May 29, 2014, 7:43 pm
Last edit by: prasha11
Does not work anymore, is dead..... what is the point to report 'not working'?
As of 08/25/2014, Bancorp cards (Vanilla Visa, OneVanilla, etc.) are rarely working first try for debit transactions at Walmart. There is no apparent geographical basis. Basically, it's a crapshoot.
Do not agitate a cashier or store and lose the ability to make these transactions in the future. Multiple failed swipes or transactions will likely increase scrutiny. You do not want that. It is best to stop using these cards.
Vanilla VISA defaulting to credit
As of 5/29/2014, at most Walmart locations, all Vanilla VISA cards issued by The Bancorp Bank are automatically recognized as credit. Most Mastercard have required a workaround for some time. The MoneyCenter Express (ATM, kiosk, Kate) is not affected by this change.
As of 08/25/2014, Bancorp cards (Vanilla Visa, OneVanilla, etc.) are rarely working first try for debit transactions at Walmart. There is no apparent geographical basis. Basically, it's a crapshoot.
Do not agitate a cashier or store and lose the ability to make these transactions in the future. Multiple failed swipes or transactions will likely increase scrutiny. You do not want that. It is best to stop using these cards.
Vanilla VISA defaulting to credit
As of 5/29/2014, at most Walmart locations, all Vanilla VISA cards issued by The Bancorp Bank are automatically recognized as credit. Most Mastercard have required a workaround for some time. The MoneyCenter Express (ATM, kiosk, Kate) is not affected by this change.
MO Purchases using OV @ WM
Oct 20, 2014, 12:24 pm
#3286
Join Date: Apr 2014
Posts: 1,273
I have to admit, the more people post about this, the more it sounds like regional problems associated with software or hardware updates.
Oct 20, 2014, 12:28 pm
#3287
Suspended
Join Date: May 2010
Posts: 2,998
I had success Friday, failure Saturday, didn't try Sunday and had 1 work today on the 1st swipe and then nothing after.
I'll agree that it was likely a SW/HW issue vs. a sweeping change, otherwise I wouldn't have had that 1 work this a.m.
Oct 20, 2014, 12:29 pm
#3288
Join Date: Jun 2014
Posts: 32
I was just able unload w/ KATE on to BB and buy MO but she was super slow and kept asking for PIN.
Oct 20, 2014, 2:49 pm
#3289
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: SF Bay Area
Programs: SPG Platinum, Marriott Platinum, PC Platinum, Hyatt Platinum
Posts: 321
Oct 20, 2014, 4:55 pm
#3290
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: MKE
Posts: 614
Went to WM today to load OVs
1st Card: 2 swipes
2nd Card: 6 swipes
1st Card: 2 swipes
2nd Card: 6 swipes
Oct 20, 2014, 6:42 pm
#3291
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Apr 2002
Location: Madison, WI, USA
Posts: 14,162
Working again in Madison. 2 OVs -- first card 2 swipes, second card 1 swipe. I'll buy a few more and hope tomorrow works as well.
Last edited by PaulMSN; Oct 20, 2014 at 7:37 pm
Oct 21, 2014, 8:26 am
#3293
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Apr 2002
Location: Madison, WI, USA
Posts: 14,162
This morning I bought $4K of MOs using 2 OVs, 2 VVs and 4 Simons. The first OV took 2 swipes, the second one and the VVs took only 1 swipe.
Oct 21, 2014, 3:05 pm
#3294
Join Date: Oct 2013
Programs: Hyatt Globalist No More..., Hyatt Explorist, Hilton Diamond, SPG Platinum, Marriott Platinum
Posts: 4,375
You're amazing. Although I completely disagree with your strategy because I don't think 99% of us would be able to pull it off, I give you a lot of props for being so good at it.
Out of curiosity, what do you do while they are helping you? Small talk? Any topics you recommend?
Also, what is your profile? White, male, 40s, I am assuming? How are you dressed during these encounters?
I am not being facetious, I am genuinely curious how you work your magic. I would have a police escort out of the store if I tried some of the things you write about here.
Out of curiosity, what do you do while they are helping you? Small talk? Any topics you recommend?
Also, what is your profile? White, male, 40s, I am assuming? How are you dressed during these encounters?
I am not being facetious, I am genuinely curious how you work your magic. I would have a police escort out of the store if I tried some of the things you write about here.
FWIW, it's not just him. The staff at this particular WM are, in general, very nice people. Not just the SC/MC staff, but pretty much everyone.
It's clearly something from their management teams way of running the store as the WM down the road is a completely miserable place to enter.
It's clearly something from their management teams way of running the store as the WM down the road is a completely miserable place to enter.
Oct 21, 2014, 8:13 pm
#3295
Join Date: Oct 2012
Posts: 299
WM
I concur with CDancer20!! I real lady! We don't abuse the WM system. And it works for me in CT/NY and her down south!!
Oct 21, 2014, 10:30 pm
#3296
Join Date: Sep 2014
Posts: 27
Was able to Load BB with two OVs with kate today. One swipe each! A few days ago same kate, would not load the OVs or VVs. I'm in So Calif
Oct 21, 2014, 10:55 pm
#3297
Join Date: Oct 2014
Posts: 2
I went to Walmart to reload my OVs. However, besides asking for my pin, it asked for a 9 digit pin. Where can I find the 9 digit pin?
Oct 22, 2014, 1:32 am
#3299
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: a hotel room, somewhere...
Posts: 962
FWIW, it's not just him. The staff at this particular WM are, in general, very nice people. Not just the SC/MC staff, but pretty much everyone.
It's clearly something from their management teams way of running the store as the WM down the road is a completely miserable place to enter.
It's clearly something from their management teams way of running the store as the WM down the road is a completely miserable place to enter.
in the bay area and in the areas near downtown and/or any lower income area, i have found i have to scale back my friendliness! i'm naturally talkative and chat with cashiers. i've found, if they don't know me, if i walk up friendly and do something as innocuous as a nice friendly 'hi', you can actually see the wheels turning, 'he's up to no good' (my perception is that the dumb criminals are overly friendly, and it's a 'tell').
in the burbs there isn't that built in suspicion triggered- well, except older (think grey haired grandma age) white ladies in the south- they look at me like, 'i don't know what you think you're about to pull, but it's not working with me buster'!
when i sense i've got a vigilante, that's when i will make the first swipe with a 'real' debit card. maybe even the second swipe- figuring the s/he will want to see it. i view it as a small investment with future returns. once they've seen 'real' debit cards, they never ask again. granted my 'real' one is always in plain view when i walk up- part of the theater.
Oct 22, 2014, 2:32 am
#3300
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: USA
Programs: Chase Ultimate, Amex, Delta, AA, BA Avios, United, US Airways, Marriott, Hilton
Posts: 260
I will check again today and see what the verdict. hopefully it was just a transient issue with software or something.