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Old Oct 5, 2018, 3:54 pm
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Marriott's Best Rate Guarantee Discussion Thread

This thread is about Marriott's BRG. If you don't know what BRG is - here's the Marriott BRG and here's the claim form.
If you're not satisfied with the outcome of your claim and wish for a second review you may reply back by email or call Marriott's BRG hotline 1-800-771-5665. A human is available at this number beginning at 9 am EST.

If you are new to this, and would like to ask fellow FTers questions regarding BRGs, then this thread is the place to start.

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Old Sep 12, 2018, 3:17 pm
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Originally Posted by be_devine
After booking a Westin property, I found the same exact room for the same exact dates on Hotels.com. I printed out a copy of the Hotels.com price and submitted a claim. It took a day, and Marriott responded that they would not match the rate because the rate they found on Hotels.com was higher. I sent them the printout, and also looked on Hotels.com, and now an even lower rate was available (lower than Marriott). They responded by telling me that "we are unable to accept customer provided evidences for validating Best Rate Guarantee claims." So: they're ignoring the rate on Hotels.com and they're ignoring the evidence I'm providing them showing the rate I'm seeing.
And you're ignoring the rules of the LNF. A claim requires a verifiable link to the rate to be matched. Also, the rate and link must be available at the time it is researched by LNF (usually within 24 hours). Printouts, screen snips and PDFs can not be used to initiate a claim. They sometimes can be useful in clarifying a claim after the link has been verified.
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Old Sep 12, 2018, 3:41 pm
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Originally Posted by dayone
And you're ignoring the rules of the LNF. A claim requires a verifiable link to the rate to be matched. Also, the rate and link must be available at the time it is researched by LNF (usually within 24 hours). Printouts, screen snips and PDFs can not be used to initiate a claim. They sometimes can be useful in clarifying a claim after the link has been verified.
Well, do they accept it, when I book a cheaper rate on Expedia and give them access to this rate via the itinerary #? The process would be: First lock in the Marriott rate, then book the cheaper Expedia rate and then file the LNF and give them access to yr itinerary. Would that work even if they can't see the rate online anymore?, The LNF form says "lower rate found or RESERVED"...

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Old Sep 12, 2018, 3:55 pm
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Another result of the IT integration cock-up is that the BRG claim form is formatted only for Marriott reservation numbers. Starwood reservations have an additional digit. This kind of stuff just adds to the frustration we are all dealing with. Let the incompetence continue.
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Old Sep 12, 2018, 5:13 pm
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Originally Posted by flo_147
Well, do they accept it, when I book a cheaper rate on Expedia and give them access to this rate via the itinerary #?
In my experience, no. I've always been required to provide a link. LNF agents are very methodical. You bend to their process, not the other way around.
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Old Sep 12, 2018, 5:17 pm
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Originally Posted by tfong007
Starwood reservations have an additional digit.
Some have an additional digit (nine). Some, like my recent Aloft reservation have one fewer (seven).
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Old Sep 12, 2018, 5:42 pm
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Originally Posted by flo_147
Well, do they accept it, when I book a cheaper rate on Expedia and give them access to this rate via the itinerary #? The process would be: First lock in the Marriott rate, then book the cheaper Expedia rate and then file the LNF and give them access to yr itinerary. Would that work even if they can't see the rate online anymore?, The LNF form says "lower rate found or RESERVED"...
I was wondering this myself. How would you make the claim if you did also reserve on the other site?
Is this valid?
it would save me a lot of those back and forth emails.
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Old Sep 12, 2018, 6:03 pm
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Originally Posted by tfong007
Another result of the IT integration cock-up is that the BRG claim form is formatted only for Marriott reservation numbers. Starwood reservations have an additional digit. This kind of stuff just adds to the frustration we are all dealing with. Let the incompetence continue.
Originally Posted by dayone
Some have an additional digit (nine). Some, like my recent Aloft reservation have one fewer (seven).
The SPG reservation number seems very random.
Last night I made 2 individual nights booking at the same property for consecutive dates. The first reservation confirmation has 8 digits, the second one has 9 digits. I have to do a double take to make sure.
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Old Sep 12, 2018, 6:12 pm
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Originally Posted by Happy
The SPG reservation number seems very random.
Last night I made 2 individual nights booking at the same property for consecutive dates. The first reservation confirmation has 8 digits, the second one has 9 digits. I have to do a double take to make sure.
Most SPG reservations have 9 digits. I believe the ones with 7 or 8 digits should have 00 or 0 in front of them but the zeroes get dropped off.
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Old Sep 12, 2018, 6:18 pm
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Originally Posted by margarita girl
Most SPG reservations have 9 digits. I believe the ones with 7 or 8 digits should have 00 or 0 in front of them but the zeroes get dropped off.
You are right. I just went back to see the SPG reservations emails this year. All 16 of them except 1 last night, have had 9 digits. Why would their system generate 0 or 00 as preceding? Odd ball thing.
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Old Sep 12, 2018, 7:55 pm
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Originally Posted by be_devine
Bottom line: If you're looking for the best price, you're probably better off booking at another site than relying on Marriott's "Look No Further Guarantee."

After booking a Westin property, I found the same exact room for the same exact dates on Hotels.com. I printed out a copy of the Hotels.com price and submitted a claim. It took a day, and Marriott responded that they would not match the rate because the rate they found on Hotels.com was higher. I sent them the printout, and also looked on Hotels.com, and now an even lower rate was available (lower than Marriott). They responded by telling me that "we are unable to accept customer provided evidences for validating Best Rate Guarantee claims." So: they're ignoring the rate on Hotels.com and they're ignoring the evidence I'm providing them showing the rate I'm seeing. Great "Guarantee" and great customer service - ha!
Yeah somehow i think the processed is rigged.
Even if you found a lower price elsewhere (with screenshot evidence that is ignored) they would somehow respond with a one-liner saying their is still cheaper (without any screenshot evidence)
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Old Sep 12, 2018, 8:48 pm
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Originally Posted by be_devine
Bottom line: If you're looking for the best price, you're probably better off booking at another site than relying on Marriott's "Look No Further Guarantee."

After booking a Westin property, I found the same exact room for the same exact dates on Hotels.com. I printed out a copy of the Hotels.com price and submitted a claim. It took a day, and Marriott responded that they would not match the rate because the rate they found on Hotels.com was higher. I sent them the printout, and also looked on Hotels.com, and now an even lower rate was available (lower than Marriott). They responded by telling me that "we are unable to accept customer provided evidences for validating Best Rate Guarantee claims." So: they're ignoring the rate on Hotels.com and they're ignoring the evidence I'm providing them showing the rate I'm seeing. Great "Guarantee" and great customer service - ha!
I strongly disagree with this. 90% of my stays are brg/lnf.
It's a legit program but at time you will meet someone who does not process the claim properly.

What I have learn is, instead of wasting time to argue, just resubmit another claim.
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Old Sep 13, 2018, 5:41 am
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Just respond back to their email with exact instructions how you found the rate including device you used.
Eventually they will see what you see.
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Old Sep 13, 2018, 5:58 am
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What happens when a claim is not approved/denied within 24 hours?

I am not 100% sure but in past it got approved anyway if it takes longer than 24 hours
(even when the claim was wrong or the comparisson rate not available).
Is it still the same or has this rule changed.
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Old Sep 13, 2018, 6:02 am
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Originally Posted by shevboyz
I strongly disagree with this. 90% of my stays are brg/lnf.
It's a legit program but at time you will meet someone who does not process the claim properly.

What I have learn is, instead of wasting time to argue, just resubmit another claim.
Totally agreed.

I just returned from a 3 night stay at the StR Florence BRG at 280EUR per night vs a standard rate of around 800-950EUR.

Have just booked another stay for next year at 275EUR.

Only issues I've ever encountered were with Japanese properties and the 25% tax rate. Resubmitting and being extremely clear on price breakdown helped.

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Old Sep 13, 2018, 8:47 pm
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Submitted a new claim and got this reply. Website works for me here in Asia but “blocked” for the agents (where are they based anyway? US?)

I am denying your claim because I am unable to access Amoma.com and I cannot verify that a lower rate is available on the comparison site you submitted.
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