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This is the Serve thread. Post questions or information concerning other topics in the appropriate threads elsewhere in this forum.

For additional information on using prepaid debit cards, see PIN available now for Visa/MC prepaid debit cards.

Mentions of Softcard (formerly ISIS) are purely incidental to setting up and using Serve/Softcard. Softcard does not hold money, and you cannot load to it.


You cannot make an ACH pull from Serve. The direct deposit account and routing numbers are for deposits only.

https://www.serve.com/#/add-cash

If your card doesn't say "debit" on the front, it isn't a debit card.


Loads at 7-11 and CVS are cash only. Debit cards are NOT allowed.

Loads at Walmart have been confirmed with debit cards. Self checkout does not work for loading Serve. Many Walmart stores are enforcing a rule against the use of prepaid debit cards when loading, even though the register and the MCE do not enforce. Do not make your prepaid debit cards visible. Show them a bank debit card if asked, then discreetly use your prepaid card when asked to swipe. Otherwise, you may be asked by management to never visit the MC (Walmart Money Center) again to load.

Debit loading at Family Dollar appears to be limited to $500 per day per store total (not per person or per account). Whoever gets there first gets the load for the day. Troubleshooting loading problems at FD


Normal Serve
  • Serve loading via VR/MP or WM/FD load: $2,500/day and $5,000 total per calendar month
  • Online Debit Card Load - $200/day and $1,000/month (NOT a gift card with a PIN that some people call a "Debit card")
  • Online Credit Card Load - $200/day and $1,000/month
  • Checking/Savings Account - $2,000/month
  • Checks - $2,000/day and $10,000/month
  • ATM Withdrawals - $750/day and $2,000/month

You can combine the three methods above and load a total of $7k/month to a single Serve account for miles/points earning purposes, but beware that you're also subject to a $10,000/month add money limit which also includes check deposits, ACH transfers, and Serve transfers.

Serve/Softcard Check if your phone/network is compatible
  • Serve loading via VR/MP or WM/FD load: $2,500/day and $5,000 total per calendar month
  • Online Debit Card Load - $500/day and $1,500/month (NOT a gift card with a PIN that some people call a "Debit card")
  • Online Credit Card Load - $500/day and $1,500/month
  • Checking/Savings Account - $2,000/month
  • Checks - $2,000/day and $10,000/month
  • ATM Withdrawals - $750/day and $2,000/month

You can combine the three methods above and load a total of $8k/month to a single Serve account for miles/points earning purposes, but beware that you're also subject to a $10,000/month add money limit which also includes check deposits, ACH transfers, and Serve transfers.

The SD card in the iPhone case used for Softcard is account specific. Once an account has been registered to a card, it cannot be used for another.

Temp Serve
You can only load a maximum of $500/day, $1000/month on a temporary card. Once you get your permanent card, then you can load more. The initial $500 when you purchase the temp card doesn't count against the $5,000/month load limit.


Online Credit Card Loads
Only one card can be linked at a time.

As of 10/09/14, coding of credit card loads changed. In general, Mastercard and American Express cards post as before; see below for information on point earning. Visa cards transact as a cash advance and, therefore, require available CA limit; although most cards post as a purchase.

The Chase Ink Bold is a charge card and has no cash advance ability.

Treated as purchase, earns cashback/points/miles:
  • Bank of America (FIA) (MasterCard, American Express)
  • Barclaycard (Mastercard, Visa)
  • Capital One (Mastercard, Visa)
  • Chase (MasterCard, Visa)
  • Citi (MasterCard, American Express)
  • Discover

Treated as purchase, but doesn't earn points/miles:
  • American Express (May count toward minimum spend)

Posts as a cash advance:
For online CC/DC loads, the name on the Serve account is supposed to match the name of the primary or joint cardholder. So using someone else's CC/DB card to load a Serve account is not allowed.

Several people have reported no problems with loading with an AU card in the Serve account holder's name. Increase your chances by making sure the AUs social security number is on file with the Credit Card. YMMV.

When adding a new card you will usually need to call Serve Account security (1-800-555-4318) for verification of the new card on the second load try. This verification usually requires uploading of a photo of your ID and the credit card. You may pre-emptively avoid the error by going to the above website, logging in, and uploading a scan of a photo ID and the card you are trying to add. You may call back to expedite approval.


Online Debit Card Loads
For online debit load, only use of bank-issued cards is allowed. The use of pre-paid debit cards (Netspend, Paypower, Univision, Paypal*, etc.) and VGC/MGC/AGCs is not allowed. While initial transactions may work, your account will eventually be flagged.


Switching to Serve or Serve/Softcard
Helpful instruction post, latest. Thanks raeneye.

Also see this thread: Switching from Serve to BlueBird - 31 day wait???

Switching to Serve/Softcard
  1. Call up Bluebird or Serve and close account. Make sure your account is at $0.00 before calling. Just close it, don't ask for a temp Serve or anything. CSR will say account is now closed and you have 30 days to change your mind should you decide to re-open it.
  2. Download the Softcard mobile app from Apple App Store or Google Play Store. If you're an iPhone user you have to buy the NFC CashWrap case from your carrier store.
  3. Launch Softcard Mobile App and create Softcard account. You'll be asked if you want to open a Serve account; Yes you do. Start the registration through Softcard mobile app for a Serve account, once you are finished you will be told you will receive an Email from Amex with your account approval. I waited a few hours and called Serve customer service like the wiki says and completed the registration.
  4. Once I got off the phone with Serve I received an email from Serve where I verified my account and email; at this point Amex Serve is open.
  5. Launch Softcard Mobile app again click add new
  6. Activate card with Softcard and select Amex Serve. Follow the instructions & you're good to add. Once this is complete a Serve Card will populate in Softcard. Must activate physical card to get full load limits. Check account status and it automatically credits to your serve account based on who you signed up with. (Verizon - $25, T-Mobile - $50, AT&T - $30 (For AT&T: Get $15 w/activation. Earn additional $15 w/account replenishment))

Switching from BB to Serve
  1. Login to BB account, bring account balance to Zero, (By Bill Pay, Send money, etc..)
  2. Call BB, tell them that you want to open a serve account and close your current BB account. after they check everything they will say something like: "Your account will be permanently closed after 31 days, you can reopen it within 31 day if you change your mind, and you can apply for your new Serve account now, just make sure use the exact same register info from BB."
  3. at this point BB is closed. next morning, goto CVS and get a temporary Serve card (only with cash), load $500, ($2.95 waived, Yeah!!)
  4. get back home, register temporary Serve online, First error: "phone number already registered, please try a different number" could be the my BB's ghost account still showing up on their system, could be my info is not match my BB's registration? i'm not really sure at this point. What I did is keep the same number but change from Cell phone to home phone. and registration went through
  5. after the register and login, second error: "We're still processing your application. Please check your email for an update"
  6. I have see people on the thread reported waiting for weeks for the same message, So, I pickup the phone and called them, ask them to speed up the process.
  7. CSR, told me that my account went to "account security protection department" transfer me to them.
  8. at account security protection department, they told me need to call back on my phone number which I registered to verify.
  9. after the call back of verification, CSR told me that my new Serve account is active now, email address verification will be send with in 5 minutes, permanent card will be received within 7-10 days.
  10. CSR also told me the I can load and spend on the temporary card, but not bill pay.

The number to call to approve your registration after closing Bluebird: Serve Account security 1-800-555-4318



Loading with debit card at Walmart register
Loads at register over $500 will sometimes trigger ID requirement. There is a limit of four swipes per transaction; this means your card plus three payments.

Training a WM cashier:
  • If the WM cashier doesn't know how to load the card, advise them to enter "70" then press "action code".
  • If you are using a temp card that doesn't have your name on it, you can swipe the card from your side of the terminal. The WM rep never has to touch any of your cards. The screen will say "enter account." That is your prompt to slide the card.
  • The terminal will ask the WM employee if you are loading in multiples of $2000. Advise them to enter "no."
  • Avoid saying gift card. Always refer to your card as a debit card.

Error Messages:
DEBIT NOT AVAILABLE
Received when I used a card I thought I had activated but hadn't.

DEBIT NOT APPROVED
Received when the card's monthly load limit had been reached.

TENDER NOT ALLOWED
Card was incorrectly read, or wrong PIN entered.

HOST TIMEOUT
Connection problems. The GC may be drained but the transaction should reverse itself, and funds will become available again. Try again later.


Using Serve
For online bill pay
  • You can pay the credit card that you used to buy VRs/GCs
  • Error 1302 means that you have 1 pending payment the same amount as the one you just submitted. For example, 1000 bill pay to sapphire preferred from Friday and then on Saturday you submit another bill pay for 1000 to sapphire preferred, you will get this error.
  • Tip: if using online bill pay to the same place multiple times, vary your amounts by $0.01 to make it easier to track since your confirmation number does not match the tracking number on your credit card statement



For bank transfers
Under Settings --> Funding & Transfers --> Bank & Cards --> U.S. Bank Account, you can add your bank info and transfer funds from your Serve card directly to your bank. The bank account must be verified, either by the standard "deposit 2 small sums into your account, such as $0.23 & $0.42" method, or doing an "instant verification" by actually logging into your bank account while still logged into Serve.
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Old Jun 26, 2014, 12:01 pm
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done. didn't do it earlier because I wasn't sure if there is a protocol to it.

Originally Posted by f0xx
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Old Jun 26, 2014, 1:56 pm
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Perhaps I shouldn't have tried to load to a CC I had activated literally moments before, but I got the error
"You have the following errors.
We're sorry, something went wrong! Please try again."

This is not the error I got on my other account when I had to call in--am I right in assuming it's because I just activated the CC? (I know, is sudden/rash, but min spends! you know.)
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Old Jun 26, 2014, 7:36 pm
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cash out at WM?

Today when I was loading at a WM service desk, after the Serve card was swiped, there were three choices at the prompt. 1. Load 2. cash out 3. Balance inquiry. I have never seen this cash out option before. Is this new?
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Old Jun 26, 2014, 7:49 pm
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Originally Posted by Duffman
Quite a bit of misinformation in the wiki so not quite sure what to believe. For eg.
- wait 30-31 days before applying for serve
- daily limit of $200 for Serve ISIS
- I didn’t call Serve to approve my registration. All done via email.
- regarding the verification for CC on 2nd try, I was able to do more than 2 loads. Verifying the CC might still be answer but certainly not conclusive from the wiki.


The wiki is helpful but incorrect information doesn't help. Is there a protocol to updating these wiki's? ie. can anyone update? I was also pretty annoyed at the Buxx wiki that says US Bank applications are not accepted when there is a link or thr. It's one thing to not spell out detailed steps but posting misinformation doesn't sound right to me.
Not sure what you are talking about in terms of misinformation in the wiki. The bold text above is not what is stated in the wiki. It has always been listed as $500/day for Serve Isis. Only Normal Serve is $200/day.

I think you are basing your experiences as the truth when in reality it is not. Also you seem to be taking the wiki too literally. It is meant to be a guideline and that any deviations that you may have experience doesn't invalidate the wiki.

Regarding your Serve application approval, most people call into Serve to get their application approved. Just because you got your Serve application approved via email does not mean it is incorrect in the wiki.

Regarding the CC verification after 2 tries, that is not set in stone that it has to be 2 tries. For the majority of folks including myself, I had to verify my CC after 2 tries. For some it has taken longer but it really depends on how quickly you try to do your $200 or $500 CC loads. For me, I was trying to get my $1K of CC loads out of the way so I loaded $200/day for 2 consecutive days. Guess what on the 3rd day, I tried to load $200 and was notified to call Serve to release it.
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Old Jun 26, 2014, 8:10 pm
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Originally Posted by ericdabbs
Regarding the CC verification after 2 tries, that is not set in stone that it has to be 2 tries. For the majority of folks including myself, I had to verify my CC after 2 tries. For some it has taken longer but it really depends on how quickly you try to do your $200 or $500 CC loads. For me, I was trying to get my $1K of CC loads out of the way so I loaded $200/day for 2 consecutive days. Guess what on the 3rd day, I tried to load $200 and was notified to call Serve to release it.
I space out my CC loads to the beginning, middle and end of the month and I've never had to call in to verify the CC. Even on AU cards.
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Old Jun 26, 2014, 10:02 pm
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Originally Posted by geclub1
Today when I was loading at a WM service desk, after the Serve card was swiped, there were three choices at the prompt. 1. Load 2. cash out 3. Balance inquiry. I have never seen this cash out option before. Is this new?
Nope. I have seen that everytime I had loaded my Bluebird and Serve at Walmart.
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Old Jun 26, 2014, 10:06 pm
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Just another data point, but the few times I have changed cards, I was able to just wait a week after getting the card blocked and it works fine. They will try to do the security check themselves. That was key when I was overseas trying to keep my online MS up. It's kinda hard to call in to customer service that is based in EST when you are in the eastern hemisphere, not to mention the logistics of making the call without enormous charges ... Thank god for google voice (free voice calls to/from US numbers from iPad/laptop over wifi [the wife's iphone was a lil glitchy] and very cheap rates for international calls via google wallet)!

I did have to call in once for my wife's serve account. I was worried that they would find it suspicious that a deep male voice was attached to my wife's name. Lol.
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Old Jun 27, 2014, 7:46 am
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Has anyone used bill pay feature with Serve? Is it reliable? Can i issue payment to my wife while I still have temp card (I can't add bank account for withdrawals or use ATM until I get permanent card).
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Old Jun 27, 2014, 7:49 am
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Originally Posted by ericdabbs
Not sure what you are talking about in terms of misinformation in the wiki. The bold text above is not what is stated in the wiki. It has always been listed as $500/day for Serve Isis. Only Normal Serve is $200/day.

I think you are basing your experiences as the truth when in reality it is not. Also you seem to be taking the wiki too literally. It is meant to be a guideline and that any deviations that you may have experience doesn't invalidate the wiki.

Regarding your Serve application approval, most people call into Serve to get their application approved. Just because you got your Serve application approved via email does not mean it is incorrect in the wiki.

Regarding the CC verification after 2 tries, that is not set in stone that it has to be 2 tries. For the majority of folks including myself, I had to verify my CC after 2 tries. For some it has taken longer but it really depends on how quickly you try to do your $200 or $500 CC loads. For me, I was trying to get my $1K of CC loads out of the way so I loaded $200/day for 2 consecutive days. Guess what on the 3rd day, I tried to load $200 and was notified to call Serve to release it.
Signed up my SO today for Serve ISIS with a very similar experience. CC worked a few times, then didn't work and then worked again. Tried calling Serve to register the card but the systems were down.

The $500/$1500 limits were changed after my post, but that's a moot point now. I updated the incorrect info based on my experience. If I had taken the Wiki literally I would be waiting 31 days to even get my Serve card!

But on to more interesting things.. when you get the error to get your card verified, what does the error specifically say? Does it say "That transaction will cause you to exceed your daily limit."? I will find out more about the verification error once I get my card but the error I get seems to indicate that I am hitting against some limit, not that my card needs to be verified... yet. But I'll be able to report on it in a week or two.

Panicked a bit with the news of the Citi AA being dead so get another 3 cards to go along with the 3 Exec's I am working on right now. That's 40k+ spending in a month and half or so in NYC.. not fun :/. Every little bit help, will need the 1.5k Serve loads too!

Thanks,
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Old Jun 27, 2014, 7:52 am
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My Bluebird was super reliable. I managed 20+ cards w/o issues. Serve is a very similar platform so I don't expect any issues.

Originally Posted by DINYC
Has anyone used bill pay feature with Serve? Is it reliable? Can i issue payment to my wife while I still have temp card (I can't add bank account for withdrawals or use ATM until I get permanent card).
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Old Jun 27, 2014, 8:05 am
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Thanks, this is good to know. So if you pay bill to your friend or a family member, Amex would actually mail them physical check in the mail for free? Seems like this would require substantial back office expenses - not sure how Amex will make money in the end...
Originally Posted by Duffman
My Bluebird was super reliable. I managed 20+ cards w/o issues. Serve is a very similar platform so I don't expect any issues.
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Old Jun 27, 2014, 8:58 am
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Originally Posted by AveApostle
Perhaps I shouldn't have tried to load to a CC I had activated literally moments before, but I got the error
"You have the following errors.
We're sorry, something went wrong! Please try again."

This is not the error I got on my other account when I had to call in--am I right in assuming it's because I just activated the CC? (I know, is sudden/rash, but min spends! you know.)
I got the same thing last night around 12 am cst too !! Called in customer service checked up on my account made sure it was clear with my serve account...put me on hold and came back tell me its part of their maintenance and it should be back within an hour....Tried this morning still same thing.

anybody else?
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Old Jun 27, 2014, 9:38 am
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Just a heads up. It looks like the Isis case is back in stock at Verizon.com.
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Old Jun 27, 2014, 9:58 am
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Originally Posted by Duffman
Signed up my SO today for Serve ISIS with a very similar experience. CC worked a few times, then didn't work and then worked again. Tried calling Serve to register the card but the systems were down.

The $500/$1500 limits were changed after my post, but that's a moot point now. I updated the incorrect info based on my experience. If I had taken the Wiki literally I would be waiting 31 days to even get my Serve card!

But on to more interesting things.. when you get the error to get your card verified, what does the error specifically say? Does it say "That transaction will cause you to exceed your daily limit."? I will find out more about the verification error once I get my card but the error I get seems to indicate that I am hitting against some limit, not that my card needs to be verified... yet. But I'll be able to report on it in a week or two.

Panicked a bit with the news of the Citi AA being dead so get another 3 cards to go along with the 3 Exec's I am working on right now. That's 40k+ spending in a month and half or so in NYC.. not fun :/. Every little bit help, will need the 1.5k Serve loads too!

Thanks,
Just a tip...next time try reading the thread. Information about the recent change to no longer having to wait 30 days is here. As is the error message you just posted.
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Old Jun 27, 2014, 11:24 am
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Thanks for the tip. I did read and that is why I knew there is no need to wait. Also, updated the wiki w/the same info.

I was replying back to the person who said I was reading "wiki too literally"

Originally Posted by cdancer20
Just a tip...next time try reading the thread. Information about the recent change to no longer having to wait 30 days is here. As is the error message you just posted.
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