Kalboz

But pretty much both, the 4P and Aloft, are located in a very seedy area of lower Sukhumvit. Go further! The Marriott Sukhumvit 57 has more or less the same distance from BTS (Thong Lo) as the 4P (Asok or Nana) in a "normal" neighborhood setting. In fact, at the next BTS stop from the Suk 57 hotel location (Ekamai), there is Gateway Mall which has many fun things and food options for children and adults. In the other direction from the 57, one BTS stop (Phrom Phong) away, the EmQuartier Megamall (EM District) is a great place to spend with your family.

Gateway Ekamai (April 2013) loads of fun for the kids

Butterfly Show at EmQuartier - Children''s Day 1/12/2019

Double room at the Marriott Sukhumvit 57 (April 2016)

Kacee

Four Points is not a seedy area by Bangkok standards. Especially not when compared to Aloft, which is a long walk down Soi 11 (which I would call moderately seedy, though not Soi Cowboy seedy).

Four Points is also extremely convenient to BTS and Terminal 21.

Kalboz

Pretty much from Sukhumvit 1 all the way past Asok (Sukhumvit 23) on both sides is a seedy area, sometimes even during daylight hours. True, some areas are better than others and thus 4P area not as bad as Soi 11, but at Sukhumvit 15 and Sukhumvit proper (Thermae and vicinity) is a meat shop! I am not judging anyone here as I could care less either way. I'm just giving the OP more information in order to make a better informed decision for himself of his family. Nothing wrong with providing fellow FTers with options.

Art of the deal between Sukhumvit 17-19 during daylight! (January 2017)

Terminal 21 mall is indeed very interesting (December 2011)

paolo64

kalo93406

Was recently at Four Points and really enjoyed it. They do have a very shallow pool section that would be good with children. The pool area wasn't all that busy either. If the poster does choose four points (which he should over Aloft) he can use the back exit to ge over to Terminal 21 and Asoke BTS/Sukhumvit MRT. While I wouldn't call 4P area to bad as far as seediness goes, on Sukhumvit in that area as another poster pointed out, there are working women at all times of the day almost. That actually isn't all that bad as far as children go as they might not even notice it, but there will be some sex toy tables set up on Suk at different times, so If that is something one doesn't want to subject one's children too, use that back exit always and don't take them on Sukhumvit or scope out the locations of those tables to avoid it. I haven't stayed at Courtyard yet, but would like to give that a try and it might be a good option for you. Just saw your son is 4, so I don't think it will matter much about the area you choose as far as seediness goes, what ever you are comfortable with. Four points has a great breakfast! One hour of happy hour 4pm - Midnight at the pool bar for Plat and above. Food is reasonable there too and can get the 20% discount for Plats. Curly fries, shrimp, satay all yummy.

I did stay at Aloft two times and I liked it too. With a four year old while 4P is probably better, if Aloft is much cheaper and you are looking for that, it would be perfectly fine if you don't mind a longer walk to the BTS. Soi 11 is improving a bit lately and there are several new restaurants just opened directly across from Aloft. The sidewalks actually look to be getting better in the area too as it seems like they are trying to build them more consistently throughout the area as best they can. A four year old won't remember much of whatever he sees anyway and It might be something he just remembers as tall buildings in a exotic place.

mrfreezetas

As a regular at Four Points I would recommend it over Aloft, I'll be checking in on the day you check out
As others have mentioned Aloft is further along Soi 11 and in a more "vibrant" area that is more suited to a couple who want to experience secret cocktail bars (Havana Social, The Photo Booth) and the nightlife in the area.
While there is a Tuk Tuk service provided, depending on time of day it would be quicker to walk to or from the Hotel.

The Four Points is situated roughly half way between Nana and Asoke BTS station... Asoke does seems a lot closer but it is an illusion, yes I have counted out the steps one time when the matter was brought up on another forum
Terminal 21 is attached to Asoke BTS and Sukhumvit MRT is close by.

The Marriott Sukhumvit 57 is also a nice hotel in a "normal" are was it was put, but venture a street or so away and it too is either seedy or vibrant depending on how you view it.

Just realised you will be there during Songkran (13-15th) so expect to get wet, have a dry bag for phone, wallet etc.
If staying at Aloft I would expect the street during the day to be nothing but water fights, at least with Four Points you can use the back entrance to avoid getting too wet though if you plan it correctly back entrance to / from hotel and cut through Robinsons to the BTS will see a high chance of staying dry.

Diplomatico

Did you purposely choose the Songkran holiday to visit Thailand? If not, oh boy......

(Four Points > Aloft for family with small child.)

helvetic

If you stay at the Grand Hyatt, you don't even have to leave the hotel! I wonder how many other normal places in Bangkok are filled with girls which I'm too oblivious to notice are working.

yosithezet

SkiAdcock

Article in 2nd link says the 2 hotels will open in 2021. BKK has a lot of Bonvoy properties & certainly getting more

Cheers.

paolo64

Kalboz

The more rooms in Bangkok, the better possibility that rates will remain reasonable for the the foreseeable future

geminidreams

I prefer the Aloft to the 4P. I always seem to find a BRG for the Aloft and never for 4P which has something to do with it and I have always found the atmosphere at the 4P a bit meh. I also enjoy walking even in the heat. I was actually disappointed that there has been so much redevelopment along Soi 11 it is getting bland whereas there was lots of interest previously. I agree that Soi 11 during Songkran is not a place to be.

Dr. HFH

It will be interesting to see where they price Moxy rooms. I stayed at the Moxy near Heathrow last year and it was fine, especially at half the price of the Sheraton Skyline and others of the same ilk. At Heathrow, it's over in a neighborhood near T4.

funkbandit

Pricing and categorization will be interesting. In Tokyo, the Moxy is typically the cheapest Bonvoy option by rate. However, the hotel has the same category as the two CYs (Cat 5). In Tokyo, the hotel categories are very top heavy, whereas you find more low and mid categories in BKK. So it'll be interesting to see how the Moxy will fit in.