May 9, 2018, 11:36 am
Last edit by: rny321
PATHWAYS TO LIFETIME PLATINUM PREMIER ELITE STATUS:
1. Legacy Marriott Lifetime Platinum - 750 [MR+SPG] nights & 2MM Marriott Rewards points earned - not available after 1/1/2019
2. New Combined Program - 750 [MR+SPG] nights & 10 years combined/total as Platinum members previously under MR and/or SPG as of 12/31/2018 - not available after 1/1/2019
From members.marriott.com:
NOTE: Members that reach 750 nights and 10 years at Platinum by December 31, 2018 will be grandfathered into Lifetime Platinum Premier Elite status (notified January 2019).
FAQ from members.marriott.com
Q: CAN I EARN LIFETIME STATUS UNDER THE LEGACY REQUIREMENTS (ACTIVE PRIOR TO AUGUST 2018) FOR LIFETIME ELITE STATUS IN MARRIOTT REWARDS, RITZ-CARLTON REWARDS OR SPG? IF SO, WHEN WILL I BE NOTIFIED OF MY LIFETIME ELITE STATUS?
A: Yes, in addition to earning based on the new criteria, members can earn Lifetime Elite Status under the legacy requirements through the end of 2018. If Lifetime status is achieved by legacy requirements, between August and December 31, 2018 you will receive notice of your updated Lifetime Elite status in January 2019. If Lifetime status is achieved based on the new criteria, you will be notified both in August 2018 as well as any time it is achieved through the end of the year.
Example: An SPG member has 300 Lifetime nights, 4 years of Gold Elite Status, and 1 year of Platinum Elite Status after August, 2018. Under the SPG legacy Lifetime requirements, this member would earn Lifetime Gold Elite status which would reflect in their account January 2019.
Q: IF I WILL NOT BE GRANDFATHERED INTO LIFETIME PLATINUM PREMIER ELITE, WILL I HAVE THE ABILITY TO EARN INTO THIS LEVEL IN 2018?
A: Yes, members can earn Lifetime Platinum Premier Elite in 2018 if they achieve 750 Lifetime nights and 10 years at Platinum Elite status. This requirement is only for 2018 and will not be continued in future years. Members will receive notice of this Lifetime achievement in January 2019.
1. Legacy Marriott Lifetime Platinum - 750 [MR+SPG] nights & 2MM Marriott Rewards points earned - not available after 1/1/2019
2. New Combined Program - 750 [MR+SPG] nights & 10 years combined/total as Platinum members previously under MR and/or SPG as of 12/31/2018 - not available after 1/1/2019
From members.marriott.com:
NOTE: Members that reach 750 nights and 10 years at Platinum by December 31, 2018 will be grandfathered into Lifetime Platinum Premier Elite status (notified January 2019).
FAQ from members.marriott.com
Q: CAN I EARN LIFETIME STATUS UNDER THE LEGACY REQUIREMENTS (ACTIVE PRIOR TO AUGUST 2018) FOR LIFETIME ELITE STATUS IN MARRIOTT REWARDS, RITZ-CARLTON REWARDS OR SPG? IF SO, WHEN WILL I BE NOTIFIED OF MY LIFETIME ELITE STATUS?
A: Yes, in addition to earning based on the new criteria, members can earn Lifetime Elite Status under the legacy requirements through the end of 2018. If Lifetime status is achieved by legacy requirements, between August and December 31, 2018 you will receive notice of your updated Lifetime Elite status in January 2019. If Lifetime status is achieved based on the new criteria, you will be notified both in August 2018 as well as any time it is achieved through the end of the year.
Example: An SPG member has 300 Lifetime nights, 4 years of Gold Elite Status, and 1 year of Platinum Elite Status after August, 2018. Under the SPG legacy Lifetime requirements, this member would earn Lifetime Gold Elite status which would reflect in their account January 2019.
Q: IF I WILL NOT BE GRANDFATHERED INTO LIFETIME PLATINUM PREMIER ELITE, WILL I HAVE THE ABILITY TO EARN INTO THIS LEVEL IN 2018?
A: Yes, members can earn Lifetime Platinum Premier Elite in 2018 if they achieve 750 Lifetime nights and 10 years at Platinum Elite status. This requirement is only for 2018 and will not be continued in future years. Members will receive notice of this Lifetime achievement in January 2019.
SPG Lifetime Platinums Can Now Qualify For Lifetime Titanium Status
May 18, 2018, 5:39 am
#361
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: LGA/JFK/EWR
Programs: UA 1K1.75MM, Hyatt Globalist, abandoned Marriott LTT (RIP SPG), Hertz PC
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The add'l scenario of 750 NIGHTS combined between the two programs seems likely, but is not yet confirmed.
May 18, 2018, 7:34 am
#362
Join Date: Aug 2010
Programs: Hilton Diamond, Marriott Ambassador
Posts: 78
Currently I have 602 SPG nights and 11 years Platinum. I also have 60 Marriott nights and 1 year of Platinum that I received this year by virtue of being Platinum with SPG. So this puts me at 662 lifetime nights between the 2 programs as well as 10+ years of Platinum status.
I have at least another 50 nights with SPG and another 15 nights with Marriott scheduled for this year. This will take me to around 730 combined nights by the end of this year. I can easily get another 20 nights if combined nights between the 2 programs will count. If they won't then I'll be around 100 nights short at the end of the year & there is no way I would be able to cover that up.
It would be great to get an official word from the Lurkers on this. I'm sure they don't have a confirmed answer to this yet otherwise they would have answered it by now. I'm just hoping we get confirmation soon so that I can plan accordingly.
May 18, 2018, 7:51 am
#363
Join Date: May 2003
Location: LCY
Programs: SQ Krisflyer, QR Privilege Club, MB LT Plt (1K+ nights thx MB)
Posts: 1,038
The combined 750 nights bit is something I'm waiting for confirmation on as well.
Currently I have 602 SPG nights and 11 years Platinum. I also have 60 Marriott nights and 1 year of Platinum that I received this year by virtue of being Platinum with SPG. So this puts me at 662 lifetime nights between the 2 programs as well as 10+ years of Platinum status.
I have at least another 50 nights with SPG and another 15 nights with Marriott scheduled for this year. This will take me to around 730 combined nights by the end of this year. I can easily get another 20 nights if combined nights between the 2 programs will count. If they won't then I'll be around 100 nights short at the end of the year & there is no way I would be able to cover that up.
It would be great to get an official word from the Lurkers on this. I'm sure they don't have a confirmed answer to this yet otherwise they would have answered it by now. I'm just hoping we get confirmation soon so that I can plan accordingly.
Currently I have 602 SPG nights and 11 years Platinum. I also have 60 Marriott nights and 1 year of Platinum that I received this year by virtue of being Platinum with SPG. So this puts me at 662 lifetime nights between the 2 programs as well as 10+ years of Platinum status.
I have at least another 50 nights with SPG and another 15 nights with Marriott scheduled for this year. This will take me to around 730 combined nights by the end of this year. I can easily get another 20 nights if combined nights between the 2 programs will count. If they won't then I'll be around 100 nights short at the end of the year & there is no way I would be able to cover that up.
It would be great to get an official word from the Lurkers on this. I'm sure they don't have a confirmed answer to this yet otherwise they would have answered it by now. I'm just hoping we get confirmation soon so that I can plan accordingly.
May 18, 2018, 8:03 am
#364
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: DEN
Programs: UA 1P-1MM, Marriott LT Titanium
Posts: 3,930
One scenario I want to confirmed or denied is if you have 750+ SPG nights + 666 667 SPG points if that would qualify for LTPP. My motivation would be that you actually met the MR criteria but under your SPG account, why would you not qualify? In fairness a MR account meeting the SPG criteria should also be grandfathered. I bet there are a million reasons why not you should not qualify but fairness is not one of them. I think that the biggest problem facing this scenario is the poor tracking of points accumulatuion for SPG accounts prior to 2003. Get real MAR you can't punish loyal customers and getting perceived as biased because of poor IT management...
May 18, 2018, 8:10 am
#365
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: BDU
Programs: DL:MM, Marriott:LTT
Posts: 8,779
You exceed ten years on the SPG side so this does not matter for your circumstance, but just to be clear, a year at Marriott Plat because of a link or status match from SPG does not count as a year of Plat for LT purposes. Had you qualified under both programs each program would count separately, but Plat by virtue of that status match alone does not count.
May 18, 2018, 8:22 am
#366
Join Date: May 2003
Location: LCY
Programs: SQ Krisflyer, QR Privilege Club, MB LT Plt (1K+ nights thx MB)
Posts: 1,038
Nothing from Marriott has indicated that you would be able to use this scenario to achieve LTP or LTPP. They have been pretty clear that the only ways to get LTPP involve MR LTP and the new combined nights and years scenario. There may be some questions on the nights and years scenario, but the combined nights and combined points scenario doesn't seem to exist anywhere other than here on FT.
Last edited by X-ON; May 18, 2018 at 8:30 am
May 18, 2018, 8:38 am
#367
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: DEN
Programs: UA 1P-1MM, Marriott LT Titanium
Posts: 3,930
Nothing has suggested that as a route either. They have been clear on the ways that you qualify for lifetime status and nights+points in the SPG program has never been mentioned by Marriott. I guess that I'm assuming you don't have 10 years SPG Plat to qualify that way, or you would already be SPG LTP and would qualify for LTPP with the 750 nights and 10 years plat criteria.
May 18, 2018, 8:59 am
#368
Join Date: May 2003
Location: LCY
Programs: SQ Krisflyer, QR Privilege Club, MB LT Plt (1K+ nights thx MB)
Posts: 1,038
Nothing has suggested that as a route either. They have been clear on the ways that you qualify for lifetime status and nights+points in the SPG program has never been mentioned by Marriott. I guess that I'm assuming you don't have 10 years SPG Plat to qualify that way, or you would already be SPG LTP and would qualify for LTPP with the 750 nights and 10 years plat criteria.
May 18, 2018, 9:10 am
#369
Join Date: Mar 2010
Posts: 1,324
The plan as of today for current MR LTP is your LTPP will start in August 2018. If for example someone is short MR LTP by 20,000 points or has only 9 yrs Platinum and they earn the 20,000 points or 10th year Platinum in Sep 2018 they will have to wait until Jan 2019 to be notified of LTPP status.
May 18, 2018, 9:53 am
#370
Company Representative - Starwood
Join Date: Nov 2000
Location: Austin, Texas
Programs: Marriott Employee Level
Posts: 31,593
Since it has not been suggested I raised this scenario to the wiki. My motivation is one of LT activity neutrality, i.e. in order to put all members from different programs on the same footing BEFORE you merge the program, all members (MR and SPG) should be subject to both the LT activity valuation function of BOTH programs. This because the merged program follows the SPG valuation function and MR members was NOT exposed to SPG LT valuation function in order to determine their initial tier in the merged program, hence that should also apply to SPG members if your ambition is to value the LT activity between the two legacy programs fairly. But as you point out MAR has not mentioned this scenario at all so probably they don't have such an ambition of valuation of LT activity fairly I can only hope they change their mind.,
Best regards,
William R. Sanders
Social Media Specialist
Starwood Hotels & Resorts LLC
[email protected]
May 18, 2018, 10:21 am
#371
Join Date: May 2003
Location: LCY
Programs: SQ Krisflyer, QR Privilege Club, MB LT Plt (1K+ nights thx MB)
Posts: 1,038
B6g is answered.
Best regards,
William R. Sanders
Social Media Specialist
Starwood Hotels & Resorts LLC
[email protected]
Best regards,
William R. Sanders
Social Media Specialist
Starwood Hotels & Resorts LLC
[email protected]
May 18, 2018, 3:16 pm
#373
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Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: Minneapolis: DL DM charter 2.3MM
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Posts: 100,413
True in the new combined program: PP (75+ nights) get 75% bonus points while Plat (50+ nights) only gets 50%, so it's really 16.67% more points than Plats will get (assuming no credit card points). I'm guessing that this starts in August. Currently MR Plats (75+ nights) and MR PP (invitation only unpublished level) get 50% bonus points, but current MR Plats become PP in the new program in August AFAIK.
May 18, 2018, 3:24 pm
#374
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: BDU
Programs: DL:MM, Marriott:LTT
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May 18, 2018, 3:31 pm
#375
Join Date: May 2007
Location: MCI/ORD/CDG
Programs: AA Exec Plat, Marriott Lifetime Titanium
Posts: 771
It has been listed on the members.Marriott site benefits page since the day of the April announcement. If you scroll down on that page you will see a chart showing the benefits for each level. The chart clearly shows PP gets 75% bonus points while P gets 50%.