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“My Vanilla Personal Reloadable Prepaid Debit Visa card”
https://www.myvanilladebitcard.com

FAQs: https://www.myvanilladebitcard.com/myvanilla/faq.html
T&C: https://www.myvanilladebitcard.com/m...Policy_ENG.pdf
Fees: https://www.myvanilladebitcard.com/m...RhFOmbp3hiKogJ

There isn't a bill pay function with MVD.

How do I load funds onto MVD? There are two primary ways to load funds onto your MyVanilla Card: 1) Direct Deposit (direct deposit all or part of your paycheck, social security, even your tax return refund right onto your MyVanilla Card); 2) At any Vanilla Reload Network retailer; just bring your Card and the amount you want to load onto your Card - Note: This can be either purchasing a Vanilla Reload card or possibly using a retailer with loading function on the cash register such as CVS. $3.95 fee applies to both methods.

CVS Credit Card Load Data Points:
Credit Cards used treated as a purchase:
FIA Fidelity Amex

Credit Cards used treated as a cash advance:
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What is the load limit? You can load a maximum of $500.00 per day onto your Card, and there is a $2,500.00 total maximum deposit limit per day from all deposit sources (loads and ACH direct deposits). The daily ATM withdrawal limit is $400.00. The daily Cash Advance or "Over the Counter" limit at a bank is reported as $2,500.00/day. Some reports that this is actually / month. Maximum loaded amount on MVD card is $9,999.

If you can find Vanilla Reload cards that you can purchase with a credit card, max out by getting up to 3 registered MyVanilla Debit cards and you can load up to $2500 x 3 per day. And if you have a bank near you that will give you cash advances, you can take the full balance off each card for a $1.95 cent fee.
If you do not have Vanilla Reloads available near you, you want to find a bank that will allow you to cash out temporary cards. These are the ones you buy at CVS for $500 plus $3.95 fee and then cash them out en masse for a 50 cash advance fee apiece.
In Essence
Get new cards, spend some random amount and then get put in shutdown mode to spend off what is left, unless you utilize one old weird trick that prevents shutdown mode.

Liquidating a shut down account as of 3.31.2014
Various reports, and I can also confirm- If you receive the "invalid username or password" message when trying to access your account online, that's the indicator that you have been shut down. Check again for a day or so (just to make sure it wasn't an issue with their website). If still unable to access- you've been shut down.

If you don't want to call and talk to them, you can confirm yourself whether your account is still alive to liquidate by calling 855.686.9513. If you are able to hear your balance, you can liquidate- and you can liquidate quickly without any problem. I liquidated $8,200 over the weekend: 5k Saturday, the remainder Sunday (Walmart BillPay and MO).
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Old Mar 8, 2013, 11:58 am
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Originally Posted by bobfather
They make money through transaction fees, from the card reload fees, from ATM fees, and through float
Do they make much from your MVD usage patterns ?
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Old Mar 8, 2013, 12:02 pm
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They make TONS through my VR purchasing patterns.

Edit: Just to be clear, sometimes in excess of $200/month in the VR purchases alone.

Does anyone care to do the math to figure out how much money is needed to make $2400 a year at 1.1% APY?
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Old Mar 8, 2013, 12:30 pm
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Originally Posted by bobfather
They make TONS through my VR purchasing patterns
By "They" do you mean Walgreens or CVS ?
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Old Mar 8, 2013, 12:37 pm
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By "they" I mean Incomm, the people that issue VRs and Bancorp, the company that hires them to do so.

Incomm and Bancorp make money off my VR fees as if I was letting $250k sit in a Vanilla account doing nothing.

If anything, the retailers are the big losers. It's almost certain that their kickback (if it even exists) is less than the CC transaction fee.

Given these numbers, I believe you would be crazy to think Incomm and Bancorp care about my CA activity.
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Old Mar 8, 2013, 12:56 pm
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Originally Posted by bobfather
By "they" I mean Incomm, the people that issue VRs and Bancorp, the company that hires them to do so.

Incomm and Bancorp make money off my VR fees as if I was letting $250k sit in a Vanilla account doing nothing.

If anything, the retailers are the big losers. It's almost certain that their kickback (if it even exists) is less than the CC transaction fee.

Given these numbers, I believe you would be crazy to think Incomm and Bancorp care about my CA activity.
Bobfather, use 'quote' feature every time you respond, so that we know what are you referring to.
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Old Mar 8, 2013, 1:00 pm
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Originally Posted by bobfather
By "they" I mean Incomm, the people that issue VRs and Bancorp, the company that hires them to do so.

Incomm and Bancorp make money off my VR fees as if I was letting $250k sit in a Vanilla account doing nothing.

If anything, the retailers are the big losers. It's almost certain that their kickback (if it even exists) is less than the CC transaction fee.

Given these numbers, I believe you would be crazy to think Incomm and Bancorp care about my CA activity.
Maybe they care a little. I thought they share in a slice of the transaction cost for purchases. I dont know this but this was my assumption.
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Old Mar 8, 2013, 1:27 pm
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Originally Posted by bobfather
Incomm and Bancorp make money off my VR fees as if I was letting $250k sit in a Vanilla account doing nothing
Since the 2 year treasury rate is around 0.25%, you are actually letting over a million imaginary dollars sit in a Vanilla account
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Old Mar 8, 2013, 2:27 pm
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Originally Posted by bobfather
By "they" I mean Incomm, the people that issue VRs and Bancorp, the company that hires them to do so.

Incomm and Bancorp make money off my VR fees as if I was letting $250k sit in a Vanilla account doing nothing.

If anything, the retailers are the big losers. It's almost certain that their kickback (if it even exists) is less than the CC transaction fee.

Given these numbers, I believe you would be crazy to think Incomm and Bancorp care about my CA activity.
I don't even give it a second thought either. They make tons off me.
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Old Mar 8, 2013, 2:48 pm
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Originally Posted by bobfather
By "they" I mean Incomm, the people that issue VRs and Bancorp, the company that hires them to do so.


it is apparent you do not understand how this relationship works which nullifies the rest of your reasoning.
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Old Mar 8, 2013, 7:58 pm
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Originally Posted by swintec
it is apparent you do not understand how this relationship works which nullifies the rest of your reasoning.
Right, some people have ability to take the discussion off track
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Old Mar 8, 2013, 8:01 pm
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Can u deposit vanilla gift/debit cards in bank?

Excuse me I new to the game. Will banks take money off the debit/ gift cards?
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Old Mar 8, 2013, 8:07 pm
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Like, Vanilla Visa gift card, and OneVanilla gift card? Nope, banks won't take money off of them.
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Old Mar 8, 2013, 8:29 pm
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So what is the advantage if cant get cash back in the bank? using them like cash? Can u pu Walmart money orders backing the bank?
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Old Mar 8, 2013, 8:48 pm
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you buy dollar coins from the mint with them
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Old Mar 8, 2013, 8:50 pm
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Originally Posted by therivler1
you buy dollar coins from the mint with them
Shhh. Don't spill the beans. It's people like you that ruin these forums for the rest of us!!
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