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Old Oct 25, 2013, 11:21 am
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It's a literacy test that's easy to pass.

This is the Serve thread. Post questions or information concerning other topics in the appropriate threads elsewhere in this forum.

For additional information on using prepaid debit cards, see PIN available now for Visa/MC prepaid debit cards.

Mentions of Softcard (formerly ISIS) are purely incidental to setting up and using Serve/Softcard. Softcard does not hold money, and you cannot load to it.


You cannot make an ACH pull from Serve. The direct deposit account and routing numbers are for deposits only.

https://www.serve.com/#/add-cash

If your card doesn't say "debit" on the front, it isn't a debit card.


Loads at 7-11 and CVS are cash only. Debit cards are NOT allowed.

Loads at Walmart have been confirmed with debit cards. Self checkout does not work for loading Serve. Many Walmart stores are enforcing a rule against the use of prepaid debit cards when loading, even though the register and the MCE do not enforce. Do not make your prepaid debit cards visible. Show them a bank debit card if asked, then discreetly use your prepaid card when asked to swipe. Otherwise, you may be asked by management to never visit the MC (Walmart Money Center) again to load.

Debit loading at Family Dollar appears to be limited to $500 per day per store total (not per person or per account). Whoever gets there first gets the load for the day. Troubleshooting loading problems at FD


Normal Serve
  • Serve loading via VR/MP or WM/FD load: $2,500/day and $5,000 total per calendar month
  • Online Debit Card Load - $200/day and $1,000/month (NOT a gift card with a PIN that some people call a "Debit card")
  • Online Credit Card Load - $200/day and $1,000/month
  • Checking/Savings Account - $2,000/month
  • Checks - $2,000/day and $10,000/month
  • ATM Withdrawals - $750/day and $2,000/month

You can combine the three methods above and load a total of $7k/month to a single Serve account for miles/points earning purposes, but beware that you're also subject to a $10,000/month add money limit which also includes check deposits, ACH transfers, and Serve transfers.

Serve/Softcard Check if your phone/network is compatible
  • Serve loading via VR/MP or WM/FD load: $2,500/day and $5,000 total per calendar month
  • Online Debit Card Load - $500/day and $1,500/month (NOT a gift card with a PIN that some people call a "Debit card")
  • Online Credit Card Load - $500/day and $1,500/month
  • Checking/Savings Account - $2,000/month
  • Checks - $2,000/day and $10,000/month
  • ATM Withdrawals - $750/day and $2,000/month

You can combine the three methods above and load a total of $8k/month to a single Serve account for miles/points earning purposes, but beware that you're also subject to a $10,000/month add money limit which also includes check deposits, ACH transfers, and Serve transfers.

The SD card in the iPhone case used for Softcard is account specific. Once an account has been registered to a card, it cannot be used for another.

Temp Serve
You can only load a maximum of $500/day, $1000/month on a temporary card. Once you get your permanent card, then you can load more. The initial $500 when you purchase the temp card doesn't count against the $5,000/month load limit.


Online Credit Card Loads
Only one card can be linked at a time.

As of 10/09/14, coding of credit card loads changed. In general, Mastercard and American Express cards post as before; see below for information on point earning. Visa cards transact as a cash advance and, therefore, require available CA limit; although most cards post as a purchase.

The Chase Ink Bold is a charge card and has no cash advance ability.

Treated as purchase, earns cashback/points/miles:
  • Bank of America (FIA) (MasterCard, American Express)
  • Barclaycard (Mastercard, Visa)
  • Capital One (Mastercard, Visa)
  • Chase (MasterCard, Visa)
  • Citi (MasterCard, American Express)
  • Discover

Treated as purchase, but doesn't earn points/miles:
  • American Express (May count toward minimum spend)

Posts as a cash advance:
For online CC/DC loads, the name on the Serve account is supposed to match the name of the primary or joint cardholder. So using someone else's CC/DB card to load a Serve account is not allowed.

Several people have reported no problems with loading with an AU card in the Serve account holder's name. Increase your chances by making sure the AUs social security number is on file with the Credit Card. YMMV.

When adding a new card you will usually need to call Serve Account security (1-800-555-4318) for verification of the new card on the second load try. This verification usually requires uploading of a photo of your ID and the credit card. You may pre-emptively avoid the error by going to the above website, logging in, and uploading a scan of a photo ID and the card you are trying to add. You may call back to expedite approval.


Online Debit Card Loads
For online debit load, only use of bank-issued cards is allowed. The use of pre-paid debit cards (Netspend, Paypower, Univision, Paypal*, etc.) and VGC/MGC/AGCs is not allowed. While initial transactions may work, your account will eventually be flagged.


Switching to Serve or Serve/Softcard
Helpful instruction post, latest. Thanks raeneye.

Also see this thread: Switching from Serve to BlueBird - 31 day wait???

Switching to Serve/Softcard
  1. Call up Bluebird or Serve and close account. Make sure your account is at $0.00 before calling. Just close it, don't ask for a temp Serve or anything. CSR will say account is now closed and you have 30 days to change your mind should you decide to re-open it.
  2. Download the Softcard mobile app from Apple App Store or Google Play Store. If you're an iPhone user you have to buy the NFC CashWrap case from your carrier store.
  3. Launch Softcard Mobile App and create Softcard account. You'll be asked if you want to open a Serve account; Yes you do. Start the registration through Softcard mobile app for a Serve account, once you are finished you will be told you will receive an Email from Amex with your account approval. I waited a few hours and called Serve customer service like the wiki says and completed the registration.
  4. Once I got off the phone with Serve I received an email from Serve where I verified my account and email; at this point Amex Serve is open.
  5. Launch Softcard Mobile app again click add new
  6. Activate card with Softcard and select Amex Serve. Follow the instructions & you're good to add. Once this is complete a Serve Card will populate in Softcard. Must activate physical card to get full load limits. Check account status and it automatically credits to your serve account based on who you signed up with. (Verizon - $25, T-Mobile - $50, AT&T - $30 (For AT&T: Get $15 w/activation. Earn additional $15 w/account replenishment))

Switching from BB to Serve
  1. Login to BB account, bring account balance to Zero, (By Bill Pay, Send money, etc..)
  2. Call BB, tell them that you want to open a serve account and close your current BB account. after they check everything they will say something like: "Your account will be permanently closed after 31 days, you can reopen it within 31 day if you change your mind, and you can apply for your new Serve account now, just make sure use the exact same register info from BB."
  3. at this point BB is closed. next morning, goto CVS and get a temporary Serve card (only with cash), load $500, ($2.95 waived, Yeah!!)
  4. get back home, register temporary Serve online, First error: "phone number already registered, please try a different number" could be the my BB's ghost account still showing up on their system, could be my info is not match my BB's registration? i'm not really sure at this point. What I did is keep the same number but change from Cell phone to home phone. and registration went through
  5. after the register and login, second error: "We're still processing your application. Please check your email for an update"
  6. I have see people on the thread reported waiting for weeks for the same message, So, I pickup the phone and called them, ask them to speed up the process.
  7. CSR, told me that my account went to "account security protection department" transfer me to them.
  8. at account security protection department, they told me need to call back on my phone number which I registered to verify.
  9. after the call back of verification, CSR told me that my new Serve account is active now, email address verification will be send with in 5 minutes, permanent card will be received within 7-10 days.
  10. CSR also told me the I can load and spend on the temporary card, but not bill pay.

The number to call to approve your registration after closing Bluebird: Serve Account security 1-800-555-4318



Loading with debit card at Walmart register
Loads at register over $500 will sometimes trigger ID requirement. There is a limit of four swipes per transaction; this means your card plus three payments.

Training a WM cashier:
  • If the WM cashier doesn't know how to load the card, advise them to enter "70" then press "action code".
  • If you are using a temp card that doesn't have your name on it, you can swipe the card from your side of the terminal. The WM rep never has to touch any of your cards. The screen will say "enter account." That is your prompt to slide the card.
  • The terminal will ask the WM employee if you are loading in multiples of $2000. Advise them to enter "no."
  • Avoid saying gift card. Always refer to your card as a debit card.

Error Messages:
DEBIT NOT AVAILABLE
Received when I used a card I thought I had activated but hadn't.

DEBIT NOT APPROVED
Received when the card's monthly load limit had been reached.

TENDER NOT ALLOWED
Card was incorrectly read, or wrong PIN entered.

HOST TIMEOUT
Connection problems. The GC may be drained but the transaction should reverse itself, and funds will become available again. Try again later.


Using Serve
For online bill pay
  • You can pay the credit card that you used to buy VRs/GCs
  • Error 1302 means that you have 1 pending payment the same amount as the one you just submitted. For example, 1000 bill pay to sapphire preferred from Friday and then on Saturday you submit another bill pay for 1000 to sapphire preferred, you will get this error.
  • Tip: if using online bill pay to the same place multiple times, vary your amounts by $0.01 to make it easier to track since your confirmation number does not match the tracking number on your credit card statement



For bank transfers
Under Settings --> Funding & Transfers --> Bank & Cards --> U.S. Bank Account, you can add your bank info and transfer funds from your Serve card directly to your bank. The bank account must be verified, either by the standard "deposit 2 small sums into your account, such as $0.23 & $0.42" method, or doing an "instant verification" by actually logging into your bank account while still logged into Serve.
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Old Nov 12, 2014, 10:43 am
  #7921  
 
Join Date: Oct 2012
Posts: 486
Originally Posted by deaconx31
Got a "decline" message today at FD using a OV and sprinted here to see if anyone had seen this recently.
Me too. I thought it might have been a misactivated card but I checked online and the balance was there, with no mention of having swiped it at FD.
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Old Nov 12, 2014, 11:05 am
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Join Date: Oct 2014
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Nexus 5 and Softcard

Has anyone found a way to activate a Softcard account to use with Serve, using a Nexus 5 phone? I know it's not one of the phones listed in Softcard's supported phones list, but since it's basically an LG G2 in disguise, I wondered if maybe anyone had had any luck hacking it to somehow pretend to be a supported phone, in order to get through the activation.

Not sure if this complicates matters, but I'm using a prepaid T-Mo account, not a monthly contract plan.

The NFC payment feature doesn't really matter to me at all, but activating an enhanced Softcard account would be nice in order to have the higher monthly payment limits...
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Old Nov 12, 2014, 12:25 pm
  #7923  
 
Join Date: Aug 2013
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Originally Posted by itchyfeet123
Me too. I thought it might have been a misactivated card but I checked online and the balance was there, with no mention of having swiped it at FD.
Same thing happened to me today. Tried 2 different cards at 2 different FDs. Declined each time. Had previously loaded at those locations recently. No sign of load attempts on OVC GC transactions list or on Serve transactions.

Not good.
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Old Nov 12, 2014, 12:29 pm
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Join Date: Aug 2013
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One additional note: was trying to load $500. Haven't yet tried loading lesser amounts.
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Old Nov 12, 2014, 1:24 pm
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Join Date: Feb 2004
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Same issue here with FD load in Dallas. I loaded yesterday at the exact same store with a OV. Today, it was just showed "declined." Tried it twice with the clerk, but no dice.
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Old Nov 12, 2014, 1:40 pm
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Join Date: Dec 2012
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Posts: 39
The Wal-Mart OV thread is reporting a possible system glitch on BankCorp s side. Monitor that thread too for updates.
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Old Nov 12, 2014, 6:09 pm
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Join Date: Jan 2014
Posts: 91
Originally Posted by Julian Brennan
I think Serve had a little glitch over the weekend. I paid a bill and the page went unresponsive a second after I hit the "pay" button. I closed and tried again half an hour later. The amount had been withdrawn from my balance but nothing showed up in the transactions. Another half hour later the transaction did show up. I never got the confirmation email tho...
Originally Posted by DaveInLA
Good to know that I'm not the only one with problems over the weekend. But your transaction eventually showed up, mine still has not.
Did you see your payment posted on your receiving account? Mine was supposed to post today, but it did not show up. This is very unusual.

Update: Nevermind. Credit line increased as expected. Should be posted tomorrow.

Last edited by romeogg; Nov 12, 2014 at 7:29 pm
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Old Nov 12, 2014, 7:14 pm
  #7928  
 
Join Date: Oct 2014
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I want to pay my BB&T mortgage and con edison bills with credit card, will serve work and is it my best option? I don't want to be mailing in checks every month though.

I see that serve says it can pay your bills:
You'll save time and postage by paying bills like your car payment or phone bill online (electronic transfers take as little as two days) and by storing payee information.
But how does it work? Or is there a list of payees? BBT and conedison let me do an echeck payment. Is there a routing number and account number I can use from Serve? Or is different?

Also, is the list of credit cards you can load Serve with on the wiki up to date?
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Old Nov 12, 2014, 7:36 pm
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Join Date: Jul 2014
Posts: 3,688
Originally Posted by sdfly
I want to pay my BB&T mortgage and con edison bills with credit card, will serve work and is it my best option? I don't want to be mailing in checks every month though.

I see that serve says it can pay your bills:

But how does it work? Or is there a list of payees? BBT and conedison let me do an echeck payment. Is there a routing number and account number I can use from Serve? Or is different?

Also, is the list of credit cards you can load Serve with on the wiki up to date?
Click Pay Bill and on the search box, type in those payees. If they are in Serve's list, you will just be asked to type in your account number and it'll be sent to the payee.

IF your payee is NOT in their list, just add it manually. Make sure to type the correct mailing addy of the payee. If you get an error message, just shorten the nickname of the payee BUT make sure you type in your account number correctly. Sometimes, you'll run into problems with the phone number, so if it's a toll free number, remove the 1 and do not put spaces between the numbers. Then press Save and Pay or if you're not ready to pay, just press Save. HTH.
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Old Nov 12, 2014, 8:14 pm
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Join Date: Oct 2014
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Originally Posted by romeogg
Did you see your payment posted on your receiving account? Mine was supposed to post today, but it did not show up.
Just got the payment received email from Amex and all is good and on time.
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Old Nov 13, 2014, 12:36 am
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Join Date: Feb 2006
Posts: 203
What are the best credit cards to auto load to Serve?

I searched for a thread or post that focuses on this, but couldn't find one. I made the switch from Bluebird to Softserve. With the Isis / Softcard load bonuses, I'm curious: What are the best credit cards to auto load to Serve? (I understand this is quickly evolving as banks flag Serve loads as cash advances.)

I'm currently maxing out $5,000 monthly with Chase Ink / Staples $200 VGC. But I'm seeing $1,500 that I could credit charge in ($1,000 for non-Softcard) and another $1,500 ($1,000) that I could debit into the Serve account.

What are your favorite cards to auto load to Serve? What cards do you auto charge? What card do you debit with and how / which credit cards did you "transfer" into the debit?

I have both a Club Carlson Business and Personal, but was disappointed to learn that US Bank now flags those loads as cash advances. I'm thinking that a PayPal Business Debit might be my way around US Bank cash advances, but haven't tried yet.

I'm thinking of getting rid of my Chase Sapphire Preferred and waiting for my Barclaycard US Airways card to convert to an Arrival Plus card, then auto charging that. I have AMEX Premier Rewards Gold, Delta Skymiles Gold Personal and Business, but plan to get rid of these, too. I'd love a Hyatt card, but I tend to think the Chase Ink will serve my Hyatt needs better (but Gold Passport status would be fantastic)! There have gotta be better cards out there! Thanks, everyone!

Last edited by christof; Nov 13, 2014 at 12:47 am
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Old Nov 13, 2014, 10:35 am
  #7932  
 
Join Date: Jul 2013
Location: DFW,OVB (Russia)
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Posts: 1,823
Data point
Tried to load serve using my citi AA visa with 0 cash limit, declined for attempted cash advance.

Did the same $95 load using a citi AA exec MasterCard with a $10 cash limit and had no problems

So, I think it's safe to assume that the Cash Advance coding has sometimes to do with visa as opposed to MasterCard and/or any individual bank.
I tried to post this in the thread but it's closed
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/manuf...confirmed.html

Last edited by rgAAFT; Nov 13, 2014 at 11:48 am
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Old Nov 13, 2014, 11:40 am
  #7933  
 
Join Date: Jan 2011
Posts: 9
Serve updates

Data point:
I am new to serve. Loaded 200 wit my discover card no problem. Additional load triggered audit. Upload ability is currently broken.

Question: Will below cycle trigger any issue/audit? Seems like a viable cycle but am not sure if it will trigger potential issue? I don't want to use bill pay too much because I have too many merchants I have to deal with if I switch pay bill services.
Credit card load --> Serve --> Bank
or
Credit card load --> Serve --> Bill pay to the same Credit card used for load.

Thanks!
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Old Nov 13, 2014, 1:08 pm
  #7934  
 
Join Date: Oct 2012
Location: BOS, PVD
Programs: SPG Gold, Hyatt Pt, CBP Global Entry
Posts: 96
Originally Posted by itchyfeet123
Me too. I thought it might have been a misactivated card but I checked online and the balance was there, with no mention of having swiped it at FD.
Originally Posted by johnkphotography
Same thing happened to me today. Tried 2 different cards at 2 different FDs. Declined each time. Had previously loaded at those locations recently. No sign of load attempts on OVC GC transactions list or on Serve transactions.

Not good.
Originally Posted by ScottTexas
Same issue here with FD load in Dallas. I loaded yesterday at the exact same store with a OV. Today, it was just showed "declined." Tried it twice with the clerk, but no dice.
I loaded 500 to my Serve today at FD in RI and everything went thru fine using my OV.
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Old Nov 13, 2014, 5:14 pm
  #7935  
 
Join Date: Jun 2014
Posts: 25
Originally Posted by wangfq
Data point:
I am new to serve. Loaded 200 wit my discover card no problem. Additional load triggered audit. Upload ability is currently broken.

Question: Will below cycle trigger any issue/audit? Seems like a viable cycle but am not sure if it will trigger potential issue? I don't want to use bill pay too much because I have too many merchants I have to deal with if I switch pay bill services.
Credit card load --> Serve --> Bank
read wiki again, where it says no ACH to the bank
or
Credit card load --> Serve --> Bill pay to the same Credit card used for load.
I would say no if you want to be safe
Thanks!
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