NYC FS Penthouse Suite
Feb 12, 2007, 5:28 pm
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NYC FS Penthouse Suite
I got a sneak preview of the Penthouse Suite at the NYC FS. It was amazing. My only surprise was that the bed in the master br was not a king, but a queen. Views were breathtaking, bathrooms sumptous and the zen room relaxed me as soon as I stepped in. I won't be staying there anytime soon, but wanted to let those of you who will you will enjoy your time.
Feb 12, 2007, 5:32 pm
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the new $30K/night one? how many bedrooms does it have? each presidential used to have 1.
http://www.forbes.com/travel/2006/04..._0420feat.html
http://www.forbes.com/travel/2006/04...7featA_ls.html
Hotel President Wilson - $35K - 4BR (43K or 44K CHF)
Grand Resort Lagonissi - $34K - 3BR (25K or 26K EUR)
making it the 3rd suite over $30K
Several blocks south and east, at New York's Four Seasons Hotel, the two Presidential Suites, which were designed by I.M. Pei and go for $15,000 per night each, are about to be displaced by a premium, $30,000-per-night penthouse suite. The suite will have 20-foot ceilings, a dedicated personal assistant and a private spa with his-and-hers massage tables (treatments are extra).
Luxury suites "are certainly more evident today than they were ten years ago," says Brian Honan, the hotel's director of marketing. "The demand is there. In addition, it's a revenue center. A hotel lobby is a showpiece, but is it a business investment? That's the way we look at this penthouse. It's had extraordinary press and generated significant revenues for the hotel." And it won't even open until later this year.
Luxury suites "are certainly more evident today than they were ten years ago," says Brian Honan, the hotel's director of marketing. "The demand is there. In addition, it's a revenue center. A hotel lobby is a showpiece, but is it a business investment? That's the way we look at this penthouse. It's had extraordinary press and generated significant revenues for the hotel." And it won't even open until later this year.
http://www.forbes.com/travel/2006/04...7featA_ls.html
Hotel President Wilson - $35K - 4BR (43K or 44K CHF)
Grand Resort Lagonissi - $34K - 3BR (25K or 26K EUR)
making it the 3rd suite over $30K
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Feb 12, 2007, 6:03 pm
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2 bedrooms - one master, one other which was now set up as a gym (massage table, weights - amazing balcony) but he said was a 2nd br (maybe they convert according to needs); the Pei designed windows were in the master -not sure how much was intact from original Pei design. The carpets had a bit of "sparkle". The vertical, swivel flat screens were something to behold.
I was told (not by Ty) that this is the most expensive suite (I was told the world, but it could be the us)and that the NYC FS is the most profitable hotel in the world.
I looked at the Fortune article - the piano appears to be the same as in the photo, but the furniture has changed. I apologize for not taking photos and posting - I just didn't want to appear tacky!
I was told (not by Ty) that this is the most expensive suite (I was told the world, but it could be the us)and that the NYC FS is the most profitable hotel in the world.
I looked at the Fortune article - the piano appears to be the same as in the photo, but the furniture has changed. I apologize for not taking photos and posting - I just didn't want to appear tacky!
Feb 12, 2007, 7:43 pm
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Another detail I forgot to mention - the bathroom floors are heated. I once looked at buying a house with heated floors in a colder area of the US. In Houston, not that desirable 
Feb 12, 2007, 8:02 pm
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heated bathroom floors are really common in European hotels, or at least German ones
so theyve finally crossed the atlantic
edit - michael makes a good point about HVAC
so theyve finally crossed the atlantic
edit - michael makes a good point about HVAC
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Feb 13, 2007, 6:32 pm
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I always wondered why on earth they dont have heated bathroom floors in a lot of places in the US.
Its so great, especially in the morning.
Aside from that a lot of homes in germany are built with heating coming from/through the floor in all the rooms and not via air conditioning systems like in the US
Its so great, especially in the morning.
Aside from that a lot of homes in germany are built with heating coming from/through the floor in all the rooms and not via air conditioning systems like in the US
Feb 13, 2007, 10:55 pm
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The Hugh Heffner Sky Villa at The Palms in Las Vegas goes for $40k per night and I believe the King Pin Suite (has a two lane full size bowling lane en-suite) goes for $30k a night.....
Feb 14, 2007, 5:59 am
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i got the impression that those suites at the palms were priced more to keep them empty for casino reservations, like the mansion, except much higher. interestingly, some of the prices have gone down from when i last checked, and they seem to have mostly eliminated weekend rates.
http://www.architecturaldigest.com/h...article_072007
http://www.usatoday.com/travel/hotel...te-cover_N.htm
http://www.fourseasons.com/newyorkfs...penthouse.html
http://magazine.elitetraveler.com/el...070910/?pg=194
http://magazine.elitetraveler.com/el...8/?pg=132&pm=1
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/10/07/nyregion/07rooms.html
http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2...OOMS_PANO.html
http://wcbstv.com/seenon/four.season....2.835862.html
bedroom, living room, dining room, libary, spa, zen garden, breakfast room, 4 cantilever balconies, 1.5 bath
PA, trainer, on-call phantom/maybach, standing table at atelier
international calls & "TVs programmed for every channel worldwide"
http://www.fourseasons.com/newatfour...s_page_13.html
? Royal Penthouse @ Hotel President Wilson
? Bella Vista Suite & 3BR Geneva Suite @ Grand Hotel Kempinski Geneva
€28K 4BR Apartment @ Hotel de Charme Les Airelles
€27K 2BR Royal Villa @ Grand Resort Lagonissi
€26K 4BR Riad d'Honneur (Royal Suite) @ Le Royal Mansour
$35K 1BR Ty Warner Penthouse @ Four Seasons New York (i think it went up to $40K)
http://www.architecturaldigest.com/h...article_072007
http://www.usatoday.com/travel/hotel...te-cover_N.htm
http://www.fourseasons.com/newyorkfs...penthouse.html
http://magazine.elitetraveler.com/el...070910/?pg=194
http://magazine.elitetraveler.com/el...8/?pg=132&pm=1
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/10/07/nyregion/07rooms.html
http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2...OOMS_PANO.html
http://wcbstv.com/seenon/four.season....2.835862.html
bedroom, living room, dining room, libary, spa, zen garden, breakfast room, 4 cantilever balconies, 1.5 bath
PA, trainer, on-call phantom/maybach, standing table at atelier
international calls & "TVs programmed for every channel worldwide"
http://www.fourseasons.com/newatfour...s_page_13.html
Remember how you felt when you first visited New York City? It was love at first sight, and now it’s even better. Atop Four Seasons Hotel New York, the Ty Warner Penthouse intensifies your already deep relationship with the city.
The seven-year, $50-million project is the manifestation of the combined vision of hotel owner Ty Warner and architects Peter Marino and I.M. Pei. Its four glass balconies look out over all of Manhattan, capturing a perspective of the skyline that has never been experienced before. Each detail of the distinctive design aesthetic is meticulously brought to life. The rich caramel wall panels were assembled in Italy, deconstructed and sent to France for a rich lacquer finish by French artisans before arriving in New York. With special touches like these, the penthouse is justifiably priced at $30,000 per night.
Penthouse guests are romanced further with unlimited use of a chauffeured Rolls Royce or Maybach, a 24-hour-a-day personal assistant, a personal trainer and full spa treatments to be enjoyed in the suite’s own spa and fitness room.
The seven-year, $50-million project is the manifestation of the combined vision of hotel owner Ty Warner and architects Peter Marino and I.M. Pei. Its four glass balconies look out over all of Manhattan, capturing a perspective of the skyline that has never been experienced before. Each detail of the distinctive design aesthetic is meticulously brought to life. The rich caramel wall panels were assembled in Italy, deconstructed and sent to France for a rich lacquer finish by French artisans before arriving in New York. With special touches like these, the penthouse is justifiably priced at $30,000 per night.
Penthouse guests are romanced further with unlimited use of a chauffeured Rolls Royce or Maybach, a 24-hour-a-day personal assistant, a personal trainer and full spa treatments to be enjoyed in the suite’s own spa and fitness room.
? Bella Vista Suite & 3BR Geneva Suite @ Grand Hotel Kempinski Geneva
€28K 4BR Apartment @ Hotel de Charme Les Airelles
€27K 2BR Royal Villa @ Grand Resort Lagonissi
€26K 4BR Riad d'Honneur (Royal Suite) @ Le Royal Mansour
$35K 1BR Ty Warner Penthouse @ Four Seasons New York (i think it went up to $40K)
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Apr 30, 2010, 12:26 am
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speaking of most expensive...
http://www.sixsenses.com/E-brochure/...tart-here.html
http://www.sixsenses.com/E-brochure/...s/r&r_ebro.pdf
page 125 mentions a private island villa at soneva kiri
13BR 75K ft2 built up on 15 acres $38MM
private beach reserve is $12K
(4BR 13K ft2 built up on 1 acre $5MM)
http://clairebrownrealty.com/reports...20dec%2008.pdf
other private islands >
$53K+ 14BR necker
$37K+ 12BR musha cay
http://www.sixsenses.com/E-brochure/...tart-here.html
http://www.sixsenses.com/E-brochure/...s/r&r_ebro.pdf
page 125 mentions a private island villa at soneva kiri
13BR 75K ft2 built up on 15 acres $38MM
private beach reserve is $12K
(4BR 13K ft2 built up on 1 acre $5MM)
http://clairebrownrealty.com/reports...20dec%2008.pdf
other private islands >
$53K+ 14BR necker
$37K+ 12BR musha cay
Jun 16, 2010, 4:08 pm
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new article and pictures - http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1000...593546414.html
25% x 365 > 91.25 x $35K = $3.2MM ... vs $50MM (plus maintenance and inclusions)
ah, does that figure include initial finishing.. if so most of that should not be included when discussing the actual cost of the suite itself.
A Room With a View, and a Price
Room service...is included in the price and nearly unlimited (though one guest was charged for a $1,000 order of caviar).
occupied about 25% of the year...guests are usually billionaire businessmen traveling with their significant others
big parties such as weddings and corporate events are not allowed. The hotel limits the number of people in the room to about 10 at one time to reduce wear and tear.
The hotel keeps files on all return guests detailing their habits and favorite food, drink and even toilet paper...If the guest is coming to the hotel for the first time...Employees also scour the Internet for clues
Room service...is included in the price and nearly unlimited (though one guest was charged for a $1,000 order of caviar).
occupied about 25% of the year...guests are usually billionaire businessmen traveling with their significant others
big parties such as weddings and corporate events are not allowed. The hotel limits the number of people in the room to about 10 at one time to reduce wear and tear.
The hotel keeps files on all return guests detailing their habits and favorite food, drink and even toilet paper...If the guest is coming to the hotel for the first time...Employees also scour the Internet for clues
(plus maintenance and inclusions)ah, does that figure include initial finishing.. if so most of that should not be included when discussing the actual cost of the suite itself.
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Jun 16, 2010, 5:39 pm
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I am not saying you are wrong, but it seems that some of the info is likely questionalbe......"most expensive suite"......"most profitable hotel". Isn't this one of the hotels that Ty had such a hard time refinancing? I know that does not mean that it is not profitable, but it begs the question.
Jun 16, 2010, 9:01 pm
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note the date - Feb 12, 07
and while average margins are indeed low, and numbers i just ran for penthouse ROI are painful, when margins are usually really low, the "higher" ones are still low..
FS NY http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/12825739-post12.html
FS GV http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/luxur...l#post13542264
more on FS NY
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/12298559-post34.html
"most profitable" is actually likely to suggest less spending on guests. which in context of FSNY, would explain negative reports esp recently.
this is interesting considering article
re bed - FS site says king with Hästens Vividus mattress
and while average margins are indeed low, and numbers i just ran for penthouse ROI are painful, when margins are usually really low, the "higher" ones are still low..
FS NY http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/12825739-post12.html
FS GV http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/luxur...l#post13542264
more on FS NY
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/12298559-post34.html
"most profitable" is actually likely to suggest less spending on guests. which in context of FSNY, would explain negative reports esp recently.
this is interesting considering article
re bed - FS site says king with Hästens Vividus mattress
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Jun 17, 2010, 9:24 am
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OK, let's get this right. At FS NY there is one Ty Warner Suite @ US$35,000 a night. It is a 1-bedroom suite at the very top of the tower with, most decidedly, a kingsize bed. The room rate includes access to a limo 24/7 and everything (including caviar) in the mini-bar, plus, plus plus. No groups or corporate events allowed, due to the precious nature of the furnishings and fabrics. I have seen it so can vouchsafe for the details.
Then we have the Royal Suite, circa US$14,000, which I have stayed in. It is vast, with 2-3 bedrooms and no, the beds are not Queens - they are Kings. I find it a bit awkward to negotiate as there are lots of smallish rooms linked together.
Then we have the 2 Presidential Suites (US$18,000). I have stayed in #5101, and yes, the bed was a proper Kingsize. This for me is a much better option than the Royal as it is a very well laid-out suite, with astounding views from 3 sides, especially from the breakfast table.
OK?
Then we have the Royal Suite, circa US$14,000, which I have stayed in. It is vast, with 2-3 bedrooms and no, the beds are not Queens - they are Kings. I find it a bit awkward to negotiate as there are lots of smallish rooms linked together.
Then we have the 2 Presidential Suites (US$18,000). I have stayed in #5101, and yes, the bed was a proper Kingsize. This for me is a much better option than the Royal as it is a very well laid-out suite, with astounding views from 3 sides, especially from the breakfast table.
OK?