Huh. They even have the AVP still listed as a deal.

Do they pay promptly?

I don't see the discord in their FAQ though?

I can’t send screen shot here because I just joined FT recently. MoD is about 14 days behind in payouts. Today they paid things scanned on 1/24. There is a channel on their discord server specifically for payouts and they update it every time they do payouts.

For AVP, they were accepting drop off at both of their locations or sending people shipping labels. Prices changed pretty quickly on it, but IMO the communication was good and they were transparent with what people would get paid. There was a ton of chat about it on the discord.

I’ve only just started with them and both my items are shipping right now so I don’t have any real personal experience to share.

Is there a list/guide of places that will ship these orders to these addresses, rough limits, etc, and which will auto-cancel?

you have to test things out yourself as ymmv. Amazon generally is the easiest, but people get QLA'd frequently after buying arbitrary amounts

Yea I've been trying a lot of them, the only luck I've had are with Amazon or rando websites that aren't any of the big ones (target, costco, bestbuy, etc), which all cancel everything immediately.
I'm jealous of everyone living in a sales tax free state for once lol.

Amozon is the easiest so far, but don't over order or add many quantities, costco is okay don't buy more than one for start you willl get shut down if you do bulk orders

I can't get Costco to deliver even one single item. I upgraded to the executive membership and its been a complete waste.

Seeing all these frustrations just to make 2% cb... which will eventually be lost once a package doesn't get delivered...man...I'll offer my 2 cents.

BGs used to a good hustle...when this thread has less than 2 pages. Now it sucks for anyone new to try:

1. most merchants are difficult to order, especially to BG addresses
2. unfriendly return/refund policy. this is partially b/c of using resller address and also fraudulant "refund groups" were rampant in the past few years
3. BGs lowering payout price. below cost deals started probably 2022-2023, BGs are basially squeezing as much profit as they can. Amazon gives 5% cb? we'll take 3%!
4. If you think everyone uses BGs to earn points you are delusional...stolen goods/stolen cc/money laundrying...all part of the game now that BGs become more popular

Enjoy while it lasts!

You have outlined some issues with BGs lately for sure. But there are people on MoD and BFMR who did 7 figures + last year and in the 6 figures already this year with relatively few issues.

Right but they’re not new people and know what items to send to what groups based on the shipping method. They also know how to jig addresses, how to get refunds, and how to get orders through. They also know the semi reputable companies and how to set up
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After doing BGs for 5 years, I would never recommend it to new people.

Everyone has to start somewhere. The issue is to start with what you're comfortable with, and under no circumstances should one start without understanding the challenges/risks and whether they are willing to undertake it.

Having potentially thousands of dollars in limbo (for any period of time) is not for everyone.

everyone has to start somewhere. The learning curve isn’t terribly steep. Anyone new at it like me (less than 3 months into BGs) can start small with Amazon and figure it out.

MoD also offers free shipping labels so for anyone living in a tax free state or for anyone with tax exemption, that person would have relatively easy access to go to a retailer, buy in store, and request a shipping label.

There are some fairly simple ways to go about this. For sure there are some risks and being aware of what those risks are will let people make a decision if it’s the right choice for them.

I’m from Canada which makes some things a bit more complicated and limited for me personally but I’ve already been able to do into the 5 figures in fairly short time with relatively few issues.

My point is BG is not what it was 2 years ago…and the reward/risk ratio has become smaller and smaller…

Previously, you can easily order from any store including Dell, Best buy, etc., you’ll get paid at cost or above cost. If something goes wrong, you can return/ refund easily.

Nowadays, you have to figure out how to order to BG addresses, otherwise you are stuck with Amazon…and get paid 3% below cost. Many merchants won’t refund packages shipped to freight forward addresses, i.e., BG addresses, or they will ask for police report etc. some walmart returns have to be done in-store, so you have to buy a label and have BG send the return to you and return to store…that’s money and a lot of time wasted…besides, any at or above cost deal will be gone within 10 min…

So, can the game still be played? Sure, it’s just you are starting with hard mode instead of easy mode a few years ago.

i did 7 figure myself last year…that’s why i feel like I could offer my 2 cents…

I agree with this assessment. I gave it a try but after seeing how many packages BFMR and others lost, I had to stop. BFMR loses amazon packages SO OFTEN. Like 5-10% often. I literally lost money. And they offer no recourse with little to no customer support. They ghost you. So many datapoints of this. Same with other groups like EMB and maxout.

Whats even worse is that the retailers ban your accounts and can link them to your main account. Target did this for me. My partner was very upset that she couldn't shop online at target anymore. Best buy as well.

I would not recommend this to anyone. Dropshipping is way too risky and one order of 3x macbooks lost can cost you $4k+.

they CLAIM the package is "lost". note the quotes. much more likely is that they just steal it from you as part of their business model. if they steal/lose 1 package out of every 100, that increases their profits massively