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Originally Posted by mithrin
(Post 21992225)
I don't see any way for people who aren't allowed access to make the necessary positive contributions to be granted access. Unless you mean they need to contribute to other FT forums besides MS to gain access to MS?
You'll lose good members that way. I almost never visit the other FT forums. I recently joined FT after years on FWF specifically for the MS forum. I focus on cash instead of miles, and don't travel often--vacation trips are usually to visit family. The flights I need are not expensive to purchase, so I wouldn't get very good value for miles. I prefer cashback (or Arrival card) instead. If the MS forum had been closed to new members, I would not have found the other forums to be very useful, so I would not have have stayed around. I realize that I'm not the most prolific poster--and don't expect to be. I'm just under 600 posts on FW after 6 years. Mostly because I don't feel the need to post redundant info and someone usually beats me to answering questions. I find myself typing up replies and then not hitting send when I ask myself: "Does this post warrant adding to the length of the topic"? What I have found is that the MS forum contains much more useful information than FWF on the topic of MS. I do hope that people here find my contributions valuable, even if my post count isn't as high as my cashback balance. |
Interesting discussion. Afraid new MS tricks are just not being publically disclosed with the frequency they were in the past because the tricks get killed off too fast once the word gets out to the public.
That said, did anyone get an email for Delta with a 3x Skymiles offer for getting AMEX GCs? Got 20k Skypesos for Using a Delta AMEX for 5k. With the GCs I may say bye-bye birdy, which is usually more appropriate for AMEX SPG or USB FP cards or the occasional AMEX or Citi HH 3x card since HH is offering some decent HH + cash hotel deals (see Madrid for example).
Originally Posted by RFDMinnesota
(Post 21992843)
[Virtually] All insight is valuable!
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lost in all of this "get off my lawn" discussion is the fact that no limitation on new member's postings will have any limit on their ability to access and read existing threads. just to pick one example, the amazon payments thread has about 3000 posts, many by the same people, but has nearly 1 million reads.
people everywhere are, and always have been, drawn to the promise of free money. no level of institutional control will ever stop them from failing to be cognizant of the risks involved. asking someone to say "thanks" 90 times certainly won't. yes, widespread exploitation of a MS scheme can lead to its shutdown. imposing limitations on posting privileges here won't necessarily reduce any particular scheme's exposure. |
If it wasn't for this forum, I would have never started with MS. I enjoy the game quite a bit, but I did my homework for months before hand. And I'll still have questions which I hope are answered in a professional manner.
This is somewhat jokingly, but would it be possible to provide access to the MS forum after taking some sort of quiz? Provide public access to the sticky posts but have new MSers figure out what various acronyms stand for, a test on limits, etc. My biggest hurdle was figuring out what exactly to buy, what BB or MVD stood for, and what sort of limits/fees etc for each product were. Then again, if you close the MS forum down, folks will just go elsewhere that's not so secretive. Now, if someone can refer me to a more secretive MS forum, send me a PM ;-) |
Originally Posted by particlemn
(Post 21987775)
what if we made it a hard cut off of 2010 join or before? when we pick an arbitrary date we cut off an arbitrary number of people.(some times my left hand with the e gets ahead of my right hand and its l while typeing)
There's precedence on FT to restrict access to certain fora--notably OMNI, OMNI/PR, and Coupon Connection, but IIRC access restrictions on other fora have been proposed and considered at times--by way of requirements involving time as a FT member and numbers of posts, with post padding and post runs being monitored. The restrictions are stated as, for example, 90 days since signing up for a FT account and 90 posts or 180 days and 180 posts, sometimes with the number of posts not being stated explicitly or at least not widely publicized to discourage post padding or post runs to gain quick access. |
Originally Posted by crabbing
(Post 21993226)
lost in all of this "get off my lawn" discussion is the fact that no limitation on new member's postings will have any limit on their ability to access and read existing threads. just to pick one example, the amazon payments thread has about 3000 posts, many by the same people, but has nearly 1 million reads.
people everywhere are, and always have been, drawn to the promise of free money. no level of institutional control will ever stop them from failing to be cognizant of the risks involved. asking someone to say "thanks" 90 times certainly won't. yes, widespread exploitation of a MS scheme can lead to its shutdown. imposing limitations on posting privileges here won't necessarily reduce any particular scheme's exposure. Of course, this is not to say that the current method and definition of restricted access is the only way that could be considered. OTOH, the software running FT probably imposes technical restrictions on what can be done. |
I like the idea, RFD, I just don't see a good way to determine a cutoff for access.
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Originally Posted by BBPlaya13
(Post 21993468)
I like the idea, RFD, I just don't see a good way to determine a cutoff for access.
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Originally Posted by yasn
(Post 21993668)
Easy, someone has registered with the site for more than 30 days and more than 5 posts.
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I never quite understand these threads. Sure I learn a handful of things on my own but the majority of my information is learned here. Even those that have been here forever did you come up with all the ideas on MS yourself? If so, why are you here?
This has been rehased a million times. Someone that has 3 Amazon Payment accounts is excessive to those that have 2. Those that have 3 think those that have 6 is abuse. Those with 6 think 12, etc... Same goes for MF spending. "Abuse" the system is relative for everyone. Some do it way more than others and at some point it hits someone threshold that it's too much and they will ruin a good thing for everyone else. |
Originally Posted by AlohaDaveKennedy
(Post 21993116)
Interesting discussion. Afraid new MS tricks are just not being publically disclosed with the frequency they were in the past because the tricks get killed off too fast once the word gets out to the public.
That said, did anyone get an email for Delta with a 3x Skymiles offer for getting AMEX GCs? Got 20k Skypesos for Using a Delta AMEX for 5k. With the GCs I may say bye-bye birdy, which is usually more appropriate for AMEX SPG or USB FP cards or the occasional AMEX or Citi HH 3x card since HH is offering some decent HH + cash hotel deals (see Madrid for example). |
Originally Posted by AlohaDaveKennedy
(Post 21993116)
...email for Delta with a 3x Skymiles offer for getting AMEX GCs?.
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/manuf...ift-cards.html |
I am along time lurker but I think closing this forum will be counterproductive. All the bloggers will still pull any valuable information and put it on the blogs while newbies that may stumble in something good will not be able to share it with the community.
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Originally Posted by xcg001
(Post 21995552)
I am along time lurker but I think closing this forum will be counterproductive. All the bloggers will still pull any valuable information and put it on the blogs while newbies that may stumble in something good will not be able to share it with the community.
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How does this prevent the blogging credit card affiliate leeches like the guy in the bow tie from ruining the tricks with boxes and arrows? It doesn't.
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