Value for club floor?
#2
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How much are the Club amenities worth to you? Come up with a figure. Any incremental cost increase *less* than that figure represents a good value!
#3
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welcome to FT
in order to determine how reasonable the cost is, you have to have details on the benefits, as well as the costs/benefits of other properties in the area (both luxury and non luxury)
in order to determine how reasonable the cost is, you have to have details on the benefits, as well as the costs/benefits of other properties in the area (both luxury and non luxury)
#6
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Not only do I look at the bar/food amenities, I look at comfort. There are times when, not having a suite, I want to have a good comfortable place to relax. A Club Lounge often offers a zone of comfort, quiet and privacy. Hard to put a price on these amenities. Having said that, I am rarely disappointed when paying the premium for the Club Floor.
#7
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In my mind it depends on how much time you actually plan to spend at the hotel during your stay. If you are out and about during most of the day the club access is of less value. Sometimes I pay for club level and often I simply hope for and usually receive a upgrade through FHR. Also with an FHR reservation I am provided with a breakfast voucher which makes morning club access less of an issue.
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Welcome to Flyertalk. I may have a different perspective re: Club Floors.
Not only do I look at the bar/food amenities, I look at comfort. There are times when, not having a suite, I want to have a good comfortable place to relax. A Club Lounge often offers a zone of comfort, quiet and privacy. Hard to put a price on these amenities. Having said that, I am rarely disappointed when paying the premium for the Club Floor.
Not only do I look at the bar/food amenities, I look at comfort. There are times when, not having a suite, I want to have a good comfortable place to relax. A Club Lounge often offers a zone of comfort, quiet and privacy. Hard to put a price on these amenities. Having said that, I am rarely disappointed when paying the premium for the Club Floor.
On occasion we have had interesting conversations with other travelers who are also relaxing in the club lounge.
Another bonus
#9
Join Date: Apr 2007
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Welcome to Flyertalk. I may have a different perspective re: Club Floors.
Not only do I look at the bar/food amenities, I look at comfort. There are times when, not having a suite, I want to have a good comfortable place to relax. A Club Lounge often offers a zone of comfort, quiet and privacy. Hard to put a price on these amenities. Having said that, I am rarely disappointed when paying the premium for the Club Floor.
Not only do I look at the bar/food amenities, I look at comfort. There are times when, not having a suite, I want to have a good comfortable place to relax. A Club Lounge often offers a zone of comfort, quiet and privacy. Hard to put a price on these amenities. Having said that, I am rarely disappointed when paying the premium for the Club Floor.
In the RC Berlin club lounge they had free alcohol by the way, I don't know what types though (you are served) only drank beer.
#10
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There are lounges and lounges, though. Some are unbelievably poor, especially in four star hotels (I've seen some particularly poor Hilton lounges which I wouldn't have paid $20 for if it hadn't been included) and are basically nothing more than a place where you can get a (simple) breakfast and possibly a glass of rubbish wine at night.
The best lounges (and actually my favourite is IC LeGrand in Paris) will offer a good breakfast spread with cooked items, complimentary newspapers - including overseas ones, PC's with free internet access, and a decent food offering in the evening which is enough to keep you going. You also need more than enough chairs so everyone has enough privacy. The unlimited free champagne served at your seat that they have at the IC in Paris also helps.
If you are on business, I often find the lounge food offering (light breakfast, light evening snacks) is enough to keep me going and saves me from sitting alone in a restaurant or messing about with room service, or eating too much by attacking the full breakfast buffet downstairs. Lounge eating is good for those on diets!
Bottom line is that, if its not a hotel with a reputation for having a good lounge, then I am naturally suspicious and won't pay more than the value of the breakfast and a nominal sum for evening snacks. I then won't be disappointed if the lounge turns out to be a conversion of 2 guest bedrooms with only 10 chairs, the food is shrink-wrapped / microwave reheated / not hot at all, the drinks are limited to 2 bottles of wine per night on a "when its gone its gone basis" and there are no PC's, books or newspapers. Sadly about 80% of lounges fall into this category.
The renovated IC in London is charging £96 ($200) inc taxes per night for lounge access, unless you book a suite. At these sort of rates it is exceptionally difficult to justify the cost.
The best lounges (and actually my favourite is IC LeGrand in Paris) will offer a good breakfast spread with cooked items, complimentary newspapers - including overseas ones, PC's with free internet access, and a decent food offering in the evening which is enough to keep you going. You also need more than enough chairs so everyone has enough privacy. The unlimited free champagne served at your seat that they have at the IC in Paris also helps.
If you are on business, I often find the lounge food offering (light breakfast, light evening snacks) is enough to keep me going and saves me from sitting alone in a restaurant or messing about with room service, or eating too much by attacking the full breakfast buffet downstairs. Lounge eating is good for those on diets!
Bottom line is that, if its not a hotel with a reputation for having a good lounge, then I am naturally suspicious and won't pay more than the value of the breakfast and a nominal sum for evening snacks. I then won't be disappointed if the lounge turns out to be a conversion of 2 guest bedrooms with only 10 chairs, the food is shrink-wrapped / microwave reheated / not hot at all, the drinks are limited to 2 bottles of wine per night on a "when its gone its gone basis" and there are no PC's, books or newspapers. Sadly about 80% of lounges fall into this category.
The renovated IC in London is charging £96 ($200) inc taxes per night for lounge access, unless you book a suite. At these sort of rates it is exceptionally difficult to justify the cost.
#11
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I have a well documented love in this forum for Club Level floors at the best chains. As a matter of fact, I'm writing this from the RC Philadelphia club level .
RCs system-wide, the few FSs and other Asian clubs at lux hotels are usually worth it IMO. Mid-market or down market clubs? not worth it in that instance in most cases IMO.
RCs system-wide, the few FSs and other Asian clubs at lux hotels are usually worth it IMO. Mid-market or down market clubs? not worth it in that instance in most cases IMO.