Originally Posted by Wonko (Post 37019227)

A few days ago I had a $500 Pathward/InComm BIN 409758 purchased at Safeway fail at one of my usual Sacramento area WMs for a $240 swipe. The register slip didn't show an error code, just the message "DEBIT NOT APPROVED CALL AUTHORIZER", and the CSR told me I couldn't use a gift card without seeing my card. A couple of days later I tried again and the same thing happened, this time the CSR asked me if I was using a credit card and then told me I couldn't use a gift card, again without seeing the card. The same card later worked at another WM and then at a WMNM. So, it appears that this particular WM is coded to reject gebits and the CSR can see that it's a gebit from their side, but it isn't a systemwide update at least yet.

Originally Posted by spam (Post 37054929)

Got a Code 56 rejection last night at WM. Pathward Visa BIN 4358 80, boughat at Ralphs (Kroger affiliate in CA), was loading $480.

When checked online, didn't even show the attempt at WM.

Originally Posted by Sean54 (Post 37054771)

I've had the same thing happening. My regular CSR was on their phone, not even looking what I was swiping. Then looked at their screen and asked if I was using a gift card. I said "no", and they said, "weird", try again. Tried again, same issue. Debit not approved message on their screen. Usually a little paper comes out showing the error message, but not this time. This was a single swipe. Something for sure changed.

Originally Posted by liw5215 (Post 37054969)

for 4358 80 (BH network), try something below $450.

Originally Posted by liw5215 (Post 37054969)

for 4358 80 (BH network), try something below $450.

Originally Posted by spam (Post 37055408)

OIC. Thanks for the input. Any good DPs on the amount to use?

TIA

Originally Posted by Wonko (Post 37019227)

A few days ago I had a $500 Pathward/InComm BIN 409758 purchased at Safeway fail at one of my usual Sacramento area WMs for a $240 swipe. The register slip didn't show an error code, just the message "DEBIT NOT APPROVED CALL AUTHORIZER", and the CSR told me I couldn't use a gift card without seeing my card. A couple of days later I tried again and the same thing happened, this time the CSR asked me if I was using a credit card and then told me I couldn't use a gift card, again without seeing the card. The same card later worked at another WM and then at a WMNM. So, it appears that this particular WM is coded to reject gebits and the CSR can see that it's a gebit from their side, but it isn't a systemwide update at least yet.

Originally Posted by Sean54 (Post 37058338)

Are the MC also getting locked / declined?

Originally Posted by radonc1 (Post 37058583)

I have not seen DPs yet on MCs being locked.

Maybe someone can supply one?

Originally Posted by Prometheus77 (Post 37058609)

I've had a fair number of the MCGCs from CVS locked. Think it was around 75% of them getting locked and requesting new cards before I threw in the towel on them.

Originally Posted by radonc1 (Post 37060581)

Were they just from CVS? I just recently tried MCGC from Staples for $200 loads at the WM cashier and they worked well.

Originally Posted by Sean54 (Post 37058338)

Are the MC also getting locked / declined?

Originally Posted by Wonko (Post 37052707)

I've comfirmed that Pathward/Incomm Visas from Safeway fail and lock on the first swipe for $240 at several WM and WMSCs around me, both at Money Centers and Customer Service. The error code is 57 = Transaction Not Permitted by vendor. As of today they still work okay at WMNMs, and the replacements work for full value at all WMs.