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Old Mar 8, 2014, 6:27 am
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unless they find the pilot, this investigation may take years to conclude as can be seen with other similar incidents

This is everyones nightmare. Especially seeing as in this modern day with technology, and and excellent airline like malaysian airlines, that something like this could even possibly happen
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Old Mar 8, 2014, 6:28 am
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All I am saying is that it is unsettling that someone used the stolen passport of another person to get on the plane and that and the fact that the plane abruptly ended comms is unsettling. I make no other implications or conclusions.
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Old Mar 8, 2014, 6:29 am
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It will be years before we know what happened, and we may never know definitively what happened. See, e.g., the AF447 investigation and the more than 3 year span between the date of the accident and the issuance of the final report. http://www.bea.aero/docspa/2009/f-cp...p090601.en.pdf

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Under the ICAO treaty, the poster is quite correct. The accident investigation body of the nation of the aircraft manufacturer is a party to the investigation. Boeing will be brought in to assist the NTSB.
I would also be unsurprised to see the U.S. Navy involved in the investigation. There are only a handful of countries who have the technical resources and experience necessary to do the necessary search for black boxes and other debris at significant depth, and it is likely that the US has some of those resources either prepositioned relatively close to the South China Sea or can be flown to the area within a day.

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Old Mar 8, 2014, 6:29 am
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Well, they'll need the black box.
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Old Mar 8, 2014, 6:30 am
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Considering the shallow depths of the GoT I anticipate recovery of the wreckage won't be too tedious once located.


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I believe the 777 came into service in 1995 so it's been flying well for 9 years. I personally love this bird.
You left out a digit. 19 is clearly what you intended.

I've probably had more flights and miles on the 777 than any other a/c.
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Old Mar 8, 2014, 6:33 am
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Originally Posted by greg99
I would also be unsurprised to see the U.S. Navy involved in the investigation. There are only a handful of countries who have the technical resources and experience necessary to do the necessary search for black boxes and other debris at significant depth, and it is likely that the US has some of those resources either prepositioned relatively close to the South China Sea or can be flown to the area within a day.

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The average depth of Gulf of Thailand is only about 50m - divers should be able to reach the body.
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Old Mar 8, 2014, 6:34 am
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Originally Posted by Arabmoney
unless they find the pilot, this investigation may take years to conclude as can be seen with other similar incidents
I'm pretty sure he went down with the plane.

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I would also be unsurprised to see the U.S. Navy involved in the investigation. There are only a handful of countries who have the technical resources and experience necessary to do the necessary search for black boxes and other debris at significant depth, and it is likely that the US has some of those resources either prepositioned relatively close to the South China Sea or can be flown to the area within a day.

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According to wikipedia the GoT has a mean depth of 45m and max depth of 80m. This would strike me as not being too technically difficult but I am purely speculating.
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Old Mar 8, 2014, 6:40 am
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Sky News just reported that an Italian individual, Luigi Maraldi, who was supposed to be on this flight, is alive and well in Thailand on account of a false passport. Implying someone else on board may have used his passport. Sounds like silly sensationalist media to me.
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Old Mar 8, 2014, 6:40 am
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Most of us have flown on the 777s and have future plans to fly. I think this is hitting close to home for a lot of us. Let's try not to jump to conclusions until we have a few facts. I unfortunately am assuming the worse, but am holding out for survivors. Please let it be so!
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Old Mar 8, 2014, 6:41 am
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Originally Posted by AirD0c
Sky News just reported that an Italian individual, Luigi Maraldi, who was supposed to be on this flight, is alive and well in Thailand on account of a false passport. Implying someone else on board may have used his passport. Sounds like silly sensationalist media to me.
No, this has been confirmed. He had his passport stolen last year. Obviously someone was on the plane using his identity. Doesn't automatically mean terrorism, though. While morally wrong and technically illegal, I guess people use fake documents all the time for simply peaceful reasons, like wanting to visit friends and family in another country while their government refuses to give them a passport because of a previous conviction, for example.
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Old Mar 8, 2014, 6:42 am
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Just got word that 2 close colleagues of my brother in law have been on that plane.
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Old Mar 8, 2014, 6:44 am
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Originally Posted by Canuck2012
How can people do that in the age of electronic passports with security chips?
No idea, but I don't think this is unfrequent, as someone pointed.
Stolen passports is one of the business of criminal organizations, hence the person onboard might have been not the direct thief.
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Old Mar 8, 2014, 6:46 am
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Originally Posted by dsquared37
According to wikipedia the GoT has a mean depth of 45m and max depth of 80m. This would strike me as not being too technically difficult but I am purely speculating.
True and fair enough, but they're going to want to get every single piece of the debris, if they can, which will be a significant effort.

Plus, being crass, although the Vietnam and Malaysian governments will undoubtedly do everything they can to facilitate the investigation, if they can figure out a way for the US government to help carry some of the significant costs and other burdens of the recovery efforts, I suspect they would welcome it.

Most important, I think is that Boeing is going to want the Navy's help, just like they want the NTSB to be in the process as deep as possible to drive a prompt and fair investigation.

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Old Mar 8, 2014, 6:47 am
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Originally Posted by Plissken
Just got word that 2 close colleagues of my brother in law have been on that plane.
I hope the best for your BIL friends.
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Old Mar 8, 2014, 6:49 am
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I hope the best for your BIL friends.
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