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This is the Serve thread. Post questions or information concerning other topics in the appropriate threads elsewhere in this forum.

For additional information on using prepaid debit cards, see PIN available now for Visa/MC prepaid debit cards.

Mentions of Softcard (formerly ISIS) are purely incidental to setting up and using Serve/Softcard. Softcard does not hold money, and you cannot load to it.


You cannot make an ACH pull from Serve. The direct deposit account and routing numbers are for deposits only.

https://www.serve.com/#/add-cash

If your card doesn't say "debit" on the front, it isn't a debit card.


Loads at 7-11 and CVS are cash only. Debit cards are NOT allowed.

Loads at Walmart have been confirmed with debit cards. Self checkout does not work for loading Serve. Many Walmart stores are enforcing a rule against the use of prepaid debit cards when loading, even though the register and the MCE do not enforce. Do not make your prepaid debit cards visible. Show them a bank debit card if asked, then discreetly use your prepaid card when asked to swipe. Otherwise, you may be asked by management to never visit the MC (Walmart Money Center) again to load.

Debit loading at Family Dollar appears to be limited to $500 per day per store total (not per person or per account). Whoever gets there first gets the load for the day. Troubleshooting loading problems at FD


Normal Serve
  • Serve loading via VR/MP or WM/FD load: $2,500/day and $5,000 total per calendar month
  • Online Debit Card Load - $200/day and $1,000/month (NOT a gift card with a PIN that some people call a "Debit card")
  • Online Credit Card Load - $200/day and $1,000/month
  • Checking/Savings Account - $2,000/month
  • Checks - $2,000/day and $10,000/month
  • ATM Withdrawals - $750/day and $2,000/month

You can combine the three methods above and load a total of $7k/month to a single Serve account for miles/points earning purposes, but beware that you're also subject to a $10,000/month add money limit which also includes check deposits, ACH transfers, and Serve transfers.

Serve/Softcard Check if your phone/network is compatible
  • Serve loading via VR/MP or WM/FD load: $2,500/day and $5,000 total per calendar month
  • Online Debit Card Load - $500/day and $1,500/month (NOT a gift card with a PIN that some people call a "Debit card")
  • Online Credit Card Load - $500/day and $1,500/month
  • Checking/Savings Account - $2,000/month
  • Checks - $2,000/day and $10,000/month
  • ATM Withdrawals - $750/day and $2,000/month

You can combine the three methods above and load a total of $8k/month to a single Serve account for miles/points earning purposes, but beware that you're also subject to a $10,000/month add money limit which also includes check deposits, ACH transfers, and Serve transfers.

The SD card in the iPhone case used for Softcard is account specific. Once an account has been registered to a card, it cannot be used for another.

Temp Serve
You can only load a maximum of $500/day, $1000/month on a temporary card. Once you get your permanent card, then you can load more. The initial $500 when you purchase the temp card doesn't count against the $5,000/month load limit.


Online Credit Card Loads
Only one card can be linked at a time.

As of 10/09/14, coding of credit card loads changed. In general, Mastercard and American Express cards post as before; see below for information on point earning. Visa cards transact as a cash advance and, therefore, require available CA limit; although most cards post as a purchase.

The Chase Ink Bold is a charge card and has no cash advance ability.

Treated as purchase, earns cashback/points/miles:
  • Bank of America (FIA) (MasterCard, American Express)
  • Barclaycard (Mastercard, Visa)
  • Capital One (Mastercard, Visa)
  • Chase (MasterCard, Visa)
  • Citi (MasterCard, American Express)
  • Discover

Treated as purchase, but doesn't earn points/miles:
  • American Express (May count toward minimum spend)

Posts as a cash advance:
For online CC/DC loads, the name on the Serve account is supposed to match the name of the primary or joint cardholder. So using someone else's CC/DB card to load a Serve account is not allowed.

Several people have reported no problems with loading with an AU card in the Serve account holder's name. Increase your chances by making sure the AUs social security number is on file with the Credit Card. YMMV.

When adding a new card you will usually need to call Serve Account security (1-800-555-4318) for verification of the new card on the second load try. This verification usually requires uploading of a photo of your ID and the credit card. You may pre-emptively avoid the error by going to the above website, logging in, and uploading a scan of a photo ID and the card you are trying to add. You may call back to expedite approval.


Online Debit Card Loads
For online debit load, only use of bank-issued cards is allowed. The use of pre-paid debit cards (Netspend, Paypower, Univision, Paypal*, etc.) and VGC/MGC/AGCs is not allowed. While initial transactions may work, your account will eventually be flagged.


Switching to Serve or Serve/Softcard
Helpful instruction post, latest. Thanks raeneye.

Also see this thread: Switching from Serve to BlueBird - 31 day wait???

Switching to Serve/Softcard
  1. Call up Bluebird or Serve and close account. Make sure your account is at $0.00 before calling. Just close it, don't ask for a temp Serve or anything. CSR will say account is now closed and you have 30 days to change your mind should you decide to re-open it.
  2. Download the Softcard mobile app from Apple App Store or Google Play Store. If you're an iPhone user you have to buy the NFC CashWrap case from your carrier store.
  3. Launch Softcard Mobile App and create Softcard account. You'll be asked if you want to open a Serve account; Yes you do. Start the registration through Softcard mobile app for a Serve account, once you are finished you will be told you will receive an Email from Amex with your account approval. I waited a few hours and called Serve customer service like the wiki says and completed the registration.
  4. Once I got off the phone with Serve I received an email from Serve where I verified my account and email; at this point Amex Serve is open.
  5. Launch Softcard Mobile app again click add new
  6. Activate card with Softcard and select Amex Serve. Follow the instructions & you're good to add. Once this is complete a Serve Card will populate in Softcard. Must activate physical card to get full load limits. Check account status and it automatically credits to your serve account based on who you signed up with. (Verizon - $25, T-Mobile - $50, AT&T - $30 (For AT&T: Get $15 w/activation. Earn additional $15 w/account replenishment))

Switching from BB to Serve
  1. Login to BB account, bring account balance to Zero, (By Bill Pay, Send money, etc..)
  2. Call BB, tell them that you want to open a serve account and close your current BB account. after they check everything they will say something like: "Your account will be permanently closed after 31 days, you can reopen it within 31 day if you change your mind, and you can apply for your new Serve account now, just make sure use the exact same register info from BB."
  3. at this point BB is closed. next morning, goto CVS and get a temporary Serve card (only with cash), load $500, ($2.95 waived, Yeah!!)
  4. get back home, register temporary Serve online, First error: "phone number already registered, please try a different number" could be the my BB's ghost account still showing up on their system, could be my info is not match my BB's registration? i'm not really sure at this point. What I did is keep the same number but change from Cell phone to home phone. and registration went through
  5. after the register and login, second error: "We're still processing your application. Please check your email for an update"
  6. I have see people on the thread reported waiting for weeks for the same message, So, I pickup the phone and called them, ask them to speed up the process.
  7. CSR, told me that my account went to "account security protection department" transfer me to them.
  8. at account security protection department, they told me need to call back on my phone number which I registered to verify.
  9. after the call back of verification, CSR told me that my new Serve account is active now, email address verification will be send with in 5 minutes, permanent card will be received within 7-10 days.
  10. CSR also told me the I can load and spend on the temporary card, but not bill pay.

The number to call to approve your registration after closing Bluebird: Serve Account security 1-800-555-4318



Loading with debit card at Walmart register
Loads at register over $500 will sometimes trigger ID requirement. There is a limit of four swipes per transaction; this means your card plus three payments.

Training a WM cashier:
  • If the WM cashier doesn't know how to load the card, advise them to enter "70" then press "action code".
  • If you are using a temp card that doesn't have your name on it, you can swipe the card from your side of the terminal. The WM rep never has to touch any of your cards. The screen will say "enter account." That is your prompt to slide the card.
  • The terminal will ask the WM employee if you are loading in multiples of $2000. Advise them to enter "no."
  • Avoid saying gift card. Always refer to your card as a debit card.

Error Messages:
DEBIT NOT AVAILABLE
Received when I used a card I thought I had activated but hadn't.

DEBIT NOT APPROVED
Received when the card's monthly load limit had been reached.

TENDER NOT ALLOWED
Card was incorrectly read, or wrong PIN entered.

HOST TIMEOUT
Connection problems. The GC may be drained but the transaction should reverse itself, and funds will become available again. Try again later.


Using Serve
For online bill pay
  • You can pay the credit card that you used to buy VRs/GCs
  • Error 1302 means that you have 1 pending payment the same amount as the one you just submitted. For example, 1000 bill pay to sapphire preferred from Friday and then on Saturday you submit another bill pay for 1000 to sapphire preferred, you will get this error.
  • Tip: if using online bill pay to the same place multiple times, vary your amounts by $0.01 to make it easier to track since your confirmation number does not match the tracking number on your credit card statement



For bank transfers
Under Settings --> Funding & Transfers --> Bank & Cards --> U.S. Bank Account, you can add your bank info and transfer funds from your Serve card directly to your bank. The bank account must be verified, either by the standard "deposit 2 small sums into your account, such as $0.23 & $0.42" method, or doing an "instant verification" by actually logging into your bank account while still logged into Serve.
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Old Oct 6, 2014, 3:30 pm
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Anyone know if it's possible to load serve at Walmart in Puerto Rico?
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Old Oct 6, 2014, 3:34 pm
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Originally Posted by DeErEtYn
Anyone know if it's possible to load serve at Walmart in Puerto Rico?
BB is offered in PR and BB is a WM exclusive product. If your WM can load BB it can load Serve.
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Old Oct 6, 2014, 7:04 pm
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So I closed my serve account. It disappeared from my softcard wallet. I then restarted the app, went to add a card. Choose serve and signed up for a serve account (saw mentions of isis in the terms). Yet my new account has the same $200 load limit for debit/credit.

Followed the directions found in this thread (I think). Anyone else had this issue recently?
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Old Oct 6, 2014, 7:09 pm
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Originally Posted by anam
So I closed my serve account. It disappeared from my softcard wallet. I then restarted the app, went to add a card. Choose serve and signed up for a serve account (saw mentions of isis in the terms). Yet my new account has the same $200 load limit for debit/credit.

Followed the directions found in this thread (I think). Anyone else had this issue recently?
Wait for the perm card before complaining . This has been documented many times. Regardless of what it says on the screen, once you get your perm card and activate it, the system will allow you to do $500 transactions. Until then don't do any loads.

Just so you know with Normal Serve, the Debit Card and Credit Card Load fields are greyed out until you activate the perm card. With Softserve the fields are not necessarily greyed out but the limits are still imposed until you activate the perm card.

Last edited by ericdabbs; Oct 6, 2014 at 7:17 pm
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Old Oct 6, 2014, 7:13 pm
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Originally Posted by ericdabbs
Wait for the perm card before complaining . This has been documented many times. Regardless of what it says on the screen, once you get your perm card and activate it, the system will allow you to do $500 transactions. Until then don't do any loads.
Thank you for that response. I've been stalking this thread for some time now but missed this part. Vaguely recall someone else complaining about this issue but not the solution.

I did add a credit card (but did not do a load). Hopefully I didn't mess it up for myself.
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Old Oct 6, 2014, 8:17 pm
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Originally Posted by anam
So I closed my serve account. It disappeared from my softcard wallet. I then restarted the app, went to add a card. Choose serve and signed up for a serve account (saw mentions of isis in the terms). Yet my new account has the same $200 load limit for debit/credit.

Followed the directions found in this thread (I think). Anyone else had this issue recently?

When I did that (closed my non-ISIS acct) I wasn't able to create a new Serve/ISIS account until after exactly 30 days passed. I called Serve and they told me all I would be doing was reopening my original account. So I did my $1K for that month, closed the account, waited 30 days and had no problem with the new account and the $1500 (and another $30 "bonus as well). From what I have been reading here, that should not have happened, but it did to me (last month).

As for deposits BEFORE getting your physical card, you should be able to have made $200 X 2. I was. Once I got the card I was able to do $500 at a time.
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Old Oct 7, 2014, 9:03 am
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Softcard perk at vending machine

Not sure if nationwide, but here in DFW, the snack machines have a promotion going on -

Make 4 purchases, and you get $5 worth of free stuff (compliments of ISIS).

Hence, you buy $4 worth of snacks (if all for $1 each, then basically free since you get the 50x$1 credit), then on top of that, you get 5 more snacks for free.

In theory you get 9 snacks for free, and can repeat this 12 times, or total of 108 bags of chips free per month per phone
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Old Oct 7, 2014, 11:19 am
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Trying to send in the documents for a new credit card verification. Serve sent me a link, following that link I uploaded 1 document from ipad but it doesn't let me upload the second one. It says you already uploaded this document. Went to my desktop, tried to upload an account summary as a pdf file, as a jpg file - no luck, says choose a valid document to upload. Anybody had the same issue? Called Serve they could not help. They cannot remove the one I already uploaded. I spent more then one hour trying this way and that way. The only thing is left to do is fax which I do not have and will have to spend another hours googling which free online fax service to choose...
Frustrating... Anybody has an advice?
Sorry for the useless post... Need to vent.
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Old Oct 7, 2014, 11:39 am
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Originally Posted by SRFL
Trying to send in the documents for a new credit card verification. Serve sent me a link, following that link I uploaded 1 document from ipad but it doesn't let me upload the second one. It says you already uploaded this document. Went to my desktop, tried to upload an account summary as a pdf file, as a jpg file - no luck, says choose a valid document to upload. Anybody had the same issue? Called Serve they could not help. They cannot remove the one I already uploaded. I spent more then one hour trying this way and that way. The only thing is left to do is fax which I do not have and will have to spend another hours googling which free online fax service to choose...
Frustrating... Anybody has an advice?
Sorry for the useless post... Need to vent.
Try HelloFax
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Old Oct 7, 2014, 11:46 am
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Free Fax Machine

Originally Posted by SRFL
Trying to send in the documents for a new credit card verification. Serve sent me a link, following that link I uploaded 1 document from ipad but it doesn't let me upload the second one. It says you already uploaded this document. Went to my desktop, tried to upload an account summary as a pdf file, as a jpg file - no luck, says choose a valid document to upload. Anybody had the same issue? Called Serve they could not help. They cannot remove the one I already uploaded. I spent more then one hour trying this way and that way. The only thing is left to do is fax which I do not have and will have to spend another hours googling which free online fax service to choose...
Frustrating... Anybody has an advice?
Sorry for the useless post... Need to vent.
This is off-topic for the forum, but directly relates to the posting above. There are tons of "broken" ink-jet multifunction printers available on Freecycle (hopefully you have one in your area). Typically these won't print or copy, because the inkjets are clogged and it's not worth the time and trouble to clean them yourself, and too expensive to have it done professionally. BUT THEY WORK GREAT AS A SCANNER OR FAX MACHINE! Just a thought...
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Old Oct 7, 2014, 12:04 pm
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I got this from Amex Serve .. Anyone else seen this before?

During a recent review, we noticed irregular activity on your American Express Serve® Account. For your security and protection, some features on your Account have been suspended while we conduct further investigation.

In order to restore these account features, please help us verify your identity by sending a readable copy of the following documents within ten days of the date on this email:

Valid Picture ID
A valid driver's license card OR
A valid state issued ID OR
A valid Government ID Card (e.g. Green Card)OR
A valid United States Passport

A copy of your Bank Statement from XX Account Ending in N/A, which is dated within the last 3 months, and shows your name, address and account number.
A copy of the front of your card OR the Credit Card Statement of the Credit Card Ending in XXX . If sending a Statement, it must be dated within the last 3 months, and show your name, address and last four digits of your account number

A copy of the front of the Debit Card or Payroll Card Ending in N/A.

For your convenience, these documents can be sent in one of the following three ways:

Secure Document Upload:
You can securely send your documents using your desktop or supported mobile device by:

Clicking here
Logging in with your account credentials and
Uploading your documents

OR Fax:
Fax your document(s) to 1-855-415-7125.

OR Mail:
American Express Customer Relations
4315 South 2700 West
Salt Lake City, Utah 84184

Please call Account Protection Services at 1-800-555-4318 if you have any questions or concerns.

Thanks,

The American Express Serve Team
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Old Oct 7, 2014, 12:07 pm
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Originally Posted by kd1000
I got this from Amex Serve .. Anyone else seen this before?

...
I got that on my wife's Serve account when I switched cards. I did it, and everything re-activated.
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Old Oct 7, 2014, 12:08 pm
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This is a standard email that you get when you use a new CC or DC to load serve. Just upload the documents and call them.
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Old Oct 7, 2014, 12:38 pm
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Originally Posted by SRFL
Trying to send in the documents for a new credit card verification. Serve sent me a link, following that link I uploaded 1 document from ipad but it doesn't let me upload the second one. It says you already uploaded this document. Went to my desktop, tried to upload an account summary as a pdf file, as a jpg file - no luck, says choose a valid document to upload. Anybody had the same issue? Called Serve they could not help. They cannot remove the one I already uploaded. I spent more then one hour trying this way and that way. The only thing is left to do is fax which I do not have and will have to spend another hours googling which free online fax service to choose...
Frustrating... Anybody has an advice?
Sorry for the useless post... Need to vent.
faxzero.com It's all online and it's free.
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Old Oct 7, 2014, 1:08 pm
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Originally Posted by aceofcards
Try HelloFax
Originally Posted by cdancer20
faxzero.com It's all online and it's free.
Thank you. Will mark those for future use. Will be changing the card on the second account next week.
Managed to load the second file from the cell phone, while waiting in a car line.
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