Jan 22, 2019, 11:55 pm
Last edit by: BobbySteel
Current Status of the Grandfathering Sweep to Lifetime Platinum Premier Elite / Lifetime Titanium Elite
As of 1/26 Members are reporting a SWEEP HAS OCCURRED LTPPE/LTitaniumE. Some have reported discrepancies between app and website still.
A sweep has also occurred of LTP qualifying from previous LTG on legacy rules.
Request: Please DO NOT post asking if the above has occurred or advising all of us that nothing has changed. Please continue reading this wiki for updates.
If you have legitimately been swept and your website account shows that you have truly been grandfathered to Lifetime Platinum Premier Elite, then yes please do add a post with this information with useful details for others and this wiki will then be updated accordingly with your information.
As of 1/26 Members are reporting a SWEEP HAS OCCURRED LTPPE/LTitaniumE. Some have reported discrepancies between app and website still.
A sweep has also occurred of LTP qualifying from previous LTG on legacy rules.
Request: Please DO NOT post asking if the above has occurred or advising all of us that nothing has changed. Please continue reading this wiki for updates.
If you have legitimately been swept and your website account shows that you have truly been grandfathered to Lifetime Platinum Premier Elite, then yes please do add a post with this information with useful details for others and this wiki will then be updated accordingly with your information.
Does anyone know when the sweep for LTPP will be happening?
Jan 7, 2019, 11:41 am
#61
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To add fuel to the fire, on both the site and app it states that have two nights so far this year, and I am 24 nights short of PPE status. Neither of which are true I think.
Jan 7, 2019, 12:24 pm
#62
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Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: South Florida
Programs: AA LTG (EXP), Hilton Silver (Dia), Marriott LTP (PP), SPG LTG (P) > MPG LTPP
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As I recall, Marriott has always been a bit wonky with their presentations between the end of the year and their final sweep(s). Different processes (app vs website vs CSR queries) pull data from different places and/or calculates what should be using different sources. This makes just about anything possible to be shown. So even with zero YTD nights showing you can also see 24 nights to PP status. My account is showing zero YTD nights (which is correct) and 72 nights to PP status, but I am PP status due to LT status (soon to be LTPP if all goes well). So my suggestion don't take anything too seriously until we know the sweeps are done.
Jan 8, 2019, 3:08 pm
#63
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: San Francisco, CA
Programs: SPG, Hyatt GP, UA 1K, WN RR
Posts: 7
I believe this is an Marriott IT bug *shocker*. I'm seeing this also and don't think I made LTPP. Note that it reads "Platinum Premier Lifetime Status" instead of "Lifetime Platinum Premier Status". There is speculation in the Choice Benefit thread that it is showing this for all PP that also hold LT status.
1. We've validated for those presumed LTPP (750 nights+ / 10+ years platinum) it shows this oddly crafted label.
2. Suggestions that from the Choice Benefit thread that this may also be showing up for PP that hold LTP status? Do any incidents come from members who have <750 nights and/or < 10 years platinum?
3. Does this also display for LTP members who aren't PP and have < 750 nights?
In the end we're just investing time to speculate, but would be curious none the less =)
Jan 8, 2019, 5:35 pm
#64
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Curious if anyone has dug further of this potential bug? Seems like we would need data points from multiple scenarios to theorize further on whether this is a leak or just a overlooked bug.
1. We've validated for those presumed LTPP (750 nights+ / 10+ years platinum) it shows this oddly crafted label.
2. Suggestions that from the Choice Benefit thread that this may also be showing up for PP that hold LTP status? Do any incidents come from members who have <750 nights and/or < 10 years platinum?
3. Does this also display for LTP members who aren't PP and have < 750 nights?
In the end we're just investing time to speculate, but would be curious none the less =)
1. We've validated for those presumed LTPP (750 nights+ / 10+ years platinum) it shows this oddly crafted label.
2. Suggestions that from the Choice Benefit thread that this may also be showing up for PP that hold LTP status? Do any incidents come from members who have <750 nights and/or < 10 years platinum?
3. Does this also display for LTP members who aren't PP and have < 750 nights?
In the end we're just investing time to speculate, but would be curious none the less =)
I am showing Platinum Premier Elite as I did over 75 nights in 2017. But I am still only showing Lifetime Platinum Elite instead of Lifetime Platinum Premier Elite.
I've waited this long, so I can wait a bit longer for the grandfathering to take into effect.
(But Marriott still sucks)
Jan 9, 2019, 12:56 pm
#66
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Based in Michigan, but I could be anywhere!
Programs: Hilton, American, Club Carlson, United, Marriott, Starwood
Posts: 409
I'm currently showing as Platinum Premier Elite, but only Lifetime Platinum Elite, so I haven't been "swept" yet. I'm sure I will be, eventually, given my stats...
Your lifetime statistics
Nights: 1309
Years as Silver, Gold or Platinum: 18
Years as Gold or Platinum: 14
Years as Platinum: 13
The App is throwing an error on the status page, but displaying the same info, so I presume both issues will resolve relatively concurrently.
Your lifetime statistics
Nights: 1309
Years as Silver, Gold or Platinum: 18
Years as Gold or Platinum: 14
Years as Platinum: 13
The App is throwing an error on the status page, but displaying the same info, so I presume both issues will resolve relatively concurrently.
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Jan 9, 2019, 9:46 pm
#67
Join Date: Dec 2010
Programs: Hilton Diamond, Marriott Titanium, Radisson Gold, Hyatt Globalist, M life Gold, IHG Spire
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If they're intending this to be a one-time sweep, they can't do it until the input data is complete.
First they have to wait for all 2018 stays to post.
Then they have to do the sweep to update lifetime year counters with 2018 qualifications.
Then they have to run the jobs for those qualifying in 2018 by legacy SPG rules (stays).
Only then can the run the LTPP job.
First they have to wait for all 2018 stays to post.
Then they have to do the sweep to update lifetime year counters with 2018 qualifications.
Then they have to run the jobs for those qualifying in 2018 by legacy SPG rules (stays).
Only then can the run the LTPP job.
Jan 9, 2019, 10:51 pm
#68
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Posts: 1,570
Jan 10, 2019, 6:11 am
#70
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Programs: AA lifetime GLD; UA Silver; Marriott LTTE; IHG Plat,
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But even with perfect IT on this job, some accounts will be missed. In particular, with 100 million plus accounts, there will be some stragglers. accounts earning the 750th night or 10th year close to 12/31 but delayed in posting due to human/hotel error. Possibilities to handle that are:
1. Rerun the batch job periodically for the next few months to pick up the stragglers.
2. Manual verification and promotion of the accounts.
3. The possibility of stragglers never occurred to them, so no plan yet to handle these cases. (hopefully not this)
Jan 10, 2019, 6:28 am
#72
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Any chance this "sweep" is tied to the launch of the new program that has been rumored? In which case it could well be delayed if that launch is delayed?
Jan 10, 2019, 6:36 am
#73
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It wouldn't surprise me if this is the plan, although let's not forget that Ambassador assignments were delayed by at least a month after the (arguably delayed) program combination on August 18th, so the LTPP sweep could be well after the start of BonVoy or whatever they ultimately call it. This would also have the advantage of helping to avoid some of the potential confusion between LTPP and lifetime titanium.
Jan 10, 2019, 8:50 am
#74
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But, but, but... The new program was launched on August 18, 2018. It's the name that is missing till later this year. All the new rules are in play and the sweep is intended to apply the old rules and assign new status where earned.
Jan 10, 2019, 11:25 am
#75
Join Date: Mar 2016
Posts: 5
I qualified Lifetime Platinum based on legacy rules in August (passed the MR point threshold). Lifetime status did not change (always assumed it would/will during the January sweep).
Was two nights short of PP for the year on December 24th (had 73 nights). Chase credit card points for the month were credited on December 28th but did not receive my "night credits" (I should have received two). Note: I have not "upgraded" my card because I wanted the night credits. Night credits just appeared this morning for 2019. Now I'm showing "2" nights for 2019. Wonder if the sweep will fix that and give me PP?
Was two nights short of PP for the year on December 24th (had 73 nights). Chase credit card points for the month were credited on December 28th but did not receive my "night credits" (I should have received two). Note: I have not "upgraded" my card because I wanted the night credits. Night credits just appeared this morning for 2019. Now I'm showing "2" nights for 2019. Wonder if the sweep will fix that and give me PP?