Mar 16, 2014, 5:32 am
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This is ARCHIVE WEEK #1 (8 - 14 March UTC) of older posts from the original thread, MH 370 KUL-PEK Missing: now Search and Recovery [PLEASE SEE WIKI].
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MH 370 KUL-PEK Missing: 8 - 14 Mar 2014 UTC - ARCHIVE WEEK #1
Mar 8, 2014, 9:09 pm
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Ticket number: 784 - 099 *******
Ticket number: 784 - 100 *******
Not sure if the consecutive 4th to 6th digits in ticket number implies consecutive ticket numbers
Just realised that the original Chinese article shows ticket numbers as
票号：784-*******099 and
票号：784-*******100
So may be they are consecutive ticket numbers after all. although I would have thought that with check digits used in ticket numbers, airlines ticket numbers would not be consecutive even if two tickets issued one after the other.
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Mar 8, 2014, 9:11 pm
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The travel schedules of the Italian and Austrian passengers have been posted on a Chinese forum. Their overlapping connecting flight (KL898 PEK-AMS) and consecutive ticket numbers certainly add more suspicion to their roles in the MH370 incidient.
Italian passenger:
Mar 8, CZ748（MH370），00:35-6:30 KUL-PEK
Mar 8, CZ767（KL898），11:55-15:15 PEK-AMS
Mar 8, CZ7737 (KL1139），20:55-22:20 AMS-CPH，
Ticket Number：784-*******099
Austrian passenger：
Mar 8, CZ748（MH370），00:35-6:30 KUL-PEK
Mar 8, CZ767（KL898），11:55-15:15 PEK-AMS
Mar 8, CZ7689 (KL1775），21:05-22:25 AMS-FRA
Ticket Number：784-*******100
Source: http://bbs.feeyo.com/posts/555/topic-0011-5550079.html
Italian passenger:
Mar 8, CZ748（MH370），00:35-6:30 KUL-PEK
Mar 8, CZ767（KL898），11:55-15:15 PEK-AMS
Mar 8, CZ7737 (KL1139），20:55-22:20 AMS-CPH，
Ticket Number：784-*******099
Austrian passenger：
Mar 8, CZ748（MH370），00:35-6:30 KUL-PEK
Mar 8, CZ767（KL898），11:55-15:15 PEK-AMS
Mar 8, CZ7689 (KL1775），21:05-22:25 AMS-FRA
Ticket Number：784-*******100
Source: http://bbs.feeyo.com/posts/555/topic-0011-5550079.html
wow, really seems suspicious now
Given they are on CZ codeshare it is expected the next flight is on CZ.
Given they are travelling on European passports it is not a surprise that the next flight is to Europe.
AMS seems to be the only connecting CZ flight to Europe that day.
Mar 8, 2014, 9:11 pm
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I don't know. Actually it seems pretty striking to me that they would have consecutive ticket numbers but different destinations. The only way I can think of arranging that to happen is to purchase two tickets on the same record, and later split the PNR in order to change one of the destinations (but why bother doing that unless you're planning to get there?). I guess maybe if two people were sitting together and clicked "purchase" at the same time....? (CZ sells on the order of 1 ticket every second -- they have around 100 million passengers a year, but I don't know how that's counted.)
Mar 8, 2014, 9:12 pm
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Noted upstream, but more detail now....
AUSTIN, Texas (AP) — An Austin, Texas, technology company says 20 of its employees were aboard the Malaysia Airlines plane that went missing over the South China Sea.
Jacey Zuniga, a spokeswoman for Freescale Semiconductor, says 12 Malaysian and 8 Chinese employees are "confirmed passengers." She says no American citizen Freescale employees were on the flight.
Jacey Zuniga, a spokeswoman for Freescale Semiconductor, says 12 Malaysian and 8 Chinese employees are "confirmed passengers." She says no American citizen Freescale employees were on the flight.
Mar 8, 2014, 9:13 pm
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Exactly. That they choose AMS is not a surprise, although they'd probably do better with CDG as the Schengen POE if they weren't going to claim asylum/refugee status right away on arrival in Europe. Nice as Germany and Denmark are. Seems like they went for a deal and stuck to CZ to get to Europe.
Mar 8, 2014, 9:14 pm
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Mar 8, 2014, 9:19 pm
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I think your first question is highly unlikely.
There is nothing to suggest they wanted to bring down the plane as yet. The additional flights would have removed the requirement for a Chinese visa, if their intended destination was PEK - but leaving the airport with a 5 hour transit would also be suspicious to PRC immigration officials
If they wanted to travel to Europe, they would have needed to enter Schengen at AMS which presumably would be able to detect the stolen passports. Perhaps they had other flights scheduled out of PEK or AMS.
EDIT: asylum would also be a possibility as suggested by AlwaysFlyStar
There is nothing to suggest they wanted to bring down the plane as yet. The additional flights would have removed the requirement for a Chinese visa, if their intended destination was PEK - but leaving the airport with a 5 hour transit would also be suspicious to PRC immigration officials
If they wanted to travel to Europe, they would have needed to enter Schengen at AMS which presumably would be able to detect the stolen passports. Perhaps they had other flights scheduled out of PEK or AMS.
EDIT: asylum would also be a possibility as suggested by AlwaysFlyStar
Two had flights from AMS to other places in the EU: FRA and CPH.
Mar 8, 2014, 9:20 pm
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The low number of passengers booked on CZ codeshare makes it more likely that any 2 (conditional on being booked on CZ codeshare) have consecutive ticket numbers. These are issued on CZ ticket stock.
Mar 8, 2014, 9:23 pm
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Exactly. That they choose AMS is not a surprise, although they'd probably do better with CDG as the Schengen POE if they weren't going to claim asylum/refugee status right away on arrival in Europe. Nice as Germany and Denmark are. Seems like they went for a deal and stuck to CZ to get to Europe.
Mar 8, 2014, 9:24 pm
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It doesn't, absent the last one or two digits in the ticket number being consecutive too.
Mar 8, 2014, 9:24 pm
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Huh? Consecutive ticket numbers will happen if the tickets are bought consecutively across the entire airline's ticket sales.
Mar 8, 2014, 9:27 pm
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We are drifting into speculation territory again. Better to stay on topic.
Mar 8, 2014, 9:28 pm
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CNN headline
"Transportation minister: Malaysia has contacted counterterrorism organizations about possible passport issues related to Flight 370."
"Transportation minister: Malaysia has contacted counterterrorism organizations about possible passport issues related to Flight 370."
Mar 8, 2014, 9:28 pm
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This Austin firm had 20 people on the plane. So sad.
http://www.chron.com/news/texas/arti...ne-5300581.php
http://www.chron.com/news/texas/arti...ne-5300581.php
In my corporate time we had rules about that sort of thing when travelling.
Mar 8, 2014, 9:30 pm
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Kiwi Flyer is correct. Codeshare tickets are more likely to be queued for manual ticketing or batch auto-ticketing and done back-to-back by a liason desk that focuses on a certain codeshare partner.