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Old Jan 10, 2015, 8:55 pm
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The previous megathread is here.

Read the wiki before posting a question.
It's a literacy test that's easy to pass.


As of April 16, 2015 regular Serve cards will only accept American Express network cards for online credit card loads.
Softcard Serve accounts are apparently grandfathered in the old system and continue to work as before, being able to load Mastercard, Visa, and Discover (see below).


Serve loads count towards minimum spend on AmEx-issued cards, including SPG.

This is the Serve thread. Post questions or information concerning other topics in the appropriate threads elsewhere in this forum.

For additional information on using prepaid debit cards, see PIN available now for Visa/MC prepaid debit cards.


You cannot make an ACH pull from Serve. The direct deposit account and routing numbers are for deposits only.

https://www.serve.com/#/add-cash

If your card doesn't say "debit" on the front, it isn't a debit card.


Loads at 7-11 and CVS are cash only. Debit cards are NOT allowed.

Loads at Walmart have been confirmed with debit cards. Self checkout does not work for loading Serve. Many Walmart stores are enforcing a rule against the use of prepaid debit cards when loading, even though the register and the MCE do not enforce. Do not make your prepaid debit cards visible. Show them a bank debit card if asked, then discreetly use your prepaid card when asked to swipe. Otherwise, you may be asked by management to never visit the MC (Walmart Money Center) again to load.

Debit loading at Family Dollar appears to be limited to $500 per day per store total (not per person or per account). Whoever gets there first gets the load for the day. Troubleshooting loading problems at FD

Regular Serve
  • Serve loading via VR/MP or WM/FD load: $2,500/day and $5,000 total per calendar month
  • Online Debit Card Load - $200/day and $1,000/month [B]
  • Online Credit Card Load (AmEx only) - $200/day and $1,000/month
  • Checking/Savings Account - $2,000/month
  • Checks - $2,000/day and $10,000/month
  • ATM Withdrawals - $750/day and $2,000/month

You can combine the three methods above and load a total of $7k/month to a single Serve account for miles/points earning purposes, but beware that you're also subject to a $10,000/month add money limit which also includes check deposits, ACH transfers, and Serve transfers.

Softcard Serve
Softcard has shutdown and there is no longer any way to apply for this version.
  • Serve loading via VR/MP or WM/FD load: $2,500/day and $5,000 total per calendar month
  • Online Debit Card Load - $500/day and $1,500/month
  • Online Credit Card Load - $500/day and $1,500/month
  • Checking/Savings Account - $2,000/month
  • Checks - $2,000/day and $10,000/month
  • ATM Withdrawals - $750/day and $2,000/month

You can combine the three methods above and load a total of $8k/month to a single Serve account for miles/points earning purposes, but beware that you're also subject to a $10,000/month add money limit which also includes check deposits, ACH transfers, and Serve transfers.

Temp Serve
You can only load a maximum of $500/day, $1000/month on a temporary card. Once you get your permanent card, then you can load more. The initial $500 when you purchase the temp card doesn't count against the $5,000/month load limit.

OneVip Card: (Mucho gracias, AndrewTheMan)
This card is essentially just like the regular, fee-free, "old" serve. You may reload this card up to $2,500/day; $1,000/transaction at Walmart (not impacted by Blue Bird daily limit change). Have not tested FD or anywhere else. KATE takes this no problems..
You can use this to load the FIDO AMEX up to 1k a month.

Limits for online debit card and credit card loads reset at 9 PM PST/12 AM EST

Online Credit Card Loads
Only one card can be linked at a time.

For online CC/DC loads, the name on the Serve account is supposed to match the name of the primary or joint cardholder. So using someone else's CC/DB card to load a Serve account is not allowed.

A few report no problems loading with an AU card in the Serve account holder's name. Increase your chances by making sure the AUs social security number is on file with the Credit Card.

When adding a new card you will usually need to call Serve Account security (1-800-555-4318) for verification of the new card on the second load try. This verification usually requires uploading of a photo of your ID and the credit card. You may pre-emptively avoid the error by going to the above website, logging in, and uploading a scan of a photo ID and the card you are trying to add. You may call back to expedite approval. One person with a Serve/Softcard account reported being sent to the main Serve number for this process.

https://www.serve.com/help/#add-money-5

Regular Serve Credit Card Loading

Regular Serve can only load from American Express network cards. In addition to those issued directly by American Express, this includes the following:
  • AAA Rewards AmEx
  • Alitalia AmEx
  • Bank of America Accelerated Rewards AmEx
  • Bank of America Asiana Airlines AmEx
  • Bank of Hawaii AmEx Card with MyBankoh Rewards
  • Bloomingdale's AmEx
  • Citi AAdvantage Platinum Select AmEx
  • Citi Dividend AmEx (not obtainable unless specifically requested)
  • Citi Thank You Preferred AmEx (not obtainable unless specifically requested)
  • Dillard's AmEx
  • FNBO AmEx
  • FNBO Graphite AmEx
  • FNBO Platinum AmEx
  • Macy's AmEx
  • Penfed Premium Travel Rewards AmEx
  • SavingStar AmEx
  • Travelocity AmEx
  • US Bank Flexperks AmEx
  • USAA Cash Rewards/Rewards Plus AmEx
  • Wells Fargo Propel World/365 AmEx

Softcard Serve Credit Card Loading

If you are fortunate enough to be grandfathered into a Softcard Serve Account, you can also load other credit cards beside American Express cards. Softcard Serve is not available to new applicants anymore so you'll need to get one of the other Serve options if you don't already have one. In general, Mastercard and American Express cards post as purchases. Visa cards transact as a cash advance and, therefore, require available CA limit; although most cards post as a purchase.

Treated as purchase, earns cashback/points/miles:
  • Bank of America (FIA) (MasterCard, American Express)
  • Barclaycard (Mastercard, Visa)
  • Capital One (Mastercard, Visa)
  • Chase (MasterCard, Visa)
  • Citi (MasterCard, American Express)
  • Discover
  • Wells Fargo (American Express)

Treated as purchase, but doesn't earn points/miles:
  • American Express issued (Counts toward minimum spend -- see post #434) but does not earn points. Example: For the Delta Amex card, Serve counts towards min spend DL miles sign-up bonus, but that spend and subsequent trials of spend on Serve will not earn points. Don't do it, man!

Posts as a cash advance:
The Chase Ink Bold is a charge card and has no cash advance ability.

A few report being unable to add the Chase IHG MC.

Online Debit Card Loads
For online debit load, only use of bank-issued cards is allowed. The use of pre-paid debit cards (Netspend, Paypower, Univision, Paypal, etc.) and VGC/MGC/AGCs is not allowed. While initial transactions may work, your account will eventually be flagged.

Switching to Serve
Helpful instruction post, latest. Thanks raeneye.

Also see this thread: Switching from Serve to BlueBird - 31 day wait???

Switching from BB to Serve
  1. Login to BB account, bring account balance to Zero, (By Bill Pay, Send money, etc..)
  2. Call BB, tell them that you want to open a serve account and close your current BB account. after they check everything they will say something like: "Your account will be permanently closed after 31 days, you can reopen it within 31 day if you change your mind, and you can apply for your new Serve account now, just make sure use the exact same register info from BB."
  3. at this point BB is closed. next morning, goto CVS and get a temporary Serve card (only with cash), load $500, ($2.95 waived, Yeah!!)
  4. get back home, register temporary Serve online, First error: "phone number already registered, please try a different number" could be the my BB's ghost account still showing up on their system, could be my info is not match my BB's registration? i'm not really sure at this point. What I did is keep the same number but change from Cell phone to home phone. and registration went through
  5. after the register and login, second error: "We're still processing your application. Please check your email for an update"
  6. I have see people on the thread reported waiting for weeks for the same message, So, I pickup the phone and called them, ask them to speed up the process.
  7. CSR, told me that my account went to "account security protection department" transfer me to them.
  8. at account security protection department, they told me need to call back on my phone number which I registered to verify.
  9. after the call back of verification, CSR told me that my new Serve account is active now, email address verification will be send with in 5 minutes, permanent card will be received within 7-10 days.
  10. CSR also told me the I can load and spend on the temporary card, but not bill pay.

Switching from Redbird is presumably similar. See the RedCard thread for more information.

The number to call to approve your registration after closing Bluebird: Serve Account security 1-800-555-4318

Loading with debit card at Walmart register
Loads at register over $500 will sometimes trigger ID requirement. There is a limit of four swipes per transaction; this means your card plus three payments.

Training a WM cashier:
  • If the WM cashier doesn't know how to load the card, advise them to enter "70" then press "action code".
  • If you are using a temp card that doesn't have your name on it, you can swipe the card from your side of the terminal. The WM rep never has to touch any of your cards. The screen will say "enter account." That is your prompt to slide the card.
  • The terminal will ask the WM employee if you are loading in multiples of $2000. Advise them to enter "no."
  • Avoid saying gift card. Always refer to your card as a debit card.

Error Messages:
DEBIT NOT AVAILABLE
Received when I used a card I thought I had activated but hadn't.

DEBIT NOT APPROVED
Received when the card's monthly load limit had been reached.

TENDER NOT ALLOWED
Card was incorrectly read, or wrong PIN entered.

HOST TIMEOUT
Connection problems. The GC may be drained but the transaction should reverse itself, and funds will become available again. Try again later.

Using Serve
For online bill pay
  • You can pay the credit card that you used to buy VRs/GCs
  • Error 1302 means that you have 1 pending payment the same amount as the one you just submitted. For example, 1000 bill pay to sapphire preferred from Friday and then on Saturday you submit another bill pay for 1000 to sapphire preferred, you will get this error.
  • Tip: if using online bill pay to the same place multiple times, vary your amounts by $0.01 to make it easier to track since your confirmation number does not match the tracking number on your credit card statement

For bank transfers
Under Settings --> Funding & Transfers --> Bank & Cards --> U.S. Bank Account, you can add your bank info and transfer funds from your Serve card directly to your bank. The bank account must be verified, either by the standard "deposit 2 small sums into your account, such as $0.23 & $0.42" method, or doing an "instant verification" by actually logging into your bank account while still logged into Serve.
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People with an apartment address can find helpful information quoted in post #7
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Old Dec 24, 2015, 9:41 pm
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Originally Posted by Jim Jdr
I never received any such email from paypal ? Are you talking about a prepaid paypal card ? Because mine is not prepaid, mine is a paypal debit card that I have through my regular paypal account which there is a difference between the two. If yours is the non prepaid not sure why you are losing your 1% back and I have not gotten that unless it makes a difference that I have had mine for many years and its only never ones that are losing the 1% not sure either way.

As for the $1500 per month load limit for debit card I will be calling amex serve on the 26th and get that changed to $1500 on mine and stop blocking me from adding over $1000 per month and I have had mine since mid summer of 2014 when I got it through my verizon service so I should have the $1500 per month debit load limit and not $1000
I'm talking about the paypal debit card. Here is a post in the paypal thread about it: http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/25898503-post1179.html
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Old Dec 24, 2015, 10:39 pm
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Originally Posted by ChrisFlyer66
I'm talking about the paypal debit card. Here is a post in the paypal thread about it: http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/25898503-post1179.html
Its kind of confusing but yeah they should not list pin less just list no more 1% back period because the pin transactions never got cash back. Not sure why I never received anything from paypal on this ?
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Old Dec 25, 2015, 4:38 am
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Originally Posted by Jim Jdr
Its kind of confusing but yeah they should not list pin less just list no more 1% back period because the pin transactions never got cash back. Not sure why I never received anything from paypal on this ?

Did you read the email? it says pin less debit, not pin less credit. you should have been selecting credit when sliding the card. That's what they want you to do
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Old Dec 25, 2015, 4:48 am
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Originally Posted by Michael Belisle
Did you read the email? it says pin less debit, not pin less credit. you should have been selecting credit when sliding the card. That's what they want you to do
Have no clue what your talking about credits never use pins only debits do so saying pinless credit makes no sense as credits never use pins. They never gave me 1% rewards when I used it as a pin transaction such as buying and getting cash back they never gave me rewards on those type of purchases the only purchases I received the 1% rewards on were purchases ran as credit which is never pin associated.
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Old Dec 25, 2015, 9:56 am
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Originally Posted by Jim Jdr
Have no clue what your talking about credits never use pins only debits do so saying pinless credit makes no sense as credits never use pins. They never gave me 1% rewards when I used it as a pin transaction such as buying and getting cash back they never gave me rewards on those type of purchases the only purchases I received the 1% rewards on were purchases ran as credit which is never pin associated.
Well, online Serve loads are PIN-less debit which have been earning me cash back. With Softserve, we get $1500 of loads with a credit card and $1500 with debit. I assume we won't be able to get 1% cash back using the paypal debit card for the online debit loads anymore after Feb 1.
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Old Dec 25, 2015, 11:15 am
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Originally Posted by ChrisFlyer66
Well, online Serve loads are PIN-less debit which have been earning me cash back.
This is not true at all. If you view the transaction in PayPal, it will be described as signature, meaning credit, meaning not debit. Just because a transaction doesn't use a PIN, is PIN-less, doesn't mean that it's debit. It has to be both PIN-less and debit.
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Old Dec 25, 2015, 11:28 am
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Hi guys,

I am well aware of the limits of the serve card, well something happened last month that i can't figure out, is my understanding that Serve withdraws are $2500 a month (from serve to linked bank account), well last month i was able to send $4500 to my bank account from a single card (bad thing but it was mistake), also i loaded in one of my card $5000 that is supposed to be the limit, well checking my card it's telling me that i still can load $2500 and the other the full $5000 even though this month i put $10,000 in both cards, one of two things are happening, or the limit increased (i doubt it) or there is no such thing as "per calendar month" on my cards, i will try to load tomorrow to see what happens.

Anyone here has noticed this?, or perhaps the info i am getting from the card settings is wrong?
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Old Dec 25, 2015, 12:06 pm
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Originally Posted by DaveInLA
AMEX gcs have no PIN, therefore not able to be loaded.
There's even a link in the wiki to the thread with that information....
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Old Dec 25, 2015, 12:48 pm
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Originally Posted by vinhboy
Yes. You can pay anyone. Doesn't matter. You just need their card number. We do this ALL the time, for years now. ^
Thanks
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Old Dec 25, 2015, 3:34 pm
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Originally Posted by ChrisFlyer66
Well, online Serve loads are PIN-less debit which have been earning me cash back. With Softserve, we get $1500 of loads with a credit card and $1500 with debit. I assume we won't be able to get 1% cash back using the paypal debit card for the online debit loads anymore after Feb 1.
Not sure about that yes serve is pinless when adding funds from your debit card but they may be running as a credit most likely because paypal gives me 1% cash back on them and I only get the 1% cash back on purchases run as a credit card charge. Any debit card charge requires a pin otherwise it goes through as a mastercard credit card charge nondebit.
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Old Dec 25, 2015, 3:36 pm
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Originally Posted by Phantom707
This is not true at all. If you view the transaction in PayPal, it will be described as signature, meaning credit, meaning not debit. Just because a transaction doesn't use a PIN, is PIN-less, doesn't mean that it's debit. It has to be both PIN-less and debit.
I agree I just think all debit charges require a pin if no pin required then it goes through as a mastercard credit card charge, this is what I believe and no I"am no banker so I"am not basing this in fact no.
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Old Dec 25, 2015, 3:43 pm
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Anyone else recently use a Bank of America Travel Rewards Visa?

My CA limit is set at $200. I just loaded my Softserve for $500 using that card. My CA limit lowered $200, and my total available credit lowered by $500. There is no possibility of the $500 load being coded as a CA with my limit set at $200, right?
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Old Dec 25, 2015, 5:04 pm
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Originally Posted by Phantom707
This is not true at all. If you view the transaction in PayPal, it will be described as signature, meaning credit, meaning not debit. Just because a transaction doesn't use a PIN, is PIN-less, doesn't mean that it's debit. It has to be both PIN-less and debit.
I hope that is true and that I'll continue getting cash back after Feb 1. I'll certainly try it and see what happens.
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Old Dec 25, 2015, 6:01 pm
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Originally Posted by ChrisFlyer66
I hope that is true and that I'll continue getting cash back after Feb 1. I'll certainly try it and see what happens.
I"am with you on that. I thought the same that it meant no more cash back with paypal debit ( not prepaid ) cards.
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Old Dec 25, 2015, 6:01 pm
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tried to link my Barclay priceline visa to softcard serve.
but keep getting error: We're sorry, something went wrong! Please try again.

the Barclay online banking shows a lot of pre-authorizations with no amount when I keep trying.

Is Christmas a serve holiday?
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