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Judgm3nt Mar 19, 2025 10:18 am


Originally Posted by Kriptus1988 (Post 36968429)
I understand what you are saying, but this is not a "below cost" deal since we pay the full price after the discount.

Some items are lucrative enought for us to maintain the original price even though there's a discount, I will give you two examples:

1. Let's say there's an item costing $200 and it has a discount coupon of 10%, in addition we know as a business that we can keep a healthy margin with the $200 cost, we would still pay $200 even thought technically we know buyers get it at $180 and we have plenty of deals like that, we don't mind letting the buyers enjoy savings as long as we also enjoy healthy margins.

2. Let's say on the other hand there's the same item at a cost of $200, it has the same coupon of 10%, but I know that at $200 we as a business won't be able to make good margin on it, so we would ask of you to use the 10% discount and we would pay the $180 price. We still offer the buyers full price, not a cent below, but with the coupon utilized since the alternative is us not buying the item at all and the buyers not getting any benefit from it.

Please understand that we are a business and it's our purpose to buy as low as possible without hurting our buyers, I truly understand you about the 10% discount, but for the buyers as well it's better to make a profit on a $180 vs. not making any profit at all.

This is dressed up nonsense. Every other buying group offers below cost deals because they know the entities making the purchases have ways of obtaining discounts in excess of their below cost price. Your offer is literally the same.

My point of contention is attempting to paint your business as if you don't do things like the others despite doing the exact, same thing.

Kriptus1988 Mar 19, 2025 10:35 am


Originally Posted by Judgm3nt (Post 36968584)
This is dressed up nonsense. Every other buying group offers below cost deals because they know the entities making the purchases have ways of obtaining discounts in excess of their below cost price. Your offer is literally the same.

My point of contention is attempting to paint your business as if you don't do things like the others despite doing the exact, same thing.

I appreciate your perspective and understand why you feel this way.

Our main purpose that both our buyers and our business benefit in a sustainable way, there' this specific Dell deal that we buy with the 10% diso.... same as everyone else, but you forget to mention the remaining 99.99% of our other deals that we buy at full cost, most of them with commissions, and some of them we even cover taxes for ppl who want to send them to FL instead of DE.

At the end of the day, our focus is on securing deals that make financial sense for us and our buyers. We’re always open to feedback and appreciate the discussion.

Judgm3nt Mar 19, 2025 12:40 pm


Originally Posted by Kriptus1988 (Post 36968617)
I appreciate your perspective and understand why you feel this way.

Our main purpose that both our buyers and our business benefit in a sustainable way, there' this specific Dell deal that we buy with the 10% diso.... same as everyone else, but you forget to mention the remaining 99.99% of our other deals that we buy at full cost, most of them with commissions, and some of them we even cover taxes for ppl who want to send them to FL instead of DE.

At the end of the day, our focus is on securing deals that make financial sense for us and our buyers. We’re always open to feedback and appreciate the discussion.

You're misunderstanding the point being made -- there's no issue with the deal being offered, same as it's equally fine that any other group do it, it's that you dress it up as if it's not a below offer deal and then claim that you don't do things that other groups do as a sales pitch -- even though you do, albeit at smaller scale. That's why I don't mention the other deals -- because I take issue with the false narrative.

MustGoFast Apr 3, 2025 8:36 am


Originally Posted by Judgm3nt (Post 36968358)
That's great and all, but what you don't mention is that you bake in offers into your prices. You say you don't offer below cost deals, but are currently offering $225 on a $249.99 Dell deal that requires you to have a 10% off coupon. You don't "want your buyers to enjoy their full savings" nor are you the only group who does direct manufacturer deals.

Have you used UEP - I agree this is "standard" - but this group is new to me so I was curious if you ahd tried them already? Feel free to DM.

Road_Dog Apr 3, 2025 9:50 am

I've used UEP albeit only for a few weeks. I have had a good experience so far.

Regarding Dell, I do think it's annoying you're forced to use 10% off coupons to breakeven. Especially considering Dell is harder to dropship, so now I still have to come up with a way to justify the salestax when shipping to my house (or deal with TE) as. well as the cost of shipping if free labels aren't provided. Another annoying thing about the 10% coupons is that it only applies the discount to one item rather than your whole subtotal. So forget ordering 5 laptops, you have to make multiple orders of 1 and use multiple codes if you want to do any type of volume.

Big Sky Buyers are great for free labels for Dell, although as of late they haven't had too many breakeven Dell deals.

Sabramczyk0 Apr 21, 2025 9:31 am

Just had an Amazon order Shipped to BFMR primary address. Amazon showes as delivered and signed by Bfmr but they claim they never received it.

gef100 Apr 28, 2025 10:14 am

Any more experiences with uearnpoints?

350hp Jun 1, 2025 1:39 pm

Another "missing" Amazon shipments issue with BFMR. All Amazon deliveries to BFMR on May 20th were signed for but not checked in. People lost Macbooks, echo dots etc.

It is all over their discord. BFMR not responding to tickets on these (while continuing to post more "deals")

At this point, this is clearly intentional theft by BFMR.

SadPacman Jun 1, 2025 2:17 pm


Originally Posted by 350hp (Post 37120987)
Another "missing" Amazon shipments issue with BFMR. All Amazon deliveries to BFMR on May 20th were signed for but not checked in. People lost Macbooks, echo dots etc.

It is all over their discord. BFMR not responding to tickets on these (while continuing to post more "deals")

At this point, this is clearly intentional theft by BFMR.

I doubt that's intentional theft on BFMR side, they just can't/won't do anything with it. It's not new really, they had many issues with TBA trackings theft in the past to the point that discord regulars just stopped sending from Amazon to them.

They do seem to get new buyers willing to send them stuff from Amazon (these current issues are a proof) so I guess it doesn't hurt their business too much.

350hp Jun 1, 2025 4:44 pm


Originally Posted by SadPacman (Post 37121047)
I doubt that's intentional theft on BFMR side, they just can't/won't do anything with it. It's not new really, they had many issues with TBA trackings theft in the past to the point that discord regulars just stopped sending from Amazon to them.

They do seem to get new buyers willing to send them stuff from Amazon (these current issues are a proof) so I guess it doesn't hurt their business too much.

Who do you think is signing for all the missing packages then? Just trying to understand.

SadPacman Jun 1, 2025 7:35 pm


Originally Posted by 350hp (Post 37121243)
Who do you think is signing for all the missing packages then? Just trying to understand.

They are not inspecting every package - they are signing for the whole truck so if there a package or even pallet is missing they won't know until all packages from that truck are scanned. To be fair most bigger groups do it the same way, otherwise it would take forever for each truck.

350hp Jun 2, 2025 12:36 pm


Originally Posted by SadPacman (Post 37121448)
They are not inspecting every package - they are signing for the whole truck so if there a package or even pallet is missing they won't know until all packages from that truck are scanned. To be fair most bigger groups do it the same way, otherwise it would take forever for each truck.

So you are saying all groups handle this the same way? TBA packages are usually not delivered in a truck in my experience.

SadPacman Jun 2, 2025 1:15 pm


Originally Posted by 350hp (Post 37122841)
So you are saying all groups handle this the same way? TBA packages are usually not delivered in a truck in my experience.

I think missing pallets were FedEx or UPS, TBA had a separate issue with empty boxes but regardless they usually sign for all packages at once. Exception will be for Roadie or delivery from store (like Walmart) because these bring one item at a time, but then I'm not sure if these even require signature.

ft543 Jun 3, 2025 9:07 pm


Originally Posted by 350hp (Post 37122841)
So you are saying all groups handle this the same way? TBA packages are usually not delivered in a truck in my experience.

For Amazon, it depends. If the address is manually flagged as high volume, Amazon will directly send a big truck to it to save everyone time and money. In those cases the recipient is probably signing for the whole truck or pallet. The old BG Oregon warehouse had this setup, the new one does not seem to have this setup. Otherwise you're right, its just Amazon Logistics showing up in normal delivery vehicles.

gooch69509 Jun 30, 2025 10:02 am

What's up with pointsmaker??


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