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andersonCooper Aug 23, 2018 6:29 am

AmEx Bonvoy Brilliant Luxury Card [General Discussion Thread]
 
New card landing page (no referral or whatsoever):
https://www.americanexpress.com/us/c...dArt-SPGLuxury

T&C:
https://www.americanexpress.com/us/c...0/#offer-terms

"Welcome offer not available to applicants who have or have had this Card. We may also consider the number of American Express Cards you have opened and closed as well as other factors in making a decision on your welcome offer eligibility.

Effective 8/26, welcome offer not available to applicants who (i) have or have had The Ritz-Carlton RewardsŪ Credit Card from JP Morgan in the last 30 days, (ii) have acquired The Marriott RewardsŪ Premier Plus Credit Card from Chase, The Marriott RewardsŪ Premier Credit Card from Chase, or The Marriott RewardsŪ Premier Business Credit Card from Chase in the last 90 days, or (iii) received a welcome or upgrade offer for The Marriott RewardsŪ Premier Plus Credit Card from Chase, The Marriott RewardsŪ Premier Credit Card from Chase, or The Marriott RewardsŪ Premier Business Credit Card from Chase in the last 24 months."

ckelly14 Aug 23, 2018 6:38 am

New SPG Luxury card out today- Who's biting?
 
NEW Amex SPG Luxury Card

Much anticipated Luxury Card out today, with 100K bonus. Nothing to sneeze at but certainly would have been more impressive a few months ago.

Any takers? I'm on the fence.

I received the offer for 30,0000 extra points on my SPG personal card and I will use it until I reach the required 15K spend. 100,000 on the Luxury Card offer good until October 31st.

Already lifetime Gold and I don't think the going for platinum is worth the extra spend. I have similar or better benefits on my CSR and my AAdvantage Executive cards, but I'm somewhat of a sucker for these luxury cards.

lotrbfme Aug 23, 2018 6:44 am

Just keep in mind the trickery evil marriott is employing on this card. You might think: "oh awesome I get a free night up to 50k points. So that means I will get next year a night at that awesome ritz carlton cat 6."

WRONG. Next year they will introduce that off peak and peak pricing so most likely you are going to get a cat 5 peak hotel (same cat free night you get this year with a $95 AF marriott card)

UA-NYC Aug 23, 2018 6:45 am

Don't know what it does any better/different for us that already have that status in LT.

Now IF everyday spend was 3 points per $, that would change things...

Ord Liza Aug 23, 2018 6:46 am


Originally Posted by andersonCooper (Post 30119384)
New card landing page (no referral or whatsoever):
https://www.americanexpress.com/us/c...dArt-SPGLuxury

T&C:
https://www.americanexpress.com/us/c...0/#offer-terms

"Welcome offer not available to applicants who have or have had this Card. We may also consider the number of American Express Cards you have opened and closed as well as other factors in making a decision on your welcome offer eligibility.

Effective 8/26, welcome offer not available to applicants who (i) have or have had The Ritz-Carlton RewardsŪ Credit Card from JP Morgan in the last 30 days, (ii) have acquired The Marriott RewardsŪ Premier Plus Credit Card from Chase, The Marriott RewardsŪ Premier Credit Card from Chase, or The Marriott RewardsŪ Premier Business Credit Card from Chase in the last 90 days, or (iii) received a welcome or upgrade offer for The Marriott RewardsŪ Premier Plus Credit Card from Chase, The Marriott RewardsŪ Premier Credit Card from Chase, or The Marriott RewardsŪ Premier Business Credit Card from Chase in the last 24 months."

I've received an offer, I just haven't accepted it. Could they be that devious?

ehallison Aug 23, 2018 7:03 am

And...I'm not eligible for the bonus offer based on my history with American Express. I believe my only Amex cards in the past were the SPG business which I kept open for 3 years, and the SPG personal which I did close when the annual fee came around. I currently have a Blue card.
At least it was nice of them to let me know before the credit check.

wanalaugh74 Aug 23, 2018 8:07 am


Originally Posted by ehallison (Post 30119520)
And...I'm not eligible for the bonus offer based on my history with American Express. I believe my only Amex cards in the past were the SPG business which I kept open for 3 years, and the SPG personal which I did close when the annual fee came around. I currently have a Blue card.
At least it was nice of them to let me know before the credit check.

I dont understand why you wouldn't be eligible? Are current SPG personal cards not eligible?

Does anyone know if you upgrade vs apply for new gets the bonus? Thanks

dw Aug 23, 2018 8:10 am


Originally Posted by wanalaugh74 (Post 30119811)
I dont understand why you wouldn't be eligible? Are current SPG personal cards not eligible?

Amex has a new algorithm that assesses, prior to them doing a hard pull, whether you are "eligible" (using not only the written terms of the offer, but also their undisclosed internal assessment supposedly based on your history with them-- i.e. how many cards you have, how many you have had, your spending patterns,etc.). If it determines you are not, it gives you the option to just cancel the application.

Safetravel3 Aug 23, 2018 8:33 am


Originally Posted by ckelly14 (Post 30119414)
NEW Amex SPG Luxury Card

Much anticipated Luxury Card out today, with 100K bonus. Nothing to sneeze at but certainly would have been more impressive a few months ago.

Any takers? I'm on the fence.

I received the offer for 30,0000 extra points on my SPG personal card and I will use it until I reach the required 15K spend. 100,000 on the Luxury Card offer good until October 31st.

Already lifetime Gold and I don't think the going for platinum is worth the extra spend. I have similar or better benefits on my CSR and my AAdvantage Executive cards, but I'm somewhat of a sucker for these luxury cards.

Not thrilled. I have Amex SPG personal card and am SPG Lifetime Gold (Elite) too. Don't find the need to upgrade or apply the new card for bonus. The earning power is the same as my SPG personal card. I have CSR and Citi TYP for travel and dining (worldwide) and far more. I have CSR for PP lounge access. I hardly dine or shop at hotels. I am also a sucker for metal cards, but I guess that I pass...

wanalaugh74 Aug 23, 2018 8:50 am


Originally Posted by dw (Post 30119828)
Amex has a new algorithm that assesses, prior to them doing a hard pull, whether you are "eligible" (using not only the written terms of the offer, but also their undisclosed internal assessment supposedly based on your history with them-- i.e. how many cards you have, how many you have had, your spending patterns,etc.). If it determines you are not, it gives you the option to just cancel the application.

ahh makes sense.. do you think having just 1 SPG personal card will negate me? I just dont know if I should apply for new or upgrade. I dont think the upgrade would get the 100K bonus

5DMarkIIguy Aug 23, 2018 9:00 am

"Effective 8/26, welcome offer not available to applicants who (i) have or have had The Ritz-Carlton RewardsŪ Credit Card from JP Morgan in the last 30 days, (ii) have acquired The Marriott RewardsŪ Premier Plus Credit Card from Chase, The Marriott RewardsŪ Premier Credit Card from Chase, or The Marriott RewardsŪ Premier Business Credit Card from Chase in the last 90 days, or (iii) received a welcome or upgrade offer for The Marriott RewardsŪ Premier Plus Credit Card from Chase, The Marriott RewardsŪ Premier Credit Card from Chase, or The Marriott RewardsŪ Premier Business Credit Card from Chase in the last 24 months."

Does that mean you have until 8/26 to apply and get the bonus even if you have had the other stuffs?

FlyerStef Aug 23, 2018 9:12 am


Originally Posted by wanalaugh74 (Post 30120000)
ahh makes sense.. do you think having just 1 SPG personal card will negate me? I just dont know if I should apply for new or upgrade. I dont think the upgrade would get the 100K bonus

I have the SPG personal amex and the newer marriott card - just applied for and got this one without any warning about no bonus.

andersonCooper Aug 23, 2018 9:14 am


Originally Posted by dw (Post 30119828)
Amex has a new algorithm that assesses, prior to them doing a hard pull, whether you are "eligible" (using not only the written terms of the offer, but also their undisclosed internal assessment supposedly based on your history with them-- i.e. how many cards you have, how many you have had, your spending patterns,etc.). If it determines you are not, it gives you the option to just cancel the application.

As I am aware of the new algorithm, this card might be different, especially for current SPG card holders. The offer exclusion mostly include other issuers (Chase), instead of AMEX itself. So the system might just think the person card triggers the no offer again algorithm and deliver the ineligibility message. Just my guess though, not sure how AMEX IT works out...

PrivatePilot Aug 23, 2018 9:34 am

What SPG number are people putting on the application? The old one? the new one? the marriott number?

Safetravel3 Aug 23, 2018 10:05 am


Originally Posted by PrivatePilot (Post 30120234)
What SPG number are people putting on the application? The old one? the new one? the marriott number?

I guess any new, combined account number, either Marriott or SPG would do. They are all the same.


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