinum, HH Diamond, BW Diamond Select
Posts: 469
I upgraded my Chase Marriott Premier Visa back in October 2018 to the Chase Marriott Premier Plus Visa. Now my old SPG Card has an upgrade offer to the SPG Lux (Bonvoy Brilliant) for 100K/$5K spend. I’m skeptical because I received the upgrade bonus on the Chase side, but love when the upgrade offer is as lucrative as the new accounts to avoid the hard pull. I don’t think I’ll be able to get it despite the offer. I also don’t like that there is no longer a downgrade path if I product change my old SPG Amex; it’s either renew or close.
Actually, I clicked on my T&C for the upgrade and there is no mention of having the other cards that would exclude you from this offer. Whereas, it is very clear in the other T&C that you can't do that.
Last edited by lasnowgirl; Feb 14, 2019 at 4:40 pm Reason: Added Comment
#669
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: ELP
Programs: AA EXP/LT PLAT, Marriott Titanium/LT PLAT
Posts: 4,120
I tried to apply for the Bonvoy Business Amex with the same offer. After filling everything out on the screen, a pop up came up and said I wasn’t eligible for this offer since I have had the Amex offer before. You can then choose to either continue with the application for a new card or cancel. I cancelled.
I had gotten the SPG personal and business card back in 2011 and cancelled a few years later. I also got the Amex Luxury card when it came out last year and got the 100k bonus.
I had gotten the SPG personal and business card back in 2011 and cancelled a few years later. I also got the Amex Luxury card when it came out last year and got the 100k bonus.
#670
Join Date: May 2017
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Programs: Marriott Titanium Elite (Lifetime Gold), United 1K
Posts: 128
I swear I'm losing my mind, my account it showing as a Marriot Bonvoy Brilliant card but I don't remember upgrading at all. I see an adjusted membership fee on 11/2/18 which means I must have accepted something.
#671
Join Date: Jan 2000
Location: Baltimore/Washington, USA
Programs: AA LT Platinum, Hilton LT Diamond, Marriott Titanium
Posts: 3,076
I am on the same boat as you, but nervous to pull the tigger. For the 100k pts, it is worth it if they make good on the upgrade offer. Any thoughts?!
Actually, I clicked on my T&C for the upgrade and there is no mention of having the other cards that would exclude you from this offer. Whereas, it is very clear in the other T&C that you can't do that.
Actually, I clicked on my T&C for the upgrade and there is no mention of having the other cards that would exclude you from this offer. Whereas, it is very clear in the other T&C that you can't do that.
Amex = liars
#672
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Join Date: Apr 2013
Location: PHX
Programs: AS 75K; UA 1MM; Hyatt Globalist; Marriott LTP; Hilton Diamond (Aspire)
Posts: 56,461
Anyone who upgraded the Chase Marriott Premier Visa to Premier Plus for, 10k, 20k or more points also is excluded from the bonus for at least 2 years.
https://www.americanexpress.com/us/c...-0#offer-terms
Welcome offer not available to applicants who... "or (iii)received a new Card Member bonus or upgrade offer for the Marriott Bonvoy Boundless™ from Chase, Marriott Rewards® Premier Plus Credit Card from Chase, the Marriott Bonvoy™ Premier from Chase, the Marriott Rewards® Premier Credit Card from Chase, the Marriott Bonvoy™ Premier Plus Business from Chase or the Marriott Rewards® Premier Plus Business Credit Card from Chase in the last 24 months."
#673
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: San Diego
Posts: 75
This is US residents only product... Wonder if it come to Canada... I would take it -- with $300 MR expense credit makes sense to me to off-set the annual fee. Very similar to Canadian high end Aeroplan products (both Amex and Visa).
$300 -- is against any charge at a Bonvoy hotels?
$300 -- is against any charge at a Bonvoy hotels?
#674
Join Date: Feb 2013
Location: Miami, FL
Programs: UA 1MM, AA Plat, Marriott LT Titanium, Hyatt Glob, IHG ♢ Amb, Hilton ♢, Hertz Pres
Posts: 6,017
Anyone who upgraded the Chase Marriott Premier Visa to Premier Plus for, 10k, 20k or more points also is excluded from the bonus for at least 2 years.
Welcome offer not available to applicants who... "or (iii)received a new Card Member bonus or upgrade offer for the Marriott Bonvoy Boundless™ from Chase, Marriott Rewards® Premier Plus Credit Card from Chase, the Marriott Bonvoy™ Premier from Chase, the Marriott Rewards® Premier Credit Card from Chase, the Marriott Bonvoy™ Premier Plus Business from Chase or the Marriott Rewards® Premier Plus Business Credit Card from Chase in the last 24 months."
https://www.americanexpress.com/us/c...-0#offer-terms
Bit of a bummer as I'd rather dump the premier plus and get this one. One issue might be travel in Asia.. American Express may not be accepted in as many places???
Welcome offer not available to applicants who... "or (iii)received a new Card Member bonus or upgrade offer for the Marriott Bonvoy Boundless™ from Chase, Marriott Rewards® Premier Plus Credit Card from Chase, the Marriott Bonvoy™ Premier from Chase, the Marriott Rewards® Premier Credit Card from Chase, the Marriott Bonvoy™ Premier Plus Business from Chase or the Marriott Rewards® Premier Plus Business Credit Card from Chase in the last 24 months."
https://www.americanexpress.com/us/c...-0#offer-terms
Bit of a bummer as I'd rather dump the premier plus and get this one. One issue might be travel in Asia.. American Express may not be accepted in as many places???
My Chase account page is showing similar (no adjusted fee though). I'm pretty sure it's an error, as I still have a crappy upgrade offer if I click the upgrade link (https://www.chase.com/chasegreatrewards/catchall).
Pretty harsh. I got the basic Marriott Card about 20 months ago, have not upgraded it, yet this language would seem to exclude me from an upgrade bonus.
Pretty harsh. I got the basic Marriott Card about 20 months ago, have not upgraded it, yet this language would seem to exclude me from an upgrade bonus.
Just be sure to wait >24 months from your last bonus on the Marriott basic card to ensure when you apply for the Bonvoy Brilliant that you're eligible for whatever bonus is in play then. Can't imagine it'll be less than 100k whenever that is.
#675
Join Date: Nov 2017
Programs: AA EXP, Marriott Bonvoy titanium
Posts: 537
Card came in the mail today. They shipped a plastic SPG Card with a leaflet in the package indicating they will send a new metal card at some point in the future with the bonvoy branding
i dont mind so long long as the numbers don’t change but I’m a bit surprised Amex wasn’t more prepaired given the campaign and bonus points. I’d assume quite a few new cards will be activated
i dont mind so long long as the numbers don’t change but I’m a bit surprised Amex wasn’t more prepaired given the campaign and bonus points. I’d assume quite a few new cards will be activated