Oct 16, 2018, 2:12 am
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Merits of Marriott Hotels Strike 2018
Oct 3, 2018, 7:40 am
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Merits of Marriott Hotels Strike 2018
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Is there any coincidence that they're mostly Starwood properties plus the Ritz? Did the rest of the heritage-Marriott brands negotiate a separate contract with their unions pre-merger?
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Is there any coincidence that they're mostly Starwood properties plus the Ritz? Did the rest of the heritage-Marriott brands negotiate a separate contract with their unions pre-merger?
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Oct 3, 2018, 7:57 am
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I believe those are the only Marriott unionized hotels in Boston. For example, the large Marriott Copley Place is not unionized (although the Westin that is adjacent is).
Here is local 26’s list of unionized hotels:
https://www.local26.org/boston/
Here is local 26’s list of unionized hotels:
https://www.local26.org/boston/
Oct 3, 2018, 9:08 am
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Oct 3, 2018, 9:15 am
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Based on the reports, it is more of a broader issue within the industry around working conditions rather than something specific to these particular hotels. There is mention of robot housekeeping, self-service checkin, work schedule uncertainty etc.
Since MAR is the worlds biggest hotel chain, they decided to strike there, guess scale brings some downsides also
Since MAR is the worlds biggest hotel chain, they decided to strike there, guess scale brings some downsides also
Oct 3, 2018, 11:10 am
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Oct 3, 2018, 11:29 am
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Sorry, you're right. I'm booked at "The Envoy Boston Waterfront." Brand confusion (which in my defense is understandable with four gazillion brands in the new program.
Oct 3, 2018, 1:47 pm
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The fine print on this damn program must have generated a lot of billable hours for a sizable flock of writers, proofers, attorneys, and marketing people.
Oct 3, 2018, 4:15 pm
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I often hear cries that they want a living wage and don't want to have to work for tips... yet I was recently at a Seattle property where $15/hr is min wage and housekeeping was getting paid $17+/hr... and they were still expecting tips.
Oct 3, 2018, 10:42 pm
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Would you clean toilets for $17/hr? ... and do backbreaking work many hours a day for the same wage?
Oct 4, 2018, 12:16 am
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I've done that (and worse) for less before...and didn't complain about what I was getting paid. It was a good incentive to work smarter & harder, get some experience & education under my belt, and get a better job. Some weeks I was working 80-100 hours/week at that job.
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Oct 5, 2018, 4:35 am
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There will be a test next week where you must recite all 29 brands and the specific elite benefits associated with each, by region, and quoting any notable exceptions including the lists of hotels by brand that opt-out of benefits.
The fine print on this damn program must have generated a lot of billable hours for a sizable flock of writers, proofers, attorneys, and marketing people.
The fine print on this damn program must have generated a lot of billable hours for a sizable flock of writers, proofers, attorneys, and marketing people.
Not nearly enough hours were spent on such details, or maybe the problem was that Starriott hired incompetent writers, proofreaders, lawyers, etc. for the task.
Oct 5, 2018, 8:06 am
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Oct 5, 2018, 3:24 pm
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Oct 9, 2018, 7:05 am
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Try working at a tire store, one of the dirtiest jobs imaginable. I've also worked at lube and oil change, clean & painted apartments (which included cleaning the toilets), ski lift build/maint, drove a tow truck (AAA and police), and other hard, menial jobs for minimum wage. That was my incentive to work on a career and better myself.
Oct 9, 2018, 8:26 am
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I'm pretty certain that discussing the politics of union work is out of the scope of this thread. However, I checked into the St Francis last night at like 1am (picketers were limited at this point). At first they tried to give me a 5th floor room. I balked at that a bit and was then put into a 31st floor room, thankfully (glad the Plat Premier status is doing its thing). At 7am the horns, whistles etc... started and it is noisy despite the fact that I am 31 floors and one building away from the bulk of the protest. My business partner is in another part of the hotel and is distracted. Any of the old section of the hotel on Union Square is virtually useless.