Canadian SPG American Express
#1051
Join Date: Nov 2004
Posts: 38
11,000 Point Bonus
As I reported previously, I applied for the card and then called to check the status. The agent cancelled my existing card and transferred the balance ($1100) to the new card. No annual fee for one year with the new card. Must spend $1000 within three months to get the bouns. Checked my account today and AE considered the balance transfer as a spend, and the bonus SPG points are shown to be credited already. Gotta love that.
#1052
Join Date: Nov 2004
Programs: Star Alliance Gold, SPG Lifetime Platinum
Posts: 6
Canadian SPG American Express
Received my AE statment today and was billed $120 for renewal.
Called to inquire about waiving the annual fee and my request for a waiver was declined. When the request for the fee waiver was declined, I cancelled my card.
The CSR at what was clearly a very busy call centre based on my wait time did not offer any incentives to dissuade me from cancelling the SPG card. There was no mention of gift cards or Starpoints.
On the heels of my cancellation, my wife followed suit. No attempt was made to halt the cancellation of her card.
The two of us move forward with the no-fee MBNA Travel Elite MasterCards we received after MBNA and Starwood parted company.
Clearly, American Express has no real interest retaining SPG cardholders. AE was loathe to offer the SPG cards to Starwood members at no fee so their reluctance to waive the annual fee is no shocker.
Perhaps Starwood will entertain a new credit card partnership for we Canadians down the road.
Called to inquire about waiving the annual fee and my request for a waiver was declined. When the request for the fee waiver was declined, I cancelled my card.
The CSR at what was clearly a very busy call centre based on my wait time did not offer any incentives to dissuade me from cancelling the SPG card. There was no mention of gift cards or Starpoints.
On the heels of my cancellation, my wife followed suit. No attempt was made to halt the cancellation of her card.
The two of us move forward with the no-fee MBNA Travel Elite MasterCards we received after MBNA and Starwood parted company.
Clearly, American Express has no real interest retaining SPG cardholders. AE was loathe to offer the SPG cards to Starwood members at no fee so their reluctance to waive the annual fee is no shocker.
Perhaps Starwood will entertain a new credit card partnership for we Canadians down the road.
#1053
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: YWG
Programs: AC Elite, SPG Plat
Posts: 643
I called tonight after being charged the $120 renewal fee. I was quickly offered a $150 GC to keep the card. I accepted the offer. I had already received the 5,000 bonus points offer by mail and the points were in my account late last week.
It seems strange that they would give me a $150 GC when they will not waive the $120 renewal fee.
It seems strange that they would give me a $150 GC when they will not waive the $120 renewal fee.
#1054
Join Date: May 2008
Location: YYZ
Programs: Avis CHM, Hertz Plat, National EE, SPG Plat, Hyatt Diamond, Le Club Plat, CX Gold
Posts: 367
Annual Card Spend: $3300
Was very up front with the cancellation agent. Told her I wanted 10k SPG points or I'm cancelling the card. Agent accepted.
I'll pay the $120 fee, get 10k SPG pointsthen cancel the card right after the points post. Apply online for another card, get 11,000 and a year for free.
Coles Notes: 21,000 SPG Points. $120 and $1000 Spend within 3 months. ($0.00571/Point)
Was very up front with the cancellation agent. Told her I wanted 10k SPG points or I'm cancelling the card. Agent accepted.
I'll pay the $120 fee, get 10k SPG pointsthen cancel the card right after the points post. Apply online for another card, get 11,000 and a year for free.
Coles Notes: 21,000 SPG Points. $120 and $1000 Spend within 3 months. ($0.00571/Point)
#1055
Join Date: Mar 2010
Programs: LH SEN, SPG Gold, Aeroplan
Posts: 19
+1. Just got a new card with chip. I consistently get an error when the chip card is inserted. It consistently has happened ever since receiving the chip card about a week ago. I've primarily used it in restaurants when I get the error, used both recently in Winnipeg and Vancouver. Interestingly, the chip card works at gas stations.
Called Amex and CSR suggested chip is faulty and ordered card replacement. I have waited 2 weeks for new card and it does not work any better. Last night I went for anniversary dinner with my wife and the restaurant couldnt make the chip or the mag stripe work. I ended up using my M/C.
So after this AMEX security improvement I not only need to look for vendor accepting Amex, I need also select those that can work around the chip. Amex should work hard with the vendors to make the chips work in the card readers; otherwise it will cost them business and us points.
#1057
formerly known as 2lovelife
Join Date: Dec 2000
Location: ORF : UA_Premier_Gold4Life, Bonvoy_titanium, Accor_Plat
Posts: 6,952
Regarding the CHIP cards, do they require PINs in combination?
All my CHIP cards in Thailand are signature verification. I'm not sure I will ever use the card if they require me to switch to a PIN.
All my CHIP cards in Thailand are signature verification. I'm not sure I will ever use the card if they require me to switch to a PIN.
#1058
Suspended
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: YYJ
Posts: 2,230
Using a PIN is faster and more secure. Why wouldn't anyone want to use that?
#1059
Join Date: May 2007
Location: YYZ, but my heart is in Asia
Programs: AC-SE, CX-DM, DL-G, Hyatt-DM, Hilton-DM, Fairmont-Plt, Marriott-S, Accor-Plt, SPG-G, IHG-Plt
Posts: 4,396
How would a signature be a "verification?" Photo ID is a verification. I don't think people accepting payment are qualified handwriting analysts to judge whether you signature is the same as the one on the back of the card.
Using a PIN is faster and more secure. Why wouldn't anyone want to use that?
Using a PIN is faster and more secure. Why wouldn't anyone want to use that?
There is no advantage to having a chip card except in places where you have to use a chip card, like some places in Europe.
When there is a fraudulent use of the card, as a cardholder, I just have to deny authorization and I won't be liable to the loss. But with the chip, the onus is on the cardholder to prove that he hasn't authorized the charge if the pin was entered. A chip card is hard to duplicate but nothing is impossible. The crooks who have successfully stolen or duplicate your card just have to somehow get your pin, you would become a victim of credit card fraud.
I still prefer the old fashioned way of using a signature to validate the authorization. It is safer for me (the client). The chip & PIN card is safer for the merchants and the bank.
This is a conspiracy of the banks and sometimes the merchant to claim that the chip card is safer because they can deny any liabilities when a transaction goes through with a PIN and make the cardholder liable.
#1060
formerly known as 2lovelife
Join Date: Dec 2000
Location: ORF : UA_Premier_Gold4Life, Bonvoy_titanium, Accor_Plat
Posts: 6,952
Chip & Pin is 2 seperate ideas, 'security' and a 'savings to administrative costs'. They are marketed as one security upgrade, but the post above is more acurate.
Chip ~ security enhancements such as -stronger encryption -much harder to duplicate -often the card stays in the consumer's hand and is inserted into a portable machine
benefit both the company and the consumer
PIN ~ uses electronic means to validate the identity meaning there is no reason for the merchant to print a copy, no reason for them to keep or send any paper, justifications, and merchant re-imbursement can be made electronically.
But, the PIN in no way makes your transaction safer. In fact, using the PIN makes you vulnerable to someone stealing/learning the PIN while you use it.
Chip ~ security enhancements such as -stronger encryption -much harder to duplicate -often the card stays in the consumer's hand and is inserted into a portable machine
benefit both the company and the consumer
PIN ~ uses electronic means to validate the identity meaning there is no reason for the merchant to print a copy, no reason for them to keep or send any paper, justifications, and merchant re-imbursement can be made electronically.
But, the PIN in no way makes your transaction safer. In fact, using the PIN makes you vulnerable to someone stealing/learning the PIN while you use it.
#1061
formerly known as 2lovelife
Join Date: Dec 2000
Location: ORF : UA_Premier_Gold4Life, Bonvoy_titanium, Accor_Plat
Posts: 6,952
Exchange fees updated?
The US Platinum card has recently announced that they will drop the foreign surcharge on foreign transactions.
As far as I remember, the Canadian card charges twice, once adding a surcharge to convert foreign to USD, then adding a surcharge when converting USD to CDN.
Does anyone know if the Canadian cards have followed the American lead on ending this money grab.
I would use my card with much more frequency if I could trust that I wasn't being ripped off on my foreign transactions.
The US Platinum card has recently announced that they will drop the foreign surcharge on foreign transactions.
As far as I remember, the Canadian card charges twice, once adding a surcharge to convert foreign to USD, then adding a surcharge when converting USD to CDN.
Does anyone know if the Canadian cards have followed the American lead on ending this money grab.
I would use my card with much more frequency if I could trust that I wasn't being ripped off on my foreign transactions.
#1062
Join Date: Jan 2008
Posts: 8
Have the points that people were given as an incentive to stay with the Amex Card for an additional year posted? ANd if they have, how long did it take?
About a week and a half a go I agreed to 5,000 points but nothing has posted to date.
About a week and a half a go I agreed to 5,000 points but nothing has posted to date.
#1063
Join Date: Nov 2000
Posts: 1,290
I am expecting the retention points to post along with the next statement (earned + bonus).
#1064
Join Date: Dec 2002
Location: ATL
Programs: UA:MM 1K HH:Diamond IHG:Plat Marriott:Plat
Posts: 652
My annual fee has still not posted. Not sure what to make of it.
#1065
Join Date: Jan 2009
Programs: aeroplan
Posts: 19
I called this morning re: $120 fee. I was told the annual fee cannot be waived and was offered a switch to a non-SPG no fee card, which I declined. After putting me on hold for 30 seconds, the agent offered me $125 GC. GC shall be shipped within the next 7 days.
Happily accepted.
Happily accepted.