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This is the Serve thread. Post questions or information concerning other topics in the appropriate threads elsewhere in this forum.

For additional information on using prepaid debit cards, see PIN available now for Visa/MC prepaid debit cards.

Mentions of Softcard (formerly ISIS) are purely incidental to setting up and using Serve/Softcard. Softcard does not hold money, and you cannot load to it.


You cannot make an ACH pull from Serve. The direct deposit account and routing numbers are for deposits only.

https://www.serve.com/#/add-cash

If your card doesn't say "debit" on the front, it isn't a debit card.


Loads at 7-11 and CVS are cash only. Debit cards are NOT allowed.

Loads at Walmart have been confirmed with debit cards. Self checkout does not work for loading Serve. Many Walmart stores are enforcing a rule against the use of prepaid debit cards when loading, even though the register and the MCE do not enforce. Do not make your prepaid debit cards visible. Show them a bank debit card if asked, then discreetly use your prepaid card when asked to swipe. Otherwise, you may be asked by management to never visit the MC (Walmart Money Center) again to load.

Debit loading at Family Dollar appears to be limited to $500 per day per store total (not per person or per account). Whoever gets there first gets the load for the day. Troubleshooting loading problems at FD


Normal Serve
  • Serve loading via VR/MP or WM/FD load: $2,500/day and $5,000 total per calendar month
  • Online Debit Card Load - $200/day and $1,000/month (NOT a gift card with a PIN that some people call a "Debit card")
  • Online Credit Card Load - $200/day and $1,000/month
  • Checking/Savings Account - $2,000/month
  • Checks - $2,000/day and $10,000/month
  • ATM Withdrawals - $750/day and $2,000/month

You can combine the three methods above and load a total of $7k/month to a single Serve account for miles/points earning purposes, but beware that you're also subject to a $10,000/month add money limit which also includes check deposits, ACH transfers, and Serve transfers.

Serve/Softcard Check if your phone/network is compatible
  • Serve loading via VR/MP or WM/FD load: $2,500/day and $5,000 total per calendar month
  • Online Debit Card Load - $500/day and $1,500/month (NOT a gift card with a PIN that some people call a "Debit card")
  • Online Credit Card Load - $500/day and $1,500/month
  • Checking/Savings Account - $2,000/month
  • Checks - $2,000/day and $10,000/month
  • ATM Withdrawals - $750/day and $2,000/month

You can combine the three methods above and load a total of $8k/month to a single Serve account for miles/points earning purposes, but beware that you're also subject to a $10,000/month add money limit which also includes check deposits, ACH transfers, and Serve transfers.

The SD card in the iPhone case used for Softcard is account specific. Once an account has been registered to a card, it cannot be used for another.

Temp Serve
You can only load a maximum of $500/day, $1000/month on a temporary card. Once you get your permanent card, then you can load more. The initial $500 when you purchase the temp card doesn't count against the $5,000/month load limit.


Online Credit Card Loads
Only one card can be linked at a time.

As of 10/09/14, coding of credit card loads changed. In general, Mastercard and American Express cards post as before; see below for information on point earning. Visa cards transact as a cash advance and, therefore, require available CA limit; although most cards post as a purchase.

The Chase Ink Bold is a charge card and has no cash advance ability.

Treated as purchase, earns cashback/points/miles:
  • Bank of America (FIA) (MasterCard, American Express)
  • Barclaycard (Mastercard, Visa)
  • Capital One (Mastercard, Visa)
  • Chase (MasterCard, Visa)
  • Citi (MasterCard, American Express)
  • Discover

Treated as purchase, but doesn't earn points/miles:
  • American Express (May count toward minimum spend)

Posts as a cash advance:
For online CC/DC loads, the name on the Serve account is supposed to match the name of the primary or joint cardholder. So using someone else's CC/DB card to load a Serve account is not allowed.

Several people have reported no problems with loading with an AU card in the Serve account holder's name. Increase your chances by making sure the AUs social security number is on file with the Credit Card. YMMV.

When adding a new card you will usually need to call Serve Account security (1-800-555-4318) for verification of the new card on the second load try. This verification usually requires uploading of a photo of your ID and the credit card. You may pre-emptively avoid the error by going to the above website, logging in, and uploading a scan of a photo ID and the card you are trying to add. You may call back to expedite approval.


Online Debit Card Loads
For online debit load, only use of bank-issued cards is allowed. The use of pre-paid debit cards (Netspend, Paypower, Univision, Paypal*, etc.) and VGC/MGC/AGCs is not allowed. While initial transactions may work, your account will eventually be flagged.


Switching to Serve or Serve/Softcard
Helpful instruction post, latest. Thanks raeneye.

Also see this thread: Switching from Serve to BlueBird - 31 day wait???

Switching to Serve/Softcard
  1. Call up Bluebird or Serve and close account. Make sure your account is at $0.00 before calling. Just close it, don't ask for a temp Serve or anything. CSR will say account is now closed and you have 30 days to change your mind should you decide to re-open it.
  2. Download the Softcard mobile app from Apple App Store or Google Play Store. If you're an iPhone user you have to buy the NFC CashWrap case from your carrier store.
  3. Launch Softcard Mobile App and create Softcard account. You'll be asked if you want to open a Serve account; Yes you do. Start the registration through Softcard mobile app for a Serve account, once you are finished you will be told you will receive an Email from Amex with your account approval. I waited a few hours and called Serve customer service like the wiki says and completed the registration.
  4. Once I got off the phone with Serve I received an email from Serve where I verified my account and email; at this point Amex Serve is open.
  5. Launch Softcard Mobile app again click add new
  6. Activate card with Softcard and select Amex Serve. Follow the instructions & you're good to add. Once this is complete a Serve Card will populate in Softcard. Must activate physical card to get full load limits. Check account status and it automatically credits to your serve account based on who you signed up with. (Verizon - $25, T-Mobile - $50, AT&T - $30 (For AT&T: Get $15 w/activation. Earn additional $15 w/account replenishment))

Switching from BB to Serve
  1. Login to BB account, bring account balance to Zero, (By Bill Pay, Send money, etc..)
  2. Call BB, tell them that you want to open a serve account and close your current BB account. after they check everything they will say something like: "Your account will be permanently closed after 31 days, you can reopen it within 31 day if you change your mind, and you can apply for your new Serve account now, just make sure use the exact same register info from BB."
  3. at this point BB is closed. next morning, goto CVS and get a temporary Serve card (only with cash), load $500, ($2.95 waived, Yeah!!)
  4. get back home, register temporary Serve online, First error: "phone number already registered, please try a different number" could be the my BB's ghost account still showing up on their system, could be my info is not match my BB's registration? i'm not really sure at this point. What I did is keep the same number but change from Cell phone to home phone. and registration went through
  5. after the register and login, second error: "We're still processing your application. Please check your email for an update"
  6. I have see people on the thread reported waiting for weeks for the same message, So, I pickup the phone and called them, ask them to speed up the process.
  7. CSR, told me that my account went to "account security protection department" transfer me to them.
  8. at account security protection department, they told me need to call back on my phone number which I registered to verify.
  9. after the call back of verification, CSR told me that my new Serve account is active now, email address verification will be send with in 5 minutes, permanent card will be received within 7-10 days.
  10. CSR also told me the I can load and spend on the temporary card, but not bill pay.

The number to call to approve your registration after closing Bluebird: Serve Account security 1-800-555-4318



Loading with debit card at Walmart register
Loads at register over $500 will sometimes trigger ID requirement. There is a limit of four swipes per transaction; this means your card plus three payments.

Training a WM cashier:
  • If the WM cashier doesn't know how to load the card, advise them to enter "70" then press "action code".
  • If you are using a temp card that doesn't have your name on it, you can swipe the card from your side of the terminal. The WM rep never has to touch any of your cards. The screen will say "enter account." That is your prompt to slide the card.
  • The terminal will ask the WM employee if you are loading in multiples of $2000. Advise them to enter "no."
  • Avoid saying gift card. Always refer to your card as a debit card.

Error Messages:
DEBIT NOT AVAILABLE
Received when I used a card I thought I had activated but hadn't.

DEBIT NOT APPROVED
Received when the card's monthly load limit had been reached.

TENDER NOT ALLOWED
Card was incorrectly read, or wrong PIN entered.

HOST TIMEOUT
Connection problems. The GC may be drained but the transaction should reverse itself, and funds will become available again. Try again later.


Using Serve
For online bill pay
  • You can pay the credit card that you used to buy VRs/GCs
  • Error 1302 means that you have 1 pending payment the same amount as the one you just submitted. For example, 1000 bill pay to sapphire preferred from Friday and then on Saturday you submit another bill pay for 1000 to sapphire preferred, you will get this error.
  • Tip: if using online bill pay to the same place multiple times, vary your amounts by $0.01 to make it easier to track since your confirmation number does not match the tracking number on your credit card statement



For bank transfers
Under Settings --> Funding & Transfers --> Bank & Cards --> U.S. Bank Account, you can add your bank info and transfer funds from your Serve card directly to your bank. The bank account must be verified, either by the standard "deposit 2 small sums into your account, such as $0.23 & $0.42" method, or doing an "instant verification" by actually logging into your bank account while still logged into Serve.
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Old Apr 14, 2014, 3:31 pm
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Originally Posted by ivanchen
Has anyone succeed in reloading using debit, I tried 3 CVS , there cash only means real cash, I am gonna try some 711s, Anyone have successful experience?
In my hometown all the CVSs and 7-11 sell reloads, and we can use a CC or Debit Card..,no limit,

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Old Apr 14, 2014, 3:47 pm
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Originally Posted by ibleed0range
I don't think it is targeted. You get $50 for two $250+ DD before some date
The deal is good until June 30, 2014. Your 2nd DD must be dated on or before June 30, 2014. Bottom line is you have a ton of time between now and then to do the quick 2 DDs going and get the promotion.
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Old Apr 14, 2014, 5:44 pm
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Originally Posted by ericdabbs
The deal is good until June 30, 2014. Your 2nd DD must be dated on or before June 30, 2014. Bottom line is you have a ton of time between now and then to do the quick 2 DDs going and get the promotion.
Last month I did the DD via AP. Then I closed my Serve account and reopened a new one via ISIS. I was able to get another $50 DD credit for my new Serve account. WOOHOO :-:
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Old Apr 14, 2014, 7:38 pm
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Originally Posted by envoy245
Last month I did the DD via AP. Then I closed my Serve account and reopened a new one via ISIS. I was able to get another $50 DD credit for my new Serve account. WOOHOO :-:
Nice!!!!
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Old Apr 14, 2014, 8:46 pm
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Originally Posted by cdancer20
First cancel your existing Serve acct. It will automatically update in Isis. I got an email from Isis within 30 mins (or less) of closing my Serve acct.
Thanks cdancer. My situation was a bit complicated since I wanted to delink my serve card from Isis and then create a new one for my husband. I haven't cancelled my serve yet, waiting for all my $1 credits to hit first. for those that are wondering, serve CS can delink it for you. Although I have no idea why she told me to contact Isis support, who then told me that serve can do it. Just glad I got another account signed up for serve Isis. Sitting on 20k VRs that I'm in a hurry to unload via serve.
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Old Apr 14, 2014, 8:48 pm
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Originally Posted by cdancer20
Sweet. I been using my Isis wallet every once in a while at the vending machine of my job. They have a number of items $1.00-$1.65 so I can basically get a free item through Serve. Well today I got notification that I received a free item compliments of Isis up to $5. I was able to get 2 sodas. (Might have gotten 3 but I think it timed out on me.) Then after making the purchase that I intended to, I got notification of 3 more swipes until another free item. I am pretty sure that this is vending machine specific but if you are using Serve with Isis, it's worth looking for places that accept these and taking advantage of the $50. For instance, McDonalds, CVS...
You can go to Browse Offers on your Isis to see what other offers there are. We just do the JJ deal, love it! I wonder if they will extend it past the end of this month...
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Old Apr 15, 2014, 7:20 am
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Originally Posted by subdawg
Thanks cdancer. My situation was a bit complicated since I wanted to delink my serve card from Isis and then create a new one for my husband. I haven't cancelled my serve yet, waiting for all my $1 credits to hit first. for those that are wondering, serve CS can delink it for you. Although I have no idea why she told me to contact Isis support, who then told me that serve can do it. Just glad I got another account signed up for serve Isis. Sitting on 20k VRs that I'm in a hurry to unload via serve.
Did you actually get it to work? For everyone else in the thread that have tried, they were all told that you need a new sim card/Iphone case. The easiest way to do it is if your husband has the same phone company as you do, then get a new sim card/case from the store, pop it temporarily in your phone and go. Of course the easiest easiest way is to pop it into his phone if it's compatible. I tried to delink my phone number from my acct before so I could set up my boyfriend's Serve on my phone (before I got serve.) After 2 weeks, they still hadn't done iit and I finally gave up.
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Old Apr 15, 2014, 4:37 pm
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Has anyone tried recently to load money online to Serve from a Fidelity Amex credit card? I'm doing a trial myself, but would appreciate the data points to see how consistently the Fidelity Amex treats the Serve load as a points-earning purchase rather than a cash advance. I see that people have reported success in prior years.
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Old Apr 15, 2014, 4:41 pm
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Serve - Another Paypal/Amazon Payments.

I load with Fidelity Amex. Free cash back.
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Old Apr 15, 2014, 4:59 pm
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Originally Posted by cdancer20
Did you actually get it to work? For everyone else in the thread that have tried, they were all told that you need a new sim card/Iphone case. The easiest way to do it is if your husband has the same phone company as you do, then get a new sim card/case from the store, pop it temporarily in your phone and go. Of course the easiest easiest way is to pop it into his phone if it's compatible. I tried to delink my phone number from my acct before so I could set up my boyfriend's Serve on my phone (before I got serve.) After 2 weeks, they still hadn't done iit and I finally gave up.
Well, we have 2 Isis SIM cards that we pop in and out. The Isis wallet is tied to a SIM card, BUT the serve card was able to be delinked so I could ultimately sign up for a new serve. I don't think the serve card has to have the same name as the Isis wallet holder if that makes any sense.
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Old Apr 15, 2014, 6:17 pm
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Originally Posted by hubiehippo
Has anyone tried recently to load money online to Serve from a Fidelity Amex credit card? I'm doing a trial myself, but would appreciate the data points to see how consistently the Fidelity Amex treats the Serve load as a points-earning purchase rather than a cash advance. I see that people have reported success in prior years.
Originally Posted by CrediPig
I load with Fidelity Amex. Free cash back.
I can confirm that FIA AMEX works and pays out. ^
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Old Apr 15, 2014, 6:23 pm
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$20 Fid. Amex cashback vs. $22 Barclay travel - seems like a wash to me.
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Old Apr 15, 2014, 6:24 pm
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Originally Posted by silver4300
$20 Fid. Amex cashback vs. $22 Barclay travel - seems like a wash to me.
Was denied the Barclay Arrival
After I B* off that INQ, I'll try again. ^
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Old Apr 16, 2014, 6:15 am
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Originally Posted by subdawg
Well, we have 2 Isis SIM cards that we pop in and out. The Isis wallet is tied to a SIM card, BUT the serve card was able to be delinked so I could ultimately sign up for a new serve. I don't think the serve card has to have the same name as the Isis wallet holder if that makes any sense.
I'm still confused about what you were doing. Were you trying to open a 3rd Serve acct (i.e. an extra one in addition to the one you have and that your husband has.)?
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Old Apr 16, 2014, 6:27 am
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I see no reason to have Serve if you can't get VRs in order to load Serve. Discount Drug Mart was the last store in my area that allowed VRs to be bought with cc and now they stopped as of 4/15/14. Since I can't load Serve $5000/ month I will switch to Bluebird unless anyone has a way to load $5000 per month. I'm not interested in only loading $1000 or $1500 using cc or debit online.

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