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Old Oct 25, 2013, 11:21 am
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Read the wiki before posting a question.
It's a literacy test that's easy to pass.

This is the Serve thread. Post questions or information concerning other topics in the appropriate threads elsewhere in this forum.

For additional information on using prepaid debit cards, see PIN available now for Visa/MC prepaid debit cards.

Mentions of Softcard (formerly ISIS) are purely incidental to setting up and using Serve/Softcard. Softcard does not hold money, and you cannot load to it.


You cannot make an ACH pull from Serve. The direct deposit account and routing numbers are for deposits only.

https://www.serve.com/#/add-cash

If your card doesn't say "debit" on the front, it isn't a debit card.


Loads at 7-11 and CVS are cash only. Debit cards are NOT allowed.

Loads at Walmart have been confirmed with debit cards. Self checkout does not work for loading Serve. Many Walmart stores are enforcing a rule against the use of prepaid debit cards when loading, even though the register and the MCE do not enforce. Do not make your prepaid debit cards visible. Show them a bank debit card if asked, then discreetly use your prepaid card when asked to swipe. Otherwise, you may be asked by management to never visit the MC (Walmart Money Center) again to load.

Debit loading at Family Dollar appears to be limited to $500 per day per store total (not per person or per account). Whoever gets there first gets the load for the day. Troubleshooting loading problems at FD


Normal Serve
  • Serve loading via VR/MP or WM/FD load: $2,500/day and $5,000 total per calendar month
  • Online Debit Card Load - $200/day and $1,000/month (NOT a gift card with a PIN that some people call a "Debit card")
  • Online Credit Card Load - $200/day and $1,000/month
  • Checking/Savings Account - $2,000/month
  • Checks - $2,000/day and $10,000/month
  • ATM Withdrawals - $750/day and $2,000/month

You can combine the three methods above and load a total of $7k/month to a single Serve account for miles/points earning purposes, but beware that you're also subject to a $10,000/month add money limit which also includes check deposits, ACH transfers, and Serve transfers.

Serve/Softcard Check if your phone/network is compatible
  • Serve loading via VR/MP or WM/FD load: $2,500/day and $5,000 total per calendar month
  • Online Debit Card Load - $500/day and $1,500/month (NOT a gift card with a PIN that some people call a "Debit card")
  • Online Credit Card Load - $500/day and $1,500/month
  • Checking/Savings Account - $2,000/month
  • Checks - $2,000/day and $10,000/month
  • ATM Withdrawals - $750/day and $2,000/month

You can combine the three methods above and load a total of $8k/month to a single Serve account for miles/points earning purposes, but beware that you're also subject to a $10,000/month add money limit which also includes check deposits, ACH transfers, and Serve transfers.

The SD card in the iPhone case used for Softcard is account specific. Once an account has been registered to a card, it cannot be used for another.

Temp Serve
You can only load a maximum of $500/day, $1000/month on a temporary card. Once you get your permanent card, then you can load more. The initial $500 when you purchase the temp card doesn't count against the $5,000/month load limit.


Online Credit Card Loads
Only one card can be linked at a time.

As of 10/09/14, coding of credit card loads changed. In general, Mastercard and American Express cards post as before; see below for information on point earning. Visa cards transact as a cash advance and, therefore, require available CA limit; although most cards post as a purchase.

The Chase Ink Bold is a charge card and has no cash advance ability.

Treated as purchase, earns cashback/points/miles:
  • Bank of America (FIA) (MasterCard, American Express)
  • Barclaycard (Mastercard, Visa)
  • Capital One (Mastercard, Visa)
  • Chase (MasterCard, Visa)
  • Citi (MasterCard, American Express)
  • Discover

Treated as purchase, but doesn't earn points/miles:
  • American Express (May count toward minimum spend)

Posts as a cash advance:
For online CC/DC loads, the name on the Serve account is supposed to match the name of the primary or joint cardholder. So using someone else's CC/DB card to load a Serve account is not allowed.

Several people have reported no problems with loading with an AU card in the Serve account holder's name. Increase your chances by making sure the AUs social security number is on file with the Credit Card. YMMV.

When adding a new card you will usually need to call Serve Account security (1-800-555-4318) for verification of the new card on the second load try. This verification usually requires uploading of a photo of your ID and the credit card. You may pre-emptively avoid the error by going to the above website, logging in, and uploading a scan of a photo ID and the card you are trying to add. You may call back to expedite approval.


Online Debit Card Loads
For online debit load, only use of bank-issued cards is allowed. The use of pre-paid debit cards (Netspend, Paypower, Univision, Paypal*, etc.) and VGC/MGC/AGCs is not allowed. While initial transactions may work, your account will eventually be flagged.


Switching to Serve or Serve/Softcard
Helpful instruction post, latest. Thanks raeneye.

Also see this thread: Switching from Serve to BlueBird - 31 day wait???

Switching to Serve/Softcard
  1. Call up Bluebird or Serve and close account. Make sure your account is at $0.00 before calling. Just close it, don't ask for a temp Serve or anything. CSR will say account is now closed and you have 30 days to change your mind should you decide to re-open it.
  2. Download the Softcard mobile app from Apple App Store or Google Play Store. If you're an iPhone user you have to buy the NFC CashWrap case from your carrier store.
  3. Launch Softcard Mobile App and create Softcard account. You'll be asked if you want to open a Serve account; Yes you do. Start the registration through Softcard mobile app for a Serve account, once you are finished you will be told you will receive an Email from Amex with your account approval. I waited a few hours and called Serve customer service like the wiki says and completed the registration.
  4. Once I got off the phone with Serve I received an email from Serve where I verified my account and email; at this point Amex Serve is open.
  5. Launch Softcard Mobile app again click add new
  6. Activate card with Softcard and select Amex Serve. Follow the instructions & you're good to add. Once this is complete a Serve Card will populate in Softcard. Must activate physical card to get full load limits. Check account status and it automatically credits to your serve account based on who you signed up with. (Verizon - $25, T-Mobile - $50, AT&T - $30 (For AT&T: Get $15 w/activation. Earn additional $15 w/account replenishment))

Switching from BB to Serve
  1. Login to BB account, bring account balance to Zero, (By Bill Pay, Send money, etc..)
  2. Call BB, tell them that you want to open a serve account and close your current BB account. after they check everything they will say something like: "Your account will be permanently closed after 31 days, you can reopen it within 31 day if you change your mind, and you can apply for your new Serve account now, just make sure use the exact same register info from BB."
  3. at this point BB is closed. next morning, goto CVS and get a temporary Serve card (only with cash), load $500, ($2.95 waived, Yeah!!)
  4. get back home, register temporary Serve online, First error: "phone number already registered, please try a different number" could be the my BB's ghost account still showing up on their system, could be my info is not match my BB's registration? i'm not really sure at this point. What I did is keep the same number but change from Cell phone to home phone. and registration went through
  5. after the register and login, second error: "We're still processing your application. Please check your email for an update"
  6. I have see people on the thread reported waiting for weeks for the same message, So, I pickup the phone and called them, ask them to speed up the process.
  7. CSR, told me that my account went to "account security protection department" transfer me to them.
  8. at account security protection department, they told me need to call back on my phone number which I registered to verify.
  9. after the call back of verification, CSR told me that my new Serve account is active now, email address verification will be send with in 5 minutes, permanent card will be received within 7-10 days.
  10. CSR also told me the I can load and spend on the temporary card, but not bill pay.

The number to call to approve your registration after closing Bluebird: Serve Account security 1-800-555-4318



Loading with debit card at Walmart register
Loads at register over $500 will sometimes trigger ID requirement. There is a limit of four swipes per transaction; this means your card plus three payments.

Training a WM cashier:
  • If the WM cashier doesn't know how to load the card, advise them to enter "70" then press "action code".
  • If you are using a temp card that doesn't have your name on it, you can swipe the card from your side of the terminal. The WM rep never has to touch any of your cards. The screen will say "enter account." That is your prompt to slide the card.
  • The terminal will ask the WM employee if you are loading in multiples of $2000. Advise them to enter "no."
  • Avoid saying gift card. Always refer to your card as a debit card.

Error Messages:
DEBIT NOT AVAILABLE
Received when I used a card I thought I had activated but hadn't.

DEBIT NOT APPROVED
Received when the card's monthly load limit had been reached.

TENDER NOT ALLOWED
Card was incorrectly read, or wrong PIN entered.

HOST TIMEOUT
Connection problems. The GC may be drained but the transaction should reverse itself, and funds will become available again. Try again later.


Using Serve
For online bill pay
  • You can pay the credit card that you used to buy VRs/GCs
  • Error 1302 means that you have 1 pending payment the same amount as the one you just submitted. For example, 1000 bill pay to sapphire preferred from Friday and then on Saturday you submit another bill pay for 1000 to sapphire preferred, you will get this error.
  • Tip: if using online bill pay to the same place multiple times, vary your amounts by $0.01 to make it easier to track since your confirmation number does not match the tracking number on your credit card statement



For bank transfers
Under Settings --> Funding & Transfers --> Bank & Cards --> U.S. Bank Account, you can add your bank info and transfer funds from your Serve card directly to your bank. The bank account must be verified, either by the standard "deposit 2 small sums into your account, such as $0.23 & $0.42" method, or doing an "instant verification" by actually logging into your bank account while still logged into Serve.
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Old Sep 7, 2014, 6:53 am
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Originally Posted by pwned
It's new. But doesn't matter as long as you have your CA set to $0.
Yep. Except for Barclay. They won't set to zero.
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Old Sep 7, 2014, 8:00 am
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Originally Posted by ZzzzX
Yep. Except for Barclay. They won't set to zero.
But that doesn't matter right because Barclay doesn't treat Serve loads as a CA yes?
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Old Sep 7, 2014, 12:21 pm
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Originally Posted by compddd
But that doesn't matter right because Barclay doesn't treat Serve loads as a CA yes?
Has posted as purchase for me since I started using it several months ago.
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Old Sep 7, 2014, 7:13 pm
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Originally Posted by Happy
If OV you mean OneVanilla, then obviously you have A Lot to read because you not just act dumb... you are literally clueless.

Please read the Wiki on all related threads, especially this one:

http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/manuf...ing-ov-wm.html

Furthermore, it does not matter whether you are loading ISIS Serve, regular Serve, BB, or buying MO, or Bill Pay, the process of payment is IDENTICAL.

The rejection of OV has nothing to do with what you are loading, Serve or BB, does not matter an iota.

Information are scattered around on all related threads, BB, Serve, MO, Bill Pay, etc etc because they are all the functions people perform at WMT. You have a lot of reading to do, start with the Wiki of each thread. The answers to your questions and more are all there.

Finally, get other GCs than Vanilla varieties to make your learning curve less steep.
Happy Thanks!. Let me see. So I am to know that a forum named MO purchasing using OV holds the answer to my question? I never do MO or never did. I have been doing the BB vanilla reload and then moved to OV. Never followed the thread until my next AOR comes. It is insane that Flyertalk users think that everyone has time to invest to read multiple threads.

It is good that most here think since they have time they are geniuses and others are fool. Happy I have respect for you for all the information you provide. I have read your posts in Alaskan thread it in fact helped me during the application process but please drop the initial put down. Thanks!
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Old Sep 7, 2014, 7:18 pm
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Originally Posted by Lumpylump76
I am convinced this guy is a troll. Look at his post history and see for yourself.
I am troll and what are you a fool? Go read your own posts? You keep analyzing people behavior here without adding anything? At least my so called stupid questions might help another newbie. How is your post going to help?
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Old Sep 7, 2014, 7:57 pm
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Originally Posted by woow14610
I am troll and what are you a fool? Go read your own posts? You keep analyzing people behavior here without adding anything? At least my so called stupid questions might help another newbie. How is your post going to help?
So sad...
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Old Sep 8, 2014, 12:24 am
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Hi all I read through the posts and wonder if you guys have so more insight about getting a Isis/serve account.

I have an iphone 5s w AT&T using the Incipio ISIS wallet case. I don't even have a isis/serve account now just a regular serve account but linked to isis. Only reason for that is for some reason I have both bluebird and serve and I don't want to cancel my serve account and reapply for the isis/serve one because they might find out I have a bluebird account and force me to close one of them. I am now trying to get a isis/serve account for my girlfriend but not too sure how I should proceed, by the way she is on a carrier that doesn't support isis. Below are some findings and possible solutions I can think of.

According to the thread wiki, the SD card in the Isis phone case for iphone is account specific. If this is the case, can I register another account using a new case? Scenario 1 will prove the hypothesis.

According to babehwa on post# 2118 he mentioned that he was able to get a second account using a different sim but the same phone. This makes me wonder if I can use a different sim but with the same case. Scenario 2 and 3 will give us some answers

Scenario 4 will be my last resort, a new case is easy but is seems to be hard to get a new sim, anyone knows if the pre-paid plan sim will work?

Case A - Old Case
Case B - New Case
Sim A - Old Sim
Sim A2 - New Sim same number
Sim B -New Sim different number

Scenario 1: Case B + Sim A
Scenario 2: Case A + Sim A2
Scenario 3: Case A + Sim B
Scenario 4: Case B + Sim B

What do you guys think? Thanks!
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Old Sep 8, 2014, 6:08 am
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Originally Posted by compddd
But that doesn't matter right because Barclay doesn't treat Serve loads as a CA yes?
Yes. But it does mean that after the first load it's a good idea to verify the Barclay online.
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Old Sep 8, 2014, 1:30 pm
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I already have Isis sim installed on my tmobile phone line and been using it for few months now. I have another tmobile family line that my sister uses and a different number. Can I sign up for Isis serve for my sister's line but on MY phone with a brand new Isis ready sim? I don't have her phone with me at this time and I have her full permission. I handle her Bluebird card which I will convert to Isis Serve.
Will it delete my saved contacts? thanks
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Old Sep 8, 2014, 3:15 pm
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Originally Posted by milemission
Today add money with CC online have this new warning:"Cash advance fees for credit card loads may apply; please check with your credit card issuer for details." Anyone saw that? Were it there before?
Originally Posted by pwned
It's new. But doesn't matter as long as you have your CA set to $0.
It's not new. While it may be new to that screen, it's definitely has been in the T&C for a while.
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Old Sep 8, 2014, 3:18 pm
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Originally Posted by compddd
But that doesn't matter right because Barclay doesn't treat Serve loads as a CA yes?
There is an entire list of cards in the wiki that have been verified as not charging cash advances. You have no worries with any of these cards but yes it's always a good idea to lower your CA amount just in case.
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Old Sep 8, 2014, 3:19 pm
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Today the manager at FD told me multiple loads within 48hr wouldn't work. But he said we would see what happens. 500 later and everything worked. Interesting that the wiki now says 500 per store, thats new. Suppose Im the only one loading in my area.
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Old Sep 8, 2014, 3:45 pm
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Originally Posted by fishll
Today the manager at FD told me multiple loads within 48hr wouldn't work. But he said we would see what happens. 500 later and everything worked. Interesting that the wiki now says 500 per store, thats new. Suppose Im the only one loading in my area.
It's always been $500 per store for some length of time less than 24 hours and more than a few hours. Someone on here a while back reported loading in the same store early in the morning and again late in the evening.

I thought I was the only one doing loads at FDs in my area until it was declined at one store and manager told me someone had already come in earlier and done a large load. Luckily I knew I had to wait and swipe again to reload the funds back to the OV. The employees, including the manager, did not know that.
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Old Sep 8, 2014, 4:13 pm
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Originally Posted by Blueskyheaven
I already have Isis sim installed on my tmobile phone line and been using it for few months now. I have another tmobile family line that my sister uses and a different number. Can I sign up for Isis serve for my sister's line but on MY phone with a brand new Isis ready sim? I don't have her phone with me at this time and I have her full permission. I handle her Bluebird card which I will convert to Isis Serve.
I can tell you what worked for me. I got a t mo galaxy light with isis SIM. I signed up for the serve a/c myself. Then a couple of days later, I reset the phone to factory settings and inserted another ISIS enabled sim card and signed up my wife. I got the $50 bonus on both accounts and $1500/mo CC load limits.

I bought this phone for $100 so it worked out great. I also got the $50 direct deposit bonuses again.

I don't care about making real purchases with ISIS app so I don't know much about that.
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Old Sep 8, 2014, 4:49 pm
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Serve finally solved an issue with adding Barclays Priceline card, and now it works. They said there were some technical issues on Serve's side.
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