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Old Jan 15, 2019, 9:52 pm
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Originally Posted by ClimbingCook
The only thing my ambassador has been able to do for me has been to credit a stay that didn't post properly. All other requests have gone nowhere.
Originally Posted by rezrez12
My ambassador finally responded to me after ignoring me for the latter 1/2 of December. She said that she usually tries to respond within 2-3 days. That’s sounds crazy to me with the amount I travel and the last minute changes and requests.

Does that seem reasonable to others? I feel like I have just been unlucky with my ambassador.

The lurker did reach out to me and forwarded my information, we will see if anything changes going forward.

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Old Jan 16, 2019, 3:08 am
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Another reference point. My ambassador mentioned she went from 150 clients to 350 since the merger. Also that all systems are changing and that they have to spend a lot of time posting stays and that they are a lot less powerful since the merger...
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Old Jan 16, 2019, 7:02 am
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Originally Posted by canael
Another reference point. My ambassador mentioned she went from 150 clients to 350 since the merger. Also that all systems are changing and that they have to spend a lot of time posting stays and that they are a lot less powerful since the merger...
350 is ridiculous. I have a half-dozen clients that I actively work with and charge a $175 per hour billable rate and even then I can't always return every email within 24 hours, unless I stay in the office late.
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Old Jan 16, 2019, 7:58 am
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Thumbs down Problems with Ambassador Program- WORTHLESS?

I have been Ambassador level with Marriott since early December. I have been lifetime Platinum for at least 5 years now and Platinum Preferred for years. I have not as of yet heard a lick from my Ambassador. I have called SEVERAL times asking my Ambassador to reach out to me and I have even requested a change of Ambassadors but have not had any luck with any of it. What's the point of a perk if you can't use it? I would like to see Marriott extend my Ambassador membership by a month as I feel that ive wasted one so far but the motivation to make Ambassador again isn't there at this point. Why offer a SPECIAL level of service when it isn't even available? My apologies if this new post is redundant but ive searched and couldn't find one on this service. I've heard from other Ambassador level members who have had similar results.

Marriott who's asleep at the wheel?

UPDATE: The Ambassador manager contacted me today and told me that my experience was unacceptable and would be providing me with a new one and hopefully a much better experience.
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Old Jan 16, 2019, 8:11 am
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Thumbs down Better Title - has anyone had any GOOD experiences with Ambassadors?

I can't post to that one. Ive been an Ambassador since early December and not only haven't I heard from my Ambassador but Ive not heard back from anyone at the Ambassador program after making at least 4 calls complaining that my Ambassador hasn't reached out and asking that I have a new one assigned to me. Some of you must be very lucky to be getting any contact. I don't expect ANYTHING special as I don't even get a call. Not exactly motivation to achieve this level again next year.
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Old Jan 16, 2019, 9:37 am
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Positive Ambassador Experience

I just had a really good experience with an ambassador. I’m LPP and also have ambassador. I had a reservation at the W London that I accidentally made a week prior to travel. The rate was prepaid and non refundable.

Up up until my call, I had not heard from my ambassador (qualified last October - no email or any communication from my ambassador). When I called the platinum line and explained the situation the agent said there was nothing that could be done about the prepaid rate; I would lose the $1k+ prepaid money and need to make a new booking for the following week on the dates that I actually needed. I told her that there had to be something she could do; she said no. I then told her that I am supposed to have an ambassador and I requested to talk to them. She tried to reach out to my assign ambassador to get him on the line, but he didn’t answer. She did put me on the line with another ambassador, though.

I again explained the situation to the ambassador and told her the dates I needed. She asked me to hold while she looked to see what could be done. When she came back on the line she said that she got the reservation moved to the dates that I needed and that the rate was less for the new dates. Since the reservation was prepaid, I would have a credit at the hotel to spend on f&b or other incidentals.

I couldn’t have asked for anything more. I explained my situation and the ambassador executed to fix the problem without me needing to add further explanation or discussion. There was no arguing or pleading; just good old fashioned customer service and an agent working to do the right thing for a loyal customer. This is how customer service should be handled.
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Old Jan 16, 2019, 9:59 am
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I have had an Ambassador since November 2017. She has provided excellent service. However, there seems to be more lag time between communications. If I want something, I ask immediately and if something is urgent, I make sure that I highlight it.

I have utilized my Ambassador more since August 18 to correct problems (not getting folios emailed, wrong point redemptions, stay credits etc) that I did not experience prior.

I am sure other Ambassador level members have experienced similar issues.
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Old Jan 16, 2019, 12:30 pm
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My Ambassador Experience

I've had an ambassador since the merger. My experience is that when my stays don't credit properly my ambassador is able to have them credited within a few days. Other than that the service has been worthless. Out of 100+ nights since the merger I've not been recognized as anything beyond platinum and on the one stay that I requested a nice room through my ambassador, I was not recognized as having any status and was given a terrible room at check-in. I returned to the front desk after noting online that there were many upgraded rooms and suites available for the 2 nights I was staying. When I requested to either pay to upgrade to an available suite or reserve a suite in addition to my original room they did upgrade me to an available suite without a fee (after noting I was a platinum member). It was clear from my interaction with the FD staff that either my ambassador did not contact the hotel or the hotel ignored their contact. So if/when the I.T. systems begin to function properly without a significant change to the program the ambassador service will have no value to me.

I understand that there are specific instances of guests on this board receiving very good service from their Ambassadors, but even they must realize that personalized service cannot be provided by a single point of contact who services 300+ frequent guests. Even if the average guest only has 20 stays per year (5 nights per stay on average) then each Ambassador would be tracking 6000 stays per year. And I believe that to be a very conservative number. If all guests were like me, then each ambassador would be tracking 15,000 stays per year.

Let me be clear. I do not blame the ambassador. I blame the management of the program.
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Old Jan 16, 2019, 12:44 pm
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Originally Posted by jsmilton
I've had an ambassador since the merger. My experience is that when my stays don't credit properly my ambassador is able to have them credited within a few days. Other than that the service has been worthless. Out of 100+ nights since the merger I've not been recognized as anything beyond platinum and on the one stay that I requested a nice room through my ambassador, I was not recognized as having any status and was given a terrible room at check-in. I returned to the front desk after noting online that there were many upgraded rooms and suites available for the 2 nights I was staying. When I requested to either pay to upgrade to an available suite or reserve a suite in addition to my original room they did upgrade me to an available suite without a fee (after noting I was a platinum member). It was clear from my interaction with the FD staff that either my ambassador did not contact the hotel or the hotel ignored their contact. So if/when the I.T. systems begin to function properly without a significant change to the program the ambassador service will have no value to me.

I understand that there are specific instances of guests on this board receiving very good service from their Ambassadors, but even they must realize that personalized service cannot be provided by a single point of contact who services 300+ frequent guests. Even if the average guest only has 20 stays per year (5 nights per stay on average) then each Ambassador would be tracking 6000 stays per year. And I believe that to be a very conservative number. If all guests were like me, then each ambassador would be tracking 15,000 stays per year.

Let me be clear. I do not blame the ambassador. I blame the management of the program.
I'm hopeful service will be better after February 13. It should as (a) Ambassador will be a separate status recognized at the hotels and (b) the number of individuals who have ambassadors will drop on Feb 1.

I do think your stay number is very conservative. I have 125 actual nights a year but it is close to 100 different stays ... so they number could be 30,000 says if they are supporting 300 guests.
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Old Jan 16, 2019, 12:51 pm
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Everything has gone downhill since the merger. My Ambassador used to be responsive - now when I write I often get someone else answering apologising for this and that - it's like there is now a pool or round robin.

Pointless service that doesn't work, dull promotions and just a general all round bad feeling. I am staying at Hilton's when and where ever possible. Until this shambles get sorted out then I am voting with my feet
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Old Jan 16, 2019, 1:15 pm
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Originally Posted by jsmilton
I've had an ambassador since the merger. My experience is that when my stays don't credit properly my ambassador is able to have them credited within a few days. Other than that the service has been worthless. Out of 100+ nights since the merger I've not been recognized as anything beyond platinum and on the one stay that I requested a nice room through my ambassador, I was not recognized as having any status and was given a terrible room at check-in. I returned to the front desk after noting online that there were many upgraded rooms and suites available for the 2 nights I was staying. When I requested to either pay to upgrade to an available suite or reserve a suite in addition to my original room they did upgrade me to an available suite without a fee (after noting I was a platinum member). It was clear from my interaction with the FD staff that either my ambassador did not contact the hotel or the hotel ignored their contact. So if/when the I.T. systems begin to function properly without a significant change to the program the ambassador service will have no value to me.

I understand that there are specific instances of guests on this board receiving very good service from their Ambassadors, but even they must realize that personalized service cannot be provided by a single point of contact who services 300+ frequent guests. Even if the average guest only has 20 stays per year (5 nights per stay on average) then each Ambassador would be tracking 6000 stays per year. And I believe that to be a very conservative number. If all guests were like me, then each ambassador would be tracking 15,000 stays per year.

Let me be clear. I do not blame the ambassador. I blame the management of the program.
I think your expectations are different than mine. That may constitute part of your challenge.

I agree that too many Ambassadors likely have too many guests since the Aug 18 integration, but I also agree that those numbers should decrease after the Feb 1 drop off. I also believe that Marriott is hiring more Ambassadors.

I had 240+ total nights last year. I’ll guess that 150+ or so were BIB nights.

Most of my nights are for work travel at Sheraton, Westin, Le Méridien, Four Points, Renaissance, Courtyard. I almost never bother my Ambassador for any of these work stays. I’m alone, so upgrades aren’t as important to me. Yet I probably still was upgraded almost 100% to a better room, and maybe 75% actually to suites. The FD almost never “recognized me” as Ambassador but I still got upgraded. So I could care less what the FD calls me or what my key envelope indicates. It’s likely that my Ambassdor made some impact on some, but more were likely because I was a repeat guest and because I made sure to inform them of my Ambassador status—politely.

You seem to want Ambassador recognition at the front desk. That rarely happens for me, nor do I care much at all about that. And yet I’m still very pleased by my results. The new Bonvoy recognition of Ambassador as a separate elite tier may help you, fortunately.

My leisure nights are mostly at StR. LuxColl, and RC. I always reach out to my Ambassador for these, especially if I’m traveling with my husband or family. I probably was upgraded % to a better room, and maybe 60-70% actually to suites. I’d say 25-30% were upgrades to specialty suites not normally offered for regular Platinums.

Of course, I strategically choose stays at times in he low or shoulder season, and almost always outside of holiday and peak periods. So occupancy is usually a bit lower than average and therefore my chances already were better for upgrades. I also am well aware before booking how many suites a hotel has so I can better set my expectations. My choices therefore go a long way to helping my Ambassador to better help me. I’m part of the effort, too.

I don’t bother or expect much from my Ambassador for most of my stays. If you do, you inadvertently may dilute your Ambassador‘s chance and inclination to make more impact when it’s really most important to you. Pick your battles rather than making your Ambassador wage war at every hotel.

Your stays might be at times of higher occupancy. Your stays may be at hotels with fewer suites available. Your stays may be at hotels that aren’t as well managed. All of those mightily contribute to or detract from the overall Ambassador experience.

You seem to recognize already that not every hotel is as good at executing Ambassador requests. That will improve, but there always will be hotels that are better managed than others. And there always will be hotels that are better at elite recognition than others. Being aware can be very helpful.
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Old Jan 16, 2019, 3:09 pm
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I think your expectations are different than mine. That may constitute part of your challenge.

I agree that too many Ambassadors likely have too many guests since the Aug 18 integration, but I also agree that those numbers should decrease after the Feb 1 drop off. I also believe that Marriott is hiring more Ambassadors.

I had 240+ total nights last year. I’ll guess that 150+ or so were BIB nights.

Most of my nights are for work travel at Sheraton, Westin, Le Méridien, Four Points, Renaissance, Courtyard. I almost never bother my Ambassador for any of these work stays. I’m alone, so upgrades aren’t as important to me. Yet I probably still was upgraded almost 100% to a better room, and maybe 75% actually to suites. The FD almost never “recognized me” as Ambassador but I still got upgraded. So I could care less what the FD calls me or what my key envelope indicates. It’s likely that my Ambassdor made some impact on some, but more were likely because I was a repeat guest and because I made sure to inform them of my Ambassador status—politely.

You seem to want Ambassador recognition at the front desk. That rarely happens for me, nor do I care much at all about that. And yet I’m still very pleased by my results. The new Bonvoy recognition of Ambassador as a separate elite tier may help you, fortunately.

My leisure nights are mostly at StR. LuxColl, and RC. I always reach out to my Ambassador for these, especially if I’m traveling with my husband or family. I probably was upgraded % to a better room, and maybe 60-70% actually to suites. I’d say 25-30% were upgrades to specialty suites not normally offered for regular Platinums.

Of course, I strategically choose stays at times in he low or shoulder season, and almost always outside of holiday and peak periods. So occupancy is usually a bit lower than average and therefore my chances already were better for upgrades. I also am well aware before booking how many suites a hotel has so I can better set my expectations. My choices therefore go a long way to helping my Ambassador to better help me. I’m part of the effort, too.

I don’t bother or expect much from my Ambassador for most of my stays. If you do, you inadvertently may dilute your Ambassador‘s chance and inclination to make more impact when it’s really most important to you. Pick your battles rather than making your Ambassador wage war at every hotel.

Your stays might be at times of higher occupancy. Your stays may be at hotels with fewer suites available. Your stays may be at hotels that aren’t as well managed. All of those mightily contribute to or detract from the overall Ambassador experience.

You seem to recognize already that not every hotel is as good at executing Ambassador requests. That will improve, but there always will be hotels that are better managed than others. And there always will be hotels that are better at elite recognition than others. Being aware can be very helpful.
When I mentioned "specific instances of guests receiving very good service from their ambassador" in my original post, I would say you are a prime example of someone who through hard-work, good fortune or their impressive history with Flyertalk clearly experiences unusually good service from their ambassador and Marriott. I consider your experience to be an outlier and as such not a good predictor of what the average ambassador member experiences.

As for my travel plans. I had about 200 paid ($50k+) BIB nights with Marriott/Starwood hotels so I would suggest there were ample opportunities for my ambassador to make an effort to make one stay seem different from all the others. I book suites when available so upgrades are generally not very important. I suppose that is why the stay referenced above was so disappointing. I booked a standard room to see if I would receive the benefits outlined in the marketing materials and did not. In fact I was given one of the worst rooms in the hotel and only ended up in a suite because I offered to pay for it. And to be clear, I did alert my Ambassador to the special nature of this trip and it was one of only 3 requests I made of them in the 100+ nights since they became my Ambassador. The other two requests were for stay credits that did not post to my account.

My point is that Marriott, at least in my case is promoting a status with no discernible benefit. And if the Ambassador program is only useful for luxury hotels stays in the low season perhaps the Ambassador should include that caveat when they welcome new members to the program.

I'm sure I will re-qualify for Ambassador for 2020 however I anticipate my nights will be a more even split between Marriott and Hilton(65 BIB nights in 2018) for no other reason than I'm annoyed. Hopefully you are correct and the number of guests per Ambassador becomes more reasonable and the personalized service that is promised materializes. If the service changes for the better I will certainly return to these forums to let people know.
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Old Jan 16, 2019, 3:31 pm
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Originally Posted by jsmilton
When I mentioned "specific instances of guests receiving very good service from their ambassador" in my original post, I would say you are a prime example of someone who through hard-work, good fortune or their impressive history with Flyertalk clearly experiences unusually good service from their ambassador and Marriott. I consider your experience to be an outlier and as such not a good predictor of what the average ambassador member experiences.
I think my expectations are more in line with the reality of what Ambassador means and what it can offer. I think some have mistaken expectations, and that causes a lot of unnecessary heartache.

As for my travel plans. I had about 200 paid ($50k+) BIB nights with Marriott/Starwood hotels so I would suggest there were ample opportunities for my ambassador to make an effort to make one stay seem different from all the others. I book suites when available so upgrades are generally not very important. I suppose that is why the stay referenced above was so disappointing. I booked a standard room to see if I would receive the benefits outlined in the marketing materials and did not. In fact I was given one of the worst rooms in the hotel and only ended up in a suite because I offered to pay for it. And to be clear, I did alert my Ambassador to the special nature of this trip and it was one of only 3 requests I made of them in the 100+ nights since they became my Ambassador. The other two requests were for stay credits that did not post to my account.
Details do matter. To help, can I ask which hotel it was that put you in one of its worst standard rooms before you asked about and got upgraded to the suite?

Also, you don't have a big sample size from which to draw conclusions with only 3 requests of your Ambassador! That was your sole example of an Ambassador upgrade request, so 0 of 1 doesn't exactly tell much of a tale. And in the end, it's worth noting that you did get it--even if you did have to ask for it. You likely did get it because you are Ambassador status.

You already book suites for the most part. So you aren't allowing for one of the biggest perks of having Ambassador status--getting a suite upgrade. Not a knock, of course--just a statement of fact. Of course, if you already book suites, you can find solace in any hotel group that offers the types of hotels that you like in the locations you need. That might be very freeing!

My point is that Marriott, at least in my case is promoting a status with no discernible benefit.
Actually, the benefits are (1) the Ambassador AND (2) the Ambassador status. The new Bonvoy program is making what has always been true more obvious: that Ambassador is not just a benefit but also is an elite status tier in its own right. Only you can ascertain whether those benefits are worth the effort and spend for you.

And if the Ambassador program is only useful for luxury hotels stays in the low season perhaps the Ambassador should include that caveat when they welcome new members to the program.
This is one of those things where YMMV. There are many occasions when a Four Points or Sheraton or Westin or Renaissance has upgraded me to a suite, even if that won't happen nearly as often as at a St Regis or Luxury Collection hotel because (1) Four Points et al usually don't have that many suites, and (2) St Regis and many other luxury hotels usually are better at elite recognition. And yet Ritz-Carlton and Edition, despite being luxury, do not have the history of elite recognition that StR and W do. Your choice of hotels matters. Hopefully, in time, the Ritz-Carlton and Edition brands will do better for Tiitaniums and Ambassadors. The Ritz-Carlton Kyoto already does in spades. The Ritz-Carlton San Francisco doesn't yet. Different hotels behave differently. It isn't all about the hotels being luxury, even as I remind everyone that luxury hotels have the highest average proportion of suites available for suite upgrades, thereby elevating your chances compared to other segments ON AVERAGE.

I'm sure I will re-qualify for Ambassador for 2020 however I anticipate my nights will be a more even split between Marriott and Hilton(65 BIB nights in 2018) for no other reason than I'm annoyed. Hopefully you are correct and the number of guests per Ambassador becomes more reasonable and the personalized service that is promised materializes. If the service changes for the better I will certainly return to these forums to let people know.
I certainly hope your Ambassador experience improves, just as I hope that for everyone who qualifies. I suspect once the $20K spending threshold hits, the Ambassador experience will improve for almost everyone. in the end, though, only you can determine its worth to you. If you don't think it's worth it, then you can spend more with Hilton or Hyatt.

Good luck!
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Old Jan 16, 2019, 5:06 pm
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Originally Posted by jsmilton

As for my travel plans. I had about 200 paid ($50k+) BIB nights with Marriott/Starwood hotels

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I'm sure I will re-qualify for Ambassador for 2020 however I anticipate my nights will be a more even split between Marriott and Hilton(65 BIB nights in 2018) for no other reason than I'm annoyed.
Does Hyatt not work for you? If I had 200 paid nights and $50,000 in spend every year I wouldn't give Marriott a paid night and a single penny over 100 nights and $20,000. It's not like spending $25,000 and staying 125 nights gets you additional suite upgrade certificates or bonus points.

What about IHG's Intercontinental and the ambassador status there? Your spend should qualify for this program.

You should send an email to Marriott.

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Old Jan 16, 2019, 5:58 pm
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I'm having mostly good experiences lately. On one hand, I wanted to check on a the value between a point/confirmed upgrade vs a paid suite for a particular stay. I called my Omaha based ambassador, who answered the phone and greeted me by name. I explained the question, she asked whether I would like to stay on hold while she contacted the hotel, or would prefer to be called back. I stayed on the line, she sorted it out, noted that it was a birthday for a friend stay, and said she will request the hotel to do something. I'll report back on that.

On the other hand, I checked in at a Marriott that I stay at a few times a year and was greeted as an ambassador at check in. I received an upgrade to a higher floor .... even though suites showed available on the app ... and I'd guess were actually available since there was less than 10 people in the concierge lounge on the times I was in there.

So, I'm still seeing service delivery on the Omaha end but inconsistency at the property level.
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