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It's a literacy test that's easy to pass.

This is the Serve thread. Post questions or information concerning other topics in the appropriate threads elsewhere in this forum.

For additional information on using prepaid debit cards, see PIN available now for Visa/MC prepaid debit cards.

Mentions of Softcard (formerly ISIS) are purely incidental to setting up and using Serve/Softcard. Softcard does not hold money, and you cannot load to it.


You cannot make an ACH pull from Serve. The direct deposit account and routing numbers are for deposits only.

https://www.serve.com/#/add-cash

If your card doesn't say "debit" on the front, it isn't a debit card.


Loads at 7-11 and CVS are cash only. Debit cards are NOT allowed.

Loads at Walmart have been confirmed with debit cards. Self checkout does not work for loading Serve. Many Walmart stores are enforcing a rule against the use of prepaid debit cards when loading, even though the register and the MCE do not enforce. Do not make your prepaid debit cards visible. Show them a bank debit card if asked, then discreetly use your prepaid card when asked to swipe. Otherwise, you may be asked by management to never visit the MC (Walmart Money Center) again to load.

Debit loading at Family Dollar appears to be limited to $500 per day per store total (not per person or per account). Whoever gets there first gets the load for the day. Troubleshooting loading problems at FD


Normal Serve
  • Serve loading via VR/MP or WM/FD load: $2,500/day and $5,000 total per calendar month
  • Online Debit Card Load - $200/day and $1,000/month (NOT a gift card with a PIN that some people call a "Debit card")
  • Online Credit Card Load - $200/day and $1,000/month
  • Checking/Savings Account - $2,000/month
  • Checks - $2,000/day and $10,000/month
  • ATM Withdrawals - $750/day and $2,000/month

You can combine the three methods above and load a total of $7k/month to a single Serve account for miles/points earning purposes, but beware that you're also subject to a $10,000/month add money limit which also includes check deposits, ACH transfers, and Serve transfers.

Serve/Softcard Check if your phone/network is compatible
  • Serve loading via VR/MP or WM/FD load: $2,500/day and $5,000 total per calendar month
  • Online Debit Card Load - $500/day and $1,500/month (NOT a gift card with a PIN that some people call a "Debit card")
  • Online Credit Card Load - $500/day and $1,500/month
  • Checking/Savings Account - $2,000/month
  • Checks - $2,000/day and $10,000/month
  • ATM Withdrawals - $750/day and $2,000/month

You can combine the three methods above and load a total of $8k/month to a single Serve account for miles/points earning purposes, but beware that you're also subject to a $10,000/month add money limit which also includes check deposits, ACH transfers, and Serve transfers.

The SD card in the iPhone case used for Softcard is account specific. Once an account has been registered to a card, it cannot be used for another.

Temp Serve
You can only load a maximum of $500/day, $1000/month on a temporary card. Once you get your permanent card, then you can load more. The initial $500 when you purchase the temp card doesn't count against the $5,000/month load limit.


Online Credit Card Loads
Only one card can be linked at a time.

As of 10/09/14, coding of credit card loads changed. In general, Mastercard and American Express cards post as before; see below for information on point earning. Visa cards transact as a cash advance and, therefore, require available CA limit; although most cards post as a purchase.

The Chase Ink Bold is a charge card and has no cash advance ability.

Treated as purchase, earns cashback/points/miles:
  • Bank of America (FIA) (MasterCard, American Express)
  • Barclaycard (Mastercard, Visa)
  • Capital One (Mastercard, Visa)
  • Chase (MasterCard, Visa)
  • Citi (MasterCard, American Express)
  • Discover

Treated as purchase, but doesn't earn points/miles:
  • American Express (May count toward minimum spend)

Posts as a cash advance:
For online CC/DC loads, the name on the Serve account is supposed to match the name of the primary or joint cardholder. So using someone else's CC/DB card to load a Serve account is not allowed.

Several people have reported no problems with loading with an AU card in the Serve account holder's name. Increase your chances by making sure the AUs social security number is on file with the Credit Card. YMMV.

When adding a new card you will usually need to call Serve Account security (1-800-555-4318) for verification of the new card on the second load try. This verification usually requires uploading of a photo of your ID and the credit card. You may pre-emptively avoid the error by going to the above website, logging in, and uploading a scan of a photo ID and the card you are trying to add. You may call back to expedite approval.


Online Debit Card Loads
For online debit load, only use of bank-issued cards is allowed. The use of pre-paid debit cards (Netspend, Paypower, Univision, Paypal*, etc.) and VGC/MGC/AGCs is not allowed. While initial transactions may work, your account will eventually be flagged.


Switching to Serve or Serve/Softcard
Helpful instruction post, latest. Thanks raeneye.

Also see this thread: Switching from Serve to BlueBird - 31 day wait???

Switching to Serve/Softcard
  1. Call up Bluebird or Serve and close account. Make sure your account is at $0.00 before calling. Just close it, don't ask for a temp Serve or anything. CSR will say account is now closed and you have 30 days to change your mind should you decide to re-open it.
  2. Download the Softcard mobile app from Apple App Store or Google Play Store. If you're an iPhone user you have to buy the NFC CashWrap case from your carrier store.
  3. Launch Softcard Mobile App and create Softcard account. You'll be asked if you want to open a Serve account; Yes you do. Start the registration through Softcard mobile app for a Serve account, once you are finished you will be told you will receive an Email from Amex with your account approval. I waited a few hours and called Serve customer service like the wiki says and completed the registration.
  4. Once I got off the phone with Serve I received an email from Serve where I verified my account and email; at this point Amex Serve is open.
  5. Launch Softcard Mobile app again click add new
  6. Activate card with Softcard and select Amex Serve. Follow the instructions & you're good to add. Once this is complete a Serve Card will populate in Softcard. Must activate physical card to get full load limits. Check account status and it automatically credits to your serve account based on who you signed up with. (Verizon - $25, T-Mobile - $50, AT&T - $30 (For AT&T: Get $15 w/activation. Earn additional $15 w/account replenishment))

Switching from BB to Serve
  1. Login to BB account, bring account balance to Zero, (By Bill Pay, Send money, etc..)
  2. Call BB, tell them that you want to open a serve account and close your current BB account. after they check everything they will say something like: "Your account will be permanently closed after 31 days, you can reopen it within 31 day if you change your mind, and you can apply for your new Serve account now, just make sure use the exact same register info from BB."
  3. at this point BB is closed. next morning, goto CVS and get a temporary Serve card (only with cash), load $500, ($2.95 waived, Yeah!!)
  4. get back home, register temporary Serve online, First error: "phone number already registered, please try a different number" could be the my BB's ghost account still showing up on their system, could be my info is not match my BB's registration? i'm not really sure at this point. What I did is keep the same number but change from Cell phone to home phone. and registration went through
  5. after the register and login, second error: "We're still processing your application. Please check your email for an update"
  6. I have see people on the thread reported waiting for weeks for the same message, So, I pickup the phone and called them, ask them to speed up the process.
  7. CSR, told me that my account went to "account security protection department" transfer me to them.
  8. at account security protection department, they told me need to call back on my phone number which I registered to verify.
  9. after the call back of verification, CSR told me that my new Serve account is active now, email address verification will be send with in 5 minutes, permanent card will be received within 7-10 days.
  10. CSR also told me the I can load and spend on the temporary card, but not bill pay.

The number to call to approve your registration after closing Bluebird: Serve Account security 1-800-555-4318



Loading with debit card at Walmart register
Loads at register over $500 will sometimes trigger ID requirement. There is a limit of four swipes per transaction; this means your card plus three payments.

Training a WM cashier:
  • If the WM cashier doesn't know how to load the card, advise them to enter "70" then press "action code".
  • If you are using a temp card that doesn't have your name on it, you can swipe the card from your side of the terminal. The WM rep never has to touch any of your cards. The screen will say "enter account." That is your prompt to slide the card.
  • The terminal will ask the WM employee if you are loading in multiples of $2000. Advise them to enter "no."
  • Avoid saying gift card. Always refer to your card as a debit card.

Error Messages:
DEBIT NOT AVAILABLE
Received when I used a card I thought I had activated but hadn't.

DEBIT NOT APPROVED
Received when the card's monthly load limit had been reached.

TENDER NOT ALLOWED
Card was incorrectly read, or wrong PIN entered.

HOST TIMEOUT
Connection problems. The GC may be drained but the transaction should reverse itself, and funds will become available again. Try again later.


Using Serve
For online bill pay
  • You can pay the credit card that you used to buy VRs/GCs
  • Error 1302 means that you have 1 pending payment the same amount as the one you just submitted. For example, 1000 bill pay to sapphire preferred from Friday and then on Saturday you submit another bill pay for 1000 to sapphire preferred, you will get this error.
  • Tip: if using online bill pay to the same place multiple times, vary your amounts by $0.01 to make it easier to track since your confirmation number does not match the tracking number on your credit card statement



For bank transfers
Under Settings --> Funding & Transfers --> Bank & Cards --> U.S. Bank Account, you can add your bank info and transfer funds from your Serve card directly to your bank. The bank account must be verified, either by the standard "deposit 2 small sums into your account, such as $0.23 & $0.42" method, or doing an "instant verification" by actually logging into your bank account while still logged into Serve.
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Old Oct 20, 2012, 8:03 am
  #526  
 
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Originally Posted by WOXOF
Originally Posted by Dynastar
I wonder how Serve will feel about funelling Debit card funds to a BlueBird account for BillPay use? I guess we're going to find out...
You cannot have a current serve account and open a BB account with the same name/SSN
That's why you get married. (Among other reasons.)

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Old Oct 20, 2012, 9:16 am
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[QUOTE=Dynastar;19531520]
Originally Posted by WOXOF

That's why you get married. (Among other reasons.)
Looks like mom will have another account she knows nothing about!
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Old Oct 20, 2012, 9:46 pm
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How does this thing work?

Sorry if I'm confused, but I just logged into my old account. I haven't been on in over a year.

1) I noticed all my former credit card sources are listed under debit
IE: Chase Mileage plus card

2) If I spend money on the serve card, it just auto-charged my CC each day for transactions? strange. No load fee. I put $125 in gas today and $20 in food and it charged $145 to my chase card.

3) I don't really want to try loading the account, for fear of how I'd extract the funds? Add a bank account?

4) I have the old white serve card which has no name on it.

5) I did sign up for a BB a few days ago with no issues.

I guess I miss the whole point of this whole gig, but I'm assuming I have to partner up with someone to send the funds to?



Currently you can...
Send & Receive up to $2000 / Mo

Receive up to $1000 per day, up to $2000 / Mo
Send up to $1000 per day, up to $2000 Max
Make purchases with your Serve card
Withdraw funds via transfer to your bank account, participating ATMs or request a check
Create subaccounts


Add a bank or card and you may...
Receive up to $2500 / Mo

Receive up to $1000 per day, up to $2500 / Mo
Send up to $1000 per day, up to $2500 Max
Make purchases with your Serve card
Withdraw funds via transfer to your bank account, participating ATMs or request a check
Create subaccounts
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Old Oct 21, 2012, 10:55 pm
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Wink

Anyone could help understand: How to request money to be sent to Paypal account? I do not see this option in Serve website. Thanks.

Originally Posted by docr775
I use a SunTrust debit card to fund the Serve account. I request money to be sent to my paypal account - different email address. PayPal sends money to SunTrust. SunTrust funds Serve account. Result - Delta Sky Pesos. Lots of them.
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Old Oct 21, 2012, 11:44 pm
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Same here regarding paypal. Do you send to another of your email addresses and then that is an option? It is not really on their site...
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Old Oct 22, 2012, 1:00 pm
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Get $10 by spending $20

The $10 credit after spending $20 posts quickly. Just paid $20 to my water company and get $10 the following day. I will pay another utility bill using my husband's account. Good spending before I do another ACH to my account
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Old Oct 23, 2012, 12:06 am
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Got my $1000 gift card from giftcardmall.com. Took approximately 2 weeks after the order was placed. Was able to directly link card as debit card and load it to serve. Went through with no problem
FYI the card is issued by Metabank
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Old Oct 23, 2012, 7:44 am
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So, I have a pretty newbie question...

I've had a dormant Serve account for about a year, but just recently bought a GC from GCmall and loaded it as a debit card. When I tried to use it to send money to somebody, I got an error saying that the amount was over the $200/day load limit. My account is at the $2500 level and I understood that actually loading money into my Serve account was limited at $200/day from the debit card, but I thought that when sending money to somebody, it would allow up to $1,000/day from that GC that is seen as a debit?

What am I missing? Did I try to send it the wrong way or something? Or is that what the rules are for everybody? It just seems that people are loading the GC and then draining them all at once, not over 5 days of $200 transactions each day.

Thanks and feel free to PM me if you'd prefer!
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Old Oct 23, 2012, 7:45 am
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Originally Posted by SkinsFan0521
So, I have a pretty newbie question...

I've had a dormant Serve account for about a year, but just recently bought a GC from GCmall and loaded it as a debit card. When I tried to use it to send money to somebody, I got an error saying that the amount was over the $200/day load limit. My account is at the $2500 level and I understood that actually loading money into my Serve account was limited at $200/day from the debit card, but I thought that when sending money to somebody, it would allow up to $1,000/day from that GC that is seen as a debit?

What am I missing? Did I try to send it the wrong way or something? Or is that what the rules are for everybody? It just seems that people are loading the GC and then draining them all at once, not over 5 days of $200 transactions each day.

Thanks and feel free to PM me if you'd prefer!
You have to load before you can send - $200/day
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Old Oct 23, 2012, 8:48 pm
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All this gift card non-sense -- I guess am I the only lucky one who has all their ch@se credit cards linked to this as debit cards? I can't explain why, but that seems to be the case here.

However it seems the only way to participate in this is send it to someone else. I would think direct constant withdrawal would result in fairly quick shut down.

I can't see this hardly being worth the hassle. AP is the same amount with no hoops. I guess if you need to meet minimum spend... or a threshold bonus.
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Old Oct 23, 2012, 8:54 pm
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Originally Posted by johndoe123
All this gift card non-sense -- I guess am I the only lucky one who has all their ch@se credit cards linked to this as debit cards? I can't explain why, but that seems to be the case here.

However it seems the only way to participate in this is send it to someone else. I would think direct constant withdrawal would result in fairly quick shut down.

I can't see this hardly being worth the hassle. AP is the same amount with no hoops. I guess if you need to meet minimum spend...
This isn't really that much more hassle than AP. And if you can do AP, why not also do this with the same counterpart(s)? It doubles your spend (or more).

Gift cards have the potential to get you bonus points, so they are often better than using CCs directly.
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Old Oct 23, 2012, 9:40 pm
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Originally Posted by sk8uno
This isn't really that much more hassle than AP. And if you can do AP, why not also do this with the same counterpart(s)? It doubles your spend (or more).

Gift cards have the potential to get you bonus points, so they are often better than using CCs directly.
Yeah I guess I'll have to look more. I seldom see them available for more than 2x points/each, although I've seen more rewarding cash discount card opportunities from time to time, except for the obvious one for which there's better prepaid products.

Otherwise, it's a tough sell given the fee to purchase the card vs. hitting the CC directly.

The lazy way is probably direct ATM withdrawal but I suppose that's really asking for it.

Any cardinal activity or has it been pretty safe?
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Old Oct 23, 2012, 9:46 pm
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Originally Posted by johndoe123
Yeah I guess I'll have to look more. I seldom see them available for more than 2x points/each, although I've seen more rewarding cash discount card opportunities from time to time, except for the obvious one for which there's better prepaid products.

Otherwise, it's a tough sell given the fee to purchase the card vs. hitting the CC directly.

The lazy way is probably direct ATM withdrawal but I suppose that's really asking for it.

Any cardinal activity or has it been pretty safe?
Direct bank transfer withdrawal will get you shut down. Direct ATM withdrawal...not sure but I wouldn't risk it.
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Old Oct 23, 2012, 10:10 pm
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Originally Posted by johndoe123
Yeah I guess I'll have to look more. I seldom see them available for more than 2x points/each, although I've seen more rewarding cash discount card opportunities from time to time, except for the obvious one for which there's better prepaid products.

Otherwise, it's a tough sell given the fee to purchase the card vs. hitting the CC directly.

The lazy way is probably direct ATM withdrawal but I suppose that's really asking for it.

Any cardinal activity or has it been pretty safe?
I buy lots of GCs from safeway everytime they have the $10 off visa promo. I do about 3 normal spend before triggering ach to my bank account. I only have it for 3 months so we'll see.
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Old Oct 24, 2012, 12:46 am
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does anyone know if you are allowed to fund your account with a credit card (100+100+50) then requesting bank withdrawal immediately after will cause any problems such as closing down account?
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